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  • Optional
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    • 06-10-10
    • 61811

    #24501
    Originally posted by DwightShrute


    I will use, dudes competing against chicks, as my example of what anti-woke is.

    anti-woke is admitting allowing men to compete against women in competitive sports is idiotic.
    Woke is clapping when the dude beats the women by a lot and pretending men don't have a physical advantage.
    Anti-woke person would be embarrassed at how stupid people are allowing this and would demand and end to this.
    A woke person wouldn't care how unfair this is to all those women who have trained so hard.
    Woke people will declare how amazing, inspirational, and brave it is to have a trans woman competing in women's sports. The anti-Woke will say you're a fukking moron.
    Anti-woke person sticks up for what is right and decent.
    Woke person doesn't give a shit about decency and fairness.
    Anti-woke person who is in the crowd will say this isn't right, this isn't fair, this is wrong etc
    Woke person will clap and pretend this is fine and how its a victory for trans people.





    https://x.com/i/status/1195367352306741248
    I'm obviously on the woke end of the spectrum but don't think sex changed athletes should be included in womens sports. Certainly not in the way it was developing with any and all those that wanted to allowed.

    But I don't think those that advocate for it should be shut out without consideration at all.

    You don't need to agree with every 'woke opinion' to be woke enough to respect the right for people to try and get that done.


    You often say woke people try to stop you holding an opinion or expressing it. But in your case of transgenders in sport, isn't it only the anti-woke side trying to suppress freedom of opinion?

    I am sure we could come up with examples of both sides acting that same way.

    I'd ask, do you really want anyone on either side to not be free to speak their own minds?
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    • JAKEPEAVY21
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 03-11-11
      • 29332

      #24502
      Originally posted by Optional

      I'm obviously on the woke end of the spectrum but don't think sex changed athletes should be included in womens sports. Certainly not in the way it was developing with any and all those that wanted to allowed.

      But I don't think those that advocate for it should be shut out without consideration at all.

      You don't need to agree with every 'woke opinion' to be woke enough to respect the right for people to try and get that done.


      You often say woke people try to stop you holding an opinion or expressing it. But in your case of transgenders in sport, isn't it only the anti-woke side trying to suppress freedom of opinion?

      I am sure we could come up with examples of both sides acting that same way.

      I'd ask, do you really want anyone on either side to not be free to speak their own minds?
      There are certain things that are non negotiable based on science. There is no argument here nor debate. I suppose if one tells me that the sky is red, they are welcome to their opinion but everyone knows they are not playing with a full deck.

      Why pander to delusions when an issue is clear as day?

      Speaking your mind is one thing, but actually implementing things that are 100% wrong is another. The fact that we actually had men competing against women in high school and college sports as well as the Olympics was a travesty.
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      • Optional
        Administrator
        • 06-10-10
        • 61811

        #24503
        Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21

        There are certain things that are non negotiable based on science. There is no argument here nor debate. I suppose if one tells me that the sky is red, they are welcome to their opinion but everyone knows they are not playing with a full deck.

        Why pander to delusions when an issue is clear as day?

        Speaking your mind is one thing, but actually implementing things that are 100% wrong is another. The fact that we actually had men competing against women in high school and college sports as well as the Olympics was a travesty.
        Do you want me to argue for transgenders in womens sport? You know I don't agree with that idea.

        But I strongly disagree that there is no room for debate.

        Debate enlightens. Suppression breeds ignorance.

        I bet even you could come up with talking points to support transgender rights if put on a debate team to argue that side.
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        • JAKEPEAVY21
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 03-11-11
          • 29332

          #24504
          Originally posted by Optional

          Do you want me to argue for transgenders in womens sport? You know I don't agree with that idea.

          But I strongly disagree that there is no room for debate.

          Debate enlightens. Suppression breeds ignorance.

          I bet even you could come up with talking points to support transgender rights if put on a debate team to argue that side.
          I agree on 99% of issues, not on this one. Certain things are non negotiable and you can debate or give your take until the cows come home but men are men and women are women at the end of the day. I do not really want to rehash the obvious regarding men being physically stronger etc etc...

