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  • Fishhead
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    • 08-11-05
    • 40184

    #211
    Like the OVER 2.5
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    • Goat Milk
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      • 03-24-10
      • 25850

      #212
      Originally posted by TurkzZ

      ummm no, i think they will play to the counter attack, Holland wont sit back and Brazil are best while countering so im pretty sure they will adopt such a tactic
      ok I agree here. The main thing for Brazil is that Maicon and Bastos cannot get caught trying to be hero's and playing as forwards. The Dutch will burn them in transition. Dunga needs to be very disciplined going into this game.
      Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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      • TurkzZ
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        • 01-07-09
        • 4095

        #213
        Originally posted by Goat Milk

        ok I agree here. The main thing for Brazil is that Maicon and Bastos cannot get caught trying to be hero's and playing as forwards. The Dutch will burn them in transition. Dunga needs to be very disciplined going into this game.
        also it be wise to consider that Holland are also playing more defensive then previous world cups, could be quite a stale made seeing that the Dunga Brazil 4-2-2-2 which pretty much is a 4-2-3-1 will match;s Holland's 4-2-3-1 which can possibly results in a stalemate, but lets forget that and hope for a good game of football, this competition needs a classic match or two like the same fixture in 94
        Forward points to Karayilan, i am unable to receive SBR points
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        • sportfan
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 12-22-09
          • 10111

          #214
          cant wait , no matter what.. I'm backing Brazil tomorrow .
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          • carbonero77
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            • 01-19-10
            • 327

            #215
            Brazil is the NBA of soccer.---
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            • MyLuck888
              SBR Hustler
              • 06-09-10
              • 84

              #216
              I got to go with Brazil as well, they look unstoppable
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              • EmpireMaker
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                • 06-18-09
                • 15601

                #217
                Brazil wins at will !!!!
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                • sportfan
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                  • 12-22-09
                  • 10111

                  #218
                  Originally posted by carbonero77
                  Brazil is the NBA of soccer.---
                  Brazil is Lakers in nba
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                  • Winnipeg Jets
                    SBR MVP
                    • 05-16-09
                    • 1723

                    #219
                    another dumb question. if you play the 120 minutes wager and the game doesnt go past regulation...you still win?
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                    • gohabsgo
                      SBR MVP
                      • 03-19-10
                      • 1903

                      #220
                      I'm on Brazil to advance, safest bet for that game IMO
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                      • HoulihansTX
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                        • 02-12-09
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                        #221
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                        • Augustus
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                          • 09-05-06
                          • 2787

                          #222
                          Originally posted by Fishhead
                          Like the OVER 2.5
                          Over 2 -122 @ Pinnacle
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                          • Fishhead
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                            • 08-11-05
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                            #223
                            Originally posted by Augustus
                            Over 2 -122 @ Pinnacle


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                            • mav924
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 12-06-09
                              • 718

                              #224
                              Over 2 sounds like the safer bet
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                              • Tommy_de1st
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 02-23-10
                                • 8397

                                #225
                                Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                Total misconception. They are 12-0-0 in competitive games under Van Marwijk. And they beat Ghana in a friendly just before the WC by a 4-1 score. You know, another quarter finalist... Holland just need to play a solid game. This is an average Brazil team. Nothing like the wonder team with Pele, Jairzinho, and Rivelinho. But people almost blindly lift that magic to this team, even though this Brazil has shown very little. If Holland fires on all cylinders, as in the Ghana game, the bookmakers are going to have a very nice day.
                                DH, I know what you mean and I don't think Brazil have the best team ever. You say it's average. I say it's a bit more than average and I rate Holland's team as less than average. Who's gonna score for Dutch? Van Persi is a crying baby looking for a free kick or penalty. If Brazil handle Roben, Sneider and Kuyt - the striking Holland power, they will be safe
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                                • Fishhead
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                                  • 08-11-05
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                                  #226
                                  Holland is a very efficient offensive club.........would not surprise me to see them win this affair.

                                  They are a LIVE dog for sure.
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                                  • d1m@
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                                    • 03-27-10
                                    • 275

                                    #227
                                    brazil will win , and final will be brazil vs argentina
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                                    • Dark Horse
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                                      • 12-14-05
                                      • 13764

                                      #228
                                      Originally posted by Tommy_de1st
                                      DH, I know what you mean and I don't think Brazil have the best team ever. You say it's average. I say it's a bit more than average and I rate Holland's team as less than average. Who's gonna score for Dutch? Van Persi is a crying baby looking for a free kick or penalty. If Brazil handle Roben, Sneider and Kuyt - the striking Holland power, they will be safe
                                      Van Persie as striker is a mistake. Huntelaar is a natural striker. Before he moved to Milan he did at Ajax what Uruguay striker Suarez has been doing since. But Huntelaar can come in later, as a fresh substitute against tired defenders.

                                      As I said in another thread, remember that almost these same Dutch players beat WC finalists France and Italy by three goals each just two years ago. Just because they play a different style that doesn't mean they forgot how to punish top teams.

                                      I think Van Persie and Robben should be on the wings, with Kuijt or Huntelaar at striker. That will keep the field wide, spread out the Brazil defense, and give Holland two dangerous wings for counter attacks. Of course, Holland has Elia as well for the left wing, if more fresh blood is needed.

