Who's on Netherlands "To Advance"?

[JogoBonito]

Im a diehard Brazil fan and im backing Brazil 200% on this game cause im positive theyll advance but I really really dont understand why every1 that is backing Netherlands is saying that netherlands is a better team than Brazil. That is just not true and if you are backing Netherlands, either you hate brazil, either you want to take a risk cause the ML is tempting or you are a diehard fan of Netherlands. Cause if you are betting on Netherlands because they are a better team than Brazil, thats 100% false. You CANNOT compare their individual preformance this year on their european teams and say that cause they did better and they were key factors on their teams, that theyll do the same on the national team. If their potential quality each of them have is giving you hope, then I think you havent been watching up closely their last matches.

And every1 that tells me that Robben will make a difference, ill just be quiet and wait until the end of the match and say: I told you so. Hes going to shrink against Brazil. Hell end up injured or substitued on 2nd half. Van der Vaart has better chances creating difficulties for Brazil.

[sportfan]

I like Brazil , more completed team. The Netherlands have good offensive line but there game plan sux , they like sitting back on there weak defense and waiting for some counter attacks , there last game vs much weaker Slovakia could have been a different result if Sovakia knew how to finish them chances

[Goat Milk]

Im a diehard Brazil fan and im backing Brazil 200% on this game cause im positive theyll advance but I really really dont understand why every1 that is backing Netherlands is saying that netherlands is a better team than Brazil. That is just not true and if you are backing Netherlands, either you hate brazil, either you want to take a risk cause the ML is tempting or you are a diehard fan of Netherlands. Cause if you are betting on Netherlands because they are a better team than Brazil, thats 100% false. You CANNOT compare their individual preformance this year on their european teams and say that cause they did better and they were key factors on their teams, that theyll do the same on the national team. If their potential quality each of them have is giving you hope, then I think you havent been watching up closely their last matches. And every1 that tells me that Robben will make a difference, ill just be quiet and wait until the end of the match and say: I told you so. Hes going to shrink against Brazil. Hell end up injured or substitued on 2nd half. Van der Vaart has better chances creating difficulties for Brazil.

Robben is going to shrink against Bastos and Alves?

If Brazil doesn't get out to a 1 goal lead in this game they are in big trouble because I know for a fact Dunga will come down hard on his guys going into half and they will get very down on themselves.

will Fabiano show up on Friday?

[lakerboy]

Robben is going to shrink against Bastos and Alves?

If Brazil doesn't get out to a 1 goal lead in this game they are in big trouble because I know for a fact Dunga will come down hard on his guys going into half and they will get very down on themselves.

will Fabiano show up on Friday?

Goat its pretty obvious you want Brazil and Germany out and Spain to advance. No reason to bet against Brazil here. The dutch dont have the pedigree and you will see that. The brazilians wont sit back like they did v chile. Are you gonna take up my offer of the Dutch on the ML at pinny odds? I do think the Dutch can score a goal in the match but that wont mean much when they allow 2 or 3.

[StraitShooter]

agree with LB here. Dutch overmatched here. Add Brazilian juju and its curtains

Whatever heppened to rudd van nistelroy, did he get old?

[Goat Milk]

LB you said you'll give me Pinny 90 min ML for Dutch to advance. I will take it. Of course I want Spain. I have $50 on them winning the cup at like +480 or some shit.

I don't like Germany and don't reallycare if Brazil or Netherlands advances. But don't think that Brazil's D can stop the dutch attack and same with Neth D and Brazil attack. This will be an offensive oriented game.

[lakerboy]

LB you said you'll give me Pinny 90 min ML for Dutch to advance. I will take it. Of course I want Spain. I have $50 on them winning the cup at like +480 or some shit.

I don't like Germany and don't reallycare if Brazil or Netherlands advances. But don't think that Brazil's D can stop the dutch attack and same with Neth D and Brazil attack. This will be an offensive oriented game.

Pinny odds for the dutch 90 min ML right now is +349. Go ahead you can take up to 300 points. The dutch have to win in 90 minutes. Any other result and you lose.


This offer is only for my buddy goat milk.

[nobull]

brazil all the way to win it all baby!!!!! no brainer here, don't waste your neurons debating. just slam the green & gold from here on out.