          Issues like this are the ones that make liberals all lose all credibility.

          You can tell me the sky is red and you are welcome to your opinion. However, that doesn't mean I can't ignore you and have a good laugh.
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          • str
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 01-12-09
            • 11810

            #24505
            With the rapidly going amount of people identifying as transgender, maybe it's time for them to have their own leagues.

            That way they can make their own rules and deal with it themselves.

            Why make people that cannot relate, understand. They understand, and relate.

            Seems like an easy fix too me.
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            • DwightShrute
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 01-17-09
              • 103477

              #24506
              Originally posted by Optional

              I'm obviously on the woke end of the spectrum but don't think sex changed athletes should be included in womens sports. Certainly not in the way it was developing with any and all those that wanted to allowed.

              But I don't think those that advocate for it should be shut out without consideration at all.

              You don't need to agree with every 'woke opinion' to be woke enough to respect the right for people to try and get that done.


              You often say woke people try to stop you holding an opinion or expressing it. But in your case of transgenders in sport, isn't it only the anti-woke side trying to suppress freedom of opinion?

              I am sure we could come up with examples of both sides acting that same way.

              I'd ask, do you really want anyone on either side to not be free to speak their own minds?
              how are the anti-woke side trying to suppress freedom of opinion?

              Woke Netflix employees protested outside their own office building against the David Chapel Netflix special where mentioned transgender in his routine. Ironically, he actually said nice things about the transgender person in his act.

              You have it backwards. Its almost always the woke who are suppressing freedom of opinion.

              During Trump's first term, you couldn't wear a MAGA hat in public in many places. That still rings true in certain places today but much less obviously.

              If you wore a MAGA hat to a restaurant or on a plane, the restaurant would refuse to serve you or you would be harassed. On a plane they would make you take it off or the person beside you would ask you to remove it or ask the flight attendant if they could change seats. If you wore a Biden or Kamala hat, no one would bother you. We can disagree and still be civil. Is that a good enough example?

              Omg you bought a Tesla but expressed your opinion the government waste is bad. The opinion didn't sit well with the woke crowd did it? They keyed your car. The burned Tesla's and Tesla dealerships. How dare you be in favor of elimination government waste. How dare you! Who were the people keying Tesla's a few months ago? Woke or anti-woke?

              Last example ... if you broke down on the side of the road in the middle of no where with a Harris/Walz bumper sticker, and needed help, and a F-150 came along, with a Trump 2024 sticker, a TRUMP 2024 flag and the driver wore a red MAGA hat, he would pull over and offer to help you. If the rolls were reverse, they would drive by while giving him the finger.
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              • DwightShrute
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 01-17-09
                • 103477

                #24507
                Originally posted by str
                With the rapidly going amount of people identifying as transgender, maybe it's time for them to have their own leagues.

                That way they can make their own rules and deal with it themselves.

                Why make people that cannot relate, understand. They understand, and relate.

                Seems like an easy fix too me.
                I have said the same thing. Make a transgender division.

                No one is against transgenders. All of us only go around the sun a certain number of times, so you should live your lives how you want. Just don't force it on children and quite pretending men and women are the same. They aren't. That's why there are 2 bathrooms and why Olympics have men and women's events.

                BTW, why does it seem there is a rapid increase of people identifying as transgender?
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                • str
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 01-12-09
                  • 11810

                  #24508
                  Originally posted by DwightShrute

                  I have said the same thing. Make a transgender division.

                  No one is against transgenders. All of us only go around the sun a certain number of times, so you should live your lives how you want. Just don't force it on children and quite pretending men and women are the same. They aren't. That's why there are 2 bathrooms and why Olympics have men and women's events.

                  BTW, why does it seem there is a rapid increase of people identifying as transgender?
                  I wonder if it is the media and even politics that has helped blow it up by seemingly giving it a voice ?

                  At first, it was just live and let live. Just get along and know that not everyone is the same. Fine. But then when given recognition, it is pushed forward.