                                      When Robben makes his signature move, another player should go into the space behind him, for an easy cross (the only player who did this once against Slovakia was Van Bommel, but it should really be Van Der Wiel). It is important to get crosses in from the backline, from both wings. This is much easier with Van Persie on the left. Without such crosses the defense can always see everything develop in front of it. This is easy defending. But when crosses come in from the backline, that means that when they face the ball, they can't see what happens to their side or behind them.

                                      Also, the Dutch defense got a warning against Slovakia, when Van Der Wiel twice forget to step up to trigger the offside trap. This resulted in two big opportunities for Slovakia through the center of the defense, but they were not the problem. (Ruud Gullit still doesn't realize this, on ESPN). Brazil will undoubtedly try to get scoring opportunities by having players just on or offside, so this element of the defense has to click perfectly (or not be used at all).
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                                      • Fishhead
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                                        • 08-11-05
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                                        #229
                                        Is Rope playing?
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                                        • AceKingHigh
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                                          • 10-23-09
                                          • 3888

                                          #230
                                          Brazil to win!!
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                                          • BetWeather
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 06-30-10
                                            • 796

                                            #231
                                            Nethelands - Oh hell yes! 4 to1 - Daddy needs news shoes!

                                            Samba dance masters - way over rated.
                                            You have to have heart to win football games at the top level.

                                            Robinho and company will lay down and play dead.

                                            Then they will blame it on the pitch, the weather and the officials !!!
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                                            • TurkzZ
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 01-07-09
                                              • 4095

                                              #232
                                              Originally posted by BetWeather
                                              Samba dance masters - way over rated.
                                              You have to have heart to win football games at the top level.

                                              Robinho and company will lay down and play dead.

                                              Then they will blame it on the pitch, the weather and the officials !!!
                                              you going to back up your statement with any facts?
                                              Forward points to Karayilan, i am unable to receive SBR points
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                                              • English Bloke
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 12-04-08
                                                • 128

                                                #233
                                                It's a team game and the way Brazil move through the gears both when they have possession offensively and when they are defending as a unit, they seem better than any other team I have seen at the WC bar Spain. The Dutch can keep possession, but it takes a lot longer for them to wind up and create some decent or half-chances. Brazil seem to hunt in packs whether they are trying to get the ball back or whether tey are trying to score. Offensively the Brazillians have almost any one in the team capable of scoring where by the Dutch have 3 or 4 likely candidates. Van Persie seems off the pace and I'd rather see Huntelaar leading the line.

                                                The Dutch will test Brazil better than anyone else has so far, but I think they will just about pass that test.

                                                A low scoring game. I'm liking either 1-0 or 2-0 to Brazil.
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                                                • DolphinSpurs
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 12-07-09
                                                  • 576

                                                  #234
                                                  Over 1st half
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                                                  • HoulihansTX
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                                                    • 02-12-09
                                                    • 30566

                                                    #235
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                                                    • wikkidinsane
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                                                      • 05-30-10
                                                      • 13800

                                                      #236
                                                      Originally posted by Winnipeg Jets
                                                      another dumb question. if you play the 120 minutes wager and the game doesnt go past regulation...you still win?
                                                      yes you still win
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                                                      • RubberKettle
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 12-28-09
                                                        • 6421

                                                        #237
                                                        Mathijsen is out
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                                                        • Dark Horse
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                                                          • 12-14-05
                                                          • 13764

                                                          #238
                                                          Ooijer in for Mathijsen is terrible for the Dutch. Ooijer was the main reason why they lost to Russia in extra time at the Euro. The central defense is much weaker now.
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                                                          • Slim
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                                                            • 11-13-08
                                                            • 4722

                                                            #239
                                                            I hope the Dutch win so Dunga can get blasted for not having Ronaldhino.
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                                                            • HoulihansTX
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                                                              • 02-12-09
                                                              • 30566

                                                              #240
                                                              Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                                              Ooijer in for Mathijsen is terrible for the Dutch. Ooijer was the main reason why they lost to Russia in extra time at the Euro. The central defense is much weaker now.
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                                                              • Mac4Lyfe
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 01-04-09
                                                                • 48806

                                                                #241
                                                                Nederlands for me...
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                                                                • wikkidinsane
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                                                                  • 05-30-10
                                                                  • 13800

                                                                  #242
                                                                  Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                                                  Ooijer in for Mathijsen is terrible for the Dutch. Ooijer was the main reason why they lost to Russia in extra time at the Euro. The central defense is much weaker now.

                                                                  lol
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                                                                  • lakerboy
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                                                                    • 04-02-09
                                                                    • 94463

                                                                    #243
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                                                                    • Goat Milk
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                                                                      • 03-24-10
                                                                      • 25850

                                                                      #244
                                                                      Originally posted by Goat Milk
                                                                      Robinho is Brazil's main threat here, no one on the Netherlands can handle him in open space.
                                                                      can't let this guy get going early.
                                                                      Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                                                      • HoulihansTX
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                                                                        • 02-12-09
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                                                                        #245
                                                                        Settle down folks.... 90 minute game.

                                                                        Be veterans about this.
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