[Goat Milk]

Pinny odds for the dutch 90 min ML right now is +349. Go ahead you can take up to 300 points. The dutch have to win in 90 minutes. Any other result and you lose. This offer is only for my buddy goat milk.

lol you told me you'd gimme it to advance. Fukk that the Dutch are not winning in reg. time.

[Goat Milk]

Netherlands is +1150 winning in Extra Time. Wanna do that bet? You can lower the odds obviously I don't mind

[mtneer1212]

Brazil in a high scoring match

[wikkidinsane]

Netherlands 2-1

[HoulihansTX]

I love SBR. What a discussion going on in this forum...

I really think our Soccer Handicapping branch is much more mature than any other sport.


Thanks for the great input fellas. Keep it up.

[Pauulzcappin]

Brazil doesn't matchup well against Netherlands as they did with Chile, but they are probably gonna advance, so

[maquina]

Brazil to advaance

[Pauulzcappin]

I'll go even deeper here.

The biggest matchup on this game is Robben versus Michel Bastos.

Bastos plays as an offensive midfielder on Lyon, means that even though he started his career as a defender, he has been playing on a position that doesn't give him any defensive obligations.

If Robben can take advantage of that matchup, Netherlands has a chance, if not it's a done deal.

Also I'm pretty sure Dunga will set a def. midfielder there to help Bastos.

[zlate22]

netherland wins 1-0

[lasker]

Brazil to win 2-0

[ararat2010]

Brazil will win anyway ))))

[jimbob03]

ive got Netherlands to win the whole thing

[Naz18]

Robinho wanted to leave Man Citeh. Kaka was on a new team that has a recent history of under preforming in the Champions League. There was only one reason Brazil crashed out to France in WC2006: Zidane. There's no player on Holland anywhere near his standard of play. Unproven Players of Brazil? I'm sorry but that's a joke right?

This Brazilian squad is kinda unproven compared to the past 2-3 WC squads.

Regardless I don't see the Netherlands winning this one....at least in 90 minutes.

[atval]

i think netherlands will advance.

[Sforz]

im backing netherlands, but guess my fear is they give up an early one, and try to chase the game. Then i could really see a brazil 3-0, 3-1 win.. but i think if it stays close, netherlands have a shot... i think they will defi have to keep possession if they want to win, would also be nice if RVP showed up to actually play and not just take up space.

[Dark Horse]

Brazil is not nearly as good as people think. Holland needs to punch them in the mouth right away, because this Brazilian team has a high fluff factor. There's a vast gap between what they have actually shown (very little) and the huge public backing. The game is a toss up, so the value is with Holland. The luckiest team will win; no luck, no cup. And there are a few games where luck is crucial. This is one of them. So is the final.

[juuso]

Taking a large bet on holland +0.5.

Will see how it goes...

[Dark Horse]

Just in. Inside info. Not in press yet. The Dutch just made a crucial mistake. That is, if you agree that one of the main keys to winning a tournament is the process of team building. I already was astounded that they brought in the wives and girlfriends of the players after the last game. This stage of the tournament is war; life or death, cut throat war. Apparently, these women decided to pick up on that -in the wrong way-, by instigating a huge quarrel between themselves.

This may seem like a funny detail, but these type of absurd distractions are so detrimental to a team truly focusing and gelling, that I don't think Holland could possibly make a step forward and come closer to peaking in the upcoming game. Starting to lean Brazil...

[lockwoot]

Just in. Inside info. Not in press yet. The Dutch just made a crucial mistake. That is, if you agree that one of the main keys to winning a tournament is the process of team building. I already was astounded that they brought in the wives and girlfriends of the players after the last game. This stage of the tournament is war; life or death, cut throat war. Apparently, these women decided to pick up on that -in the wrong way-, by instigating a huge quarrel between themselves.

This may seem like a funny detail, but these type of absurd distractions are so detrimental to a team truly focusing and gelling, that I don't think Holland could possibly make a step forward and come closer to peaking in the upcoming game. Starting to lean Brazil...

meh .... this could fall both ways in the the European championships van Basten allowed their families to sit almost front row and from match 1 and the world saw how they played . Only a thing that got the dutch destroyed then is : Hiddinks tactical brain >>>>>>>>> van Basten .
Also im really interested in seeing how mMaicon will cope with running around with the duracell energy bunny that is Dirk Kuyt for 60-70 minutes and the last 20 minutes versus a fresh a pacy Elia. Besides i'm hoping that van Marwijk lets Sneijder play for 70 minutes and then bring on van der Vaart on to play behind the striker.