                  A political view one way or the other will only sensationalize it I think. But just a guess.

                  It's been around forever, but not shoved up everybody's nose.

                  It seems like a trendy thing to do these days.

                  Kids that are boys and girls in middle school, which is what I see and hear daily, pretty much just roll their eyes at it. They think it's dumb. They are not affected other than to say it gets annoying after a while.

                  I guess that when you finally recognize a certain thing, like gay or straight, there is seemingly always an overreaction for a while, then the next thing comes along, and the previous one settles down some. Let's hope so.

                  Dwight, when I hear all that stuff, I just tune out. Do and be what you want, but don't tell me I have to respond or act a certain way to it.

                  I always found it odd that when given a voice or opportunity to just be whatever someone wants to be, more often than not, those that are different, just can't be different, they need to ram it down everyone's throat and make sure everyone responds to their liking.

                  Isn't that why there are curtains on windows. You be you, I'll be me, and chill the heck out.

                  Maybe I'm crazy.

                  Who knows.

                  BTW, 10 hours of commercial free football starts... in 8 days.

                  I know... go Fins!

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                  • DwightShrute
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 01-17-09
                    • 103477

                    #24509
                    Originally posted by str

                    I wonder if it is the media and even politics that has helped blow it up by seemingly giving it a voice ?

                    At first, it was just live and let live. Just get along and know that not everyone is the same. Fine. But then when given recognition, it is pushed forward.

                    A political view one way or the other will only sensationalize it I think. But just a guess.

                    It's been around forever, but not shoved up everybody's nose.

                    It seems like a trendy thing to do these days.

                    Kids that are boys and girls in middle school, which is what I see and hear daily, pretty much just roll their eyes at it. They think it's dumb. They are not affected other than to say it gets annoying after a while.

                    I guess that when you finally recognize a certain thing, like gay or straight, there is seemingly always an overreaction for a while, then the next thing comes along, and the previous one settles down some. Let's hope so.

                    Dwight, when I hear all that stuff, I just tune out. Do and be what you want, but don't tell me I have to respond or act a certain way to it.

                    I always found it odd that when given a voice or opportunity to just be whatever someone wants to be, more often than not, those that are different, just can't be different, they need to ram it down everyone's throat and make sure everyone responds to their liking.

                    Isn't that why there are curtains on windows. You be you, I'll be me, and chill the heck out.

                    Maybe I'm crazy.

                    Who knows.

                    BTW, 10 hours of commercial free football starts... in 8 days.

                    I know... go Fins!
                    I agree with basically everything you said.

                    BTW, since moving to Thailand, Sunday kick off is midnight for me and 1 am when they daylight savings ends.

                    Miami will shock the world
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                    • str
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 01-12-09
                      • 11810

                      #24510
                      Originally posted by DwightShrute

                      I agree with basically everything you said.

                      BTW, since moving to Thailand, Sunday kick off is midnight for me and 1 am when they daylight savings ends.

                      Miami will shock the world
                      Oh that's right. Forgot about the severe time change.

                      You gotta record that if possible.

                      Good luck this season Dwight !
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                      • stevenash
                        Moderator
                        • 01-17-11
                        • 65708

                        #24511
                        Originally posted by DwightShrute


                        BTW, why does it seem there is a rapid increase of people identifying as transgender?
                        Here are the transgender demographics.
                        Yes, there is an increase.

                        How many adults and youth identify as transgender in the United States?
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                        • jt315
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 11-12-11
                          • 22022

                          #24512
                          SCOTT JENNINGS: "The left is currently trying to tell us that public health is in danger because a guy who thinks men can get pregnant is leaving the CDC."


                          "I think we'll do just fine without him."
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                          • jt315
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 11-12-11
                            • 22022

                            #24513
                            On Sunday the nationalists in Australia are organizing a series of Australia-First marches confronting the issues of excessive migration, globalism, corporate control of politicians, population change and the destruction of Australian cultural identity.





                            Earlier this month, March for Australia said protests are scheduled across the country on August 31 to demand the government end “mass immigration”.