[Dark Horse]

Referee will be from Japan. Linesmen are from Japan and South Korea. Need to look into those to see how they interpret offside.

[Checkerboard]

Just in. Inside info. Not in press yet. The Dutch just made a crucial mistake. That is, if you agree that one of the main keys to winning a tournament is the process of team building. I already was astounded that they brought in the wives and girlfriends of the players after the last game. This stage of the tournament is war; life or death, cut throat war. Apparently, these women decided to pick up on that -in the wrong way-, by instigating a huge quarrel between themselves.

This may seem like a funny detail, but these type of absurd distractions are so detrimental to a team truly focusing and gelling, that I don't think Holland could possibly make a step forward and come closer to peaking in the upcoming game. Starting to lean Brazil...

orange fluff factor

[Checkerboard]

Referee will be from Japan. Linesmen are from Japan and South Korea. Need to look into those to see how they interpret offside.

Thanks for the research DH will watch for update good stuff

[Josu]

Netherlands will own Brazil. Brazil sucks and is waaaaay overrated. People who believe they're good just remember what they saw 12+ years ago and just think nothing ever changes.

[Flying Dutchman]

Go Dutch guys!!!!!

[Karayilan9]

France has historically owned brazil (1998/1986/2010) . Brazils team in style is very similar to the one they brought to USA 94. They are happy to win 1-0. That 94 team had Dunga as captain and played the same shitty boring game this one does. They also had defenders like Marcio Santos and Aldair that were average but got the job done. The dutch have some great talents and will give brazil some problems for sure but they better amp their game up to beat Brazil. As for Brazil haivng problems with european teams i see they have only lost to france and italy in a world cup elimination game since 1978 and won or drew every other one of the 13 games including 2 versus holland.

Brazil has a good record against the Dutch, last loss was 1974, since then they haven't lost to them and knocked them out in the big competitions.

People should stop focusing on what Van Persie or Sneijder will do, the key players for the Dutch is De Jong and Van Bronchorst, De jong will need to have the game of his life to disrupt the Brazil attacks and counter attacks, if they pour through the defensive midfield like teams have done so far that back line won't hold out for long. Also alot of talk about Robben vs Bastos but nobody talking about Maicon vs Van Bronchorst, Bronchorst is one of the teams weak links and could get exploited.

The Dutch defense could cost them the game. They can't hold the back line in shape, there is poor organization and discipline in the ranks, central defenders pull out leaving gaping holes, the wingers have left in limbo a few times. The chances they gave Slovakia were basic mistakes that a team of Brazil's caliber would punish, you can't give 3-4 one on one sitters inside your box at this level.

Brazil to qualify without breaking much of a sweat, time for the traditional Oranje meltdown.

[Socrates]

I want to believe they can do. They're definitely quality, but I think Brazil will probably cruise.

[DeluxeLiner]

Brazil has a good record against the Dutch, last loss was 1974, since then they haven't lost to them and knocked them out in the big competitions.

People should stop focusing on what Van Persie or Sneijder will do, the key players for the Dutch is De Jong and Van Bronchorst, De jong will need to have the game of his life to disrupt the Brazil attacks and counter attacks, if they pour through the defensive midfield like teams have done so far that back line won't hold out for long. Also alot of talk about Robben vs Bastos but nobody talking about Maicon vs Van Bronchorst, Bronchorst is one of the teams weak links and could get exploited.

The Dutch defense could cost them the game. They can't hold the back line in shape, there is poor organization and discipline in the ranks, central defenders pull out leaving gaping holes, the wingers have left in limbo a few times. The chances they gave Slovakia were basic mistakes that a team of Brazil's caliber would punish, you can't give 3-4 one on one sitters inside your box at this level.

Brazil to qualify without breaking much of a sweat, time for the traditional Oranje meltdown.

How does what happened in 1974 pertain to what is happening in 2010?