                            It claimed “Australia’s unity and shared values had been eroded by policies and movements that divide us” and migration had “torn at the bonds” holding communities together.


                            “This march is a stand for the people, culture and nation that built Australia – and for our right to decide its future,” its website read.



                            Australia first . Has a familiar ring to it mate .
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                            • Optional
                              Administrator
                              • 06-10-10
                              • 61811

                              #24514
                              Originally posted by jt315
                              On Sunday the nationalists in Australia are organizing a series of Australia-First marches confronting the issues of excessive migration, globalism, corporate control of politicians, population change and the destruction of Australian cultural identity.





                              Earlier this month, March for Australia said protests are scheduled across the country on August 31 to demand the government end “mass immigration”.


                              It claimed “Australia’s unity and shared values had been eroded by policies and movements that divide us” and migration had “torn at the bonds” holding communities together.


                              “This march is a stand for the people, culture and nation that built Australia – and for our right to decide its future,” its website read.



                              Australia first . Has a familiar ring to it mate .
                              I'm guessing you don't know that a self described neo-nazi group organized that JT?


                              Anyway, more power to them exercising their right to push their opinion in others faces. One of the cons of a free society.


                              BTW, here is how a true freedom loving government handles protests they don't like...


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                              • Optional
                                Administrator
                                • 06-10-10
                                • 61811

                                #24515
                                Originally posted by DwightShrute

                                I have said the same thing. Make a transgender division.

                                No one is against transgenders. All of us only go around the sun a certain number of times, so you should live your lives how you want. Just don't force it on children and quite pretending men and women are the same. They aren't. That's why there are 2 bathrooms and why Olympics have men and women's events.

                                BTW, why does it seem there is a rapid increase of people identifying as transgender?
                                Really? Yet a transgender is too mentally ill to run the CDC? No person with their sex changed on a national passport of any country can enter the USA! Can a transgender join the US military? Aren't they all mentally ill? No one is against them you say??


                                Anyway as to the rapid increase, apart from the metoo movement mindset and general swing left in social issues that was happening since the late 80s, I'd say there is two main reasons they seem more visible. A rising feeling of safety in coming out, and the rapid increase in medical and surgical technology to help them look how they feel.

                                But I'd also argue that it isn't just a mindset change. There is plenty of evidence of cross dressing and gender role switching all through history back to ancient cultures.


                                I remember a time when the thought of gay men was abhorrent and I probably considered them evil or mentally ill.

                                That seems laughable now.
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                                • DwightShrute
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 01-17-09
                                  • 103477

                                  #24516
                                  Originally posted by Optional

                                  Apart from the metoo movement mindset and general swing left in social issues that was happening since the late 80s, I'd say there is two main reasons they seem more visible. A rising feeling of safety in coming out, and the rapid increase in medical and surgical technology to help them look how they feel.

                                  But I'd also argue that it isn't just a mindset change. There is plenty of evidence of cross dressing and gender role switching all through history back to ancient cultures.


                                  I remember a time when the thought of gay men was abhorrent and I probably considered them evil or mentally ill.

                                  That seems laughable now.
                                  I know that cross dressing has existed throughout history.

                                  Don't you think that many teens suffer from identity crisis growing up. Not everyone matures at the same rate. That's no reason to chop off body parts just because medical surgery technology is superior today, then it was before. This isn't a mulligan. Once it’s done, it’s pretty much game over. Guys who chop off the dicks have a lifetime of creams and surgeries ahead of them. Many regret these decisions as they enter adulthood.

                                  Any doctor who chops of body parts of children because they said they wanted to change sexes, should have their medical license cancelled. Any parent that allows their child to me mutilated should be punished. England has admitted they were wrong to allow this to happen to children and has banned the process.

                                  What does it say about parents who tell people their 2-year-old child is trans? Just because you can breed, doesn't mean you should. These are disgusting people.

                                  I have said it many times, there is no such thing as transphobia or homophobia. No one fears these people. There are good and bad people who are gay, straight, trans, white, Bi, black, brown, etc. No one has a monopoly on that shit. Leave kids alone. Stop indoctrinating them with pride flags and drag queen story hour. Let them be children like we used to be. Let them figure it out for themselves.

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                                  • Hareeba!
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                                    • 07-01-06
                                    • 37344

                                    #24517
                                    Originally posted by Optional

                                    I'm guessing you don't know that a self described neo-nazi group organized that JT?


                                    Anyway, more power to them exercising their right to push their opinion in others faces. One of the cons of a free society.


                                    BTW, here is how a true freedom loving government handles protests they don't like...


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                                    Originally posted by jt315
                                    On Sunday the nationalists in Australia are organizing a series of Australia-First marches confronting the issues of excessive migration, globalism, corporate control of politicians, population change and the destruction of Australian cultural identity.

                                    "nationalists"?

                                    You mean neo-nazis

                                    And the overwhelming consensus is that they were poorly attended = a monumental flop

                                    And one of them ended with the nazis violently attacking a first nations camp in Melbourne.

                                    Reminder .. first nations' people aren't immigrants.
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                                    • Hareeba!
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                                      • 07-01-06
                                      • 37344

                                      #24518

                                      So Trump put the National Guard on 29 day orders?!

                                      Why does this matter?:

                                      They don’t pay full housing allowance and no health insurance until 30 days.

                                      Are you seeing it yet MAGAts?

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                                      • Hareeba!
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                                        • 07-01-06
                                        • 37344

                                        #24519
                                        When you learn that 1/4 of American adults can't read above 5th grade level, the existence of MAGA suddenly makes sense.
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                                        • jt315
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 11-12-11
                                          • 22022

                                          #24520
                                          Originally posted by Hareeba!

                                          Originally posted by jt315
                                          On Sunday the nationalists in Australia are organizing a series of Australia-First marches confronting the issues of excessive migration, globalism, corporate control of politicians, population change and the destruction of Australian cultural identity.

                                          "nationalists"?

                                          You mean neo-nazis

                                          And the overwhelming consensus is that they were poorly attended = a monumental flop

                                          And one of them ended with the nazis violently attacking a first nations camp in Melbourne.

                                          Reminder .. first nations' people aren't immigrants.


                                          Says who ? Your far left outlets ?


                                          The March For Australia rally in Sydney, which drew between 5,000 and 8,000 participants according to the ABC, was among several demonstrations planned nationwide.

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                                          • jt315
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 11-12-11
                                            • 22022

                                            #24521
                                            Originally posted by Optional

                                            I'm guessing you don't know that a self described neo-nazi group organized that JT?


                                            Anyway, more power to them exercising their right to push their opinion in others faces. One of the cons of a free society.


                                            BTW, here is how a true freedom loving government handles protests they don't like...


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                                            Would that neo-nazi group you speak of be called NSN ?
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                                            • Optional
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                                              • 06-10-10
                                              • 61811

                                              #24522
                                              Originally posted by DwightShrute

                                              I know that cross dressing has existed throughout history.

                                              Don't you think that many teens suffer from identity crisis growing up. Not everyone matures at the same rate. That's no reason to chop off body parts just because medical surgery technology is superior today, then it was before. This isn't a mulligan. Once it’s done, it’s pretty much game over. Guys who chop off the dicks have a lifetime of creams and surgeries ahead of them. Many regret these decisions as they enter adulthood.

                                              Any doctor who chops of body parts of children because they said they wanted to change sexes, should have their medical license cancelled. Any parent that allows their child to me mutilated should be punished. England has admitted they were wrong to allow this to happen to children and has banned the process.

                                              What does it say about parents who tell people their 2-year-old child is trans? Just because you can breed, doesn't mean you should. These are disgusting people.

                                              I have said it many times, there is no such thing as transphobia or homophobia. No one fears these people. There are good and bad people who are gay, straight, trans, white, Bi, black, brown, etc. No one has a monopoly on that shit. Leave kids alone. Stop indoctrinating them with pride flags and drag queen story hour. Let them be children like we used to be. Let them figure it out for themselves.
                                              Sounds sensible to me to not allow surgery on kids. The legal age for that is 18 down here so no kids are legally operated on anyway.

                                              As far as parents encouraging 2 year olds to develop gender dysphoria. That sounds like brainwashing and immoral to me personally. But so does indoctrinating your children with almost any sort of ideology to me. What about Asian parents who treat their kids education like a gulag experience that also scores their allowable level of self worth? Should they be stopped too?

                                              I don't like the thought of parents who think gender identity is something they need to manage in children. But do we think it's a parents right to bring up their kids any way they choose? It's a tough question to answer in your example of kids and encouraging them. And please don't come back at me with surgery again. You asked about "parents who tell people their 2-year-old child is trans"... not drug or operate on them.

                                              I don't understand it and can't relate to anyone wanting it, just like I could not imagine ever understanding how a man could be gay in the 70s/80s. I suspect you are the same, so neither of us should be demanding we know what's best to do with them.
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                                              • Optional
                                                Administrator
                                                • 06-10-10
                                                • 61811

                                                #24523
                                                Originally posted by jt315

                                                Would that neo-nazi group you speak of be called NSN ?
                                                One of Thomas Sewell's white power groups.

                                                Look him up.

                                                But if you already knew what this was about, color me shocked that you would support it anyway.
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                                                • jt315
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 11-12-11
                                                  • 22022

                                                  #24524
                                                  Originally posted by Optional

                                                  One of Thomas Sewell's white power groups.

                                                  Look him up.

                                                  But if you already knew what this was about, color me shocked that you would support it anyway.

                                                  Color me shocked indeed

                                                  On August 11, March for Australia responded to claims from a well-known neo-Nazi that the rally was being organised by prominent neo-Nazi group the National Socialist Network (NSN), with organisers seeking to distance themselves from the group.

                                                  "We wish to make it clear: the organisers are not members of, nor acting on behalf of, any other group. In particular, recent claims by [the NSN] are not reflective of the organisers nor the politics of March for Australia."

                                                  ABC NEWS Verify found no evidence that the NSN has been involved in organising the marches.
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                                                  • DwightShrute
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 01-17-09
                                                    • 103477

                                                    #24525
                                                    Originally posted by Optional

                                                    Sounds sensible to me to not allow surgery on kids. The legal age for that is 18 down here so no kids are legally operated on anyway.

                                                    As far as parents encouraging 2 year olds to develop gender dysphoria. That sounds like brainwashing and immoral to me personally. But so does indoctrinating your children with almost any sort of ideology to me. What about Asian parents who treat their kids education like a gulag experience that also scores their allowable level of self worth? Should they be stopped too?

                                                    I don't like the thought of parents who think gender identity is something they need to manage in children. But do we think it's a parents right to bring up their kids any way they choose? It's a tough question to answer in your example of kids and encouraging them. And please don't come back at me with surgery again. You asked about "parents who tell people their 2-year-old child is trans"... not drug or operate on them.

                                                    I don't understand it and can't relate to anyone wanting it, just like I could not imagine ever understanding how a man could be gay in the 70s/80s. I suspect you are the same, so neither of us should be demanding we know what's best to do with them.
                                                    I agree with a lot of what you say.

                                                    Teachers should concentrate on education. Reading, math etc., not how many pretend genders there are or using these ridiculous pronouns which people with mental disorders use. I never knew my teacher's private business, whether they identify as a he/him or she/her or them/they, and I didn't want to know either. They don't even make grammatical sense. It's retarded. Many kids today are forced to know all that stuff about them. Kids care about playing games, having fun, riding bikes, and eating. They care about their friends, their family and being kids. They don't care about Karen, their homeroom teacher, who dyes her hair pink, has a ring through her nose, and puts up rainbow flags all over the classroom. No one could stand to be around these insufferable losers, so they became teachers. And btw, I would feel the same way if the teacher was a skinhead and put up all sorts of inappropriate shit in the classroom and make students identify as whatever you can think of. They are boys and girls and they have names. That is all.

                                                    We will probably disagree, but I think people who walk around pretending they are a different sex, have a mental disorder. Not saying they are necessarily mentally ill, although some clearly are, but it's my opinion when I see a man dressing up as a woman. Not as a joke, or a role in a movie, but as a lifestyle. And that's fine, I guess. It's their life. I don't have to hang around with them. I will treat them just as I would anyone else. If they are nice to me and respectful, they will receive the same.

                                                    Why do drag queens feel it necessary to read stories to kindergartners? They are trying to normalize something that isn't normal. Mental disorders are conditions that affect your thinking, feeling, mood, and behavior. I won't ride my bike through the mall, I won't yell how great I feel when I am going to take a piss at 3 am with a house full of sleeping people, and I won't dress up as a woman to go read books to young children. Those are mental disorders.

                                                    I agree with you that it’s a mindset thing. It’s kinda laughable, like you said, how we treated gays back then. Same with Blacks, Indians and don't forget the Japanese we put in camps. It wasn't the world I grew up in. Here's the thing, not everything that was once wrong will be acceptable/right someday. Some will. Some won’t. Case by case. Men pretending to be women will never be a normal thing. Not in out lifetime.


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                                                    • Optional
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                                                      • 06-10-10
                                                      • 61811

                                                      #24526
                                                      Originally posted by jt315


                                                      Color me shocked indeed

                                                      On August 11, March for Australia responded to claims from a well-known neo-Nazi that the rally was being organised by prominent neo-Nazi group the National Socialist Network (NSN), with organisers seeking to distance themselves from the group.

                                                      "We wish to make it clear: the organisers are not members of, nor acting on behalf of, any other group. In particular, recent claims by [the NSN] are not reflective of the organisers nor the politics of March for Australia."

                                                      ABC NEWS Verify found no evidence that the NSN has been involved in organising the marches.
                                                      Dude, every rally had speakers from all of Sewell's groups. They are proud white supremacists. That is what it was about.

                                                      Like I said, both you and they can hold your views and should have the right to protest about them.

                                                      Just remember how you feel about this issue next time you are triggered by khicks calling you names that fit what you say and support sometimes.
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                                                      • Optional
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                                                        • 06-10-10
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                                                        #24527
                                                        Originally posted by DwightShrute

                                                        I agree with a lot of what you say.

                                                        Teachers should concentrate on education. Reading, math etc., not how many pretend genders there are or using these ridiculous pronouns which people with mental disorders use. I never knew my teacher's private business, whether they identify as a he/him or she/her or them/they, and I didn't want to know either. They don't even make grammatical sense. It's retarded. Many kids today are forced to know all that stuff about them. Kids care about playing games, having fun, riding bikes, and eating. They care about their friends, their family and being kids. They don't care about Karen, their homeroom teacher, who dyes her hair pink, has a ring through her nose, and puts up rainbow flags all over the classroom. No one could stand to be around these insufferable losers, so they became teachers. And btw, I would feel the same way if the teacher was a skinhead and put up all sorts of inappropriate shit in the classroom and make students identify as whatever you can think of. They are boys and girls and they have names. That is all.

                                                        We will probably disagree, but I think people who walk around pretending they are a different sex, have a mental disorder. Not saying they are necessarily mentally ill, although some clearly are, but it's my opinion when I see a man dressing up as a woman. Not as a joke, or a role in a movie, but as a lifestyle. And that's fine, I guess. It's their life. I don't have to hang around with them. I will treat them just as I would anyone else. If they are nice to me and respectful, they will receive the same.

                                                        Why do drag queens feel it necessary to read stories to kindergartners? They are trying to normalize something that isn't normal. Mental disorders are conditions that affect your thinking, feeling, mood, and behavior. I won't ride my bike through the mall, I won't yell how great I feel when I am going to take a piss at 3 am with a house full of sleeping people, and I won't dress up as a woman to go read books to young children. Those are mental disorders.

                                                        I agree with you that it’s a mindset thing. It’s kinda laughable, like you said, how we treated gays back then. Same with Blacks, Indians and don't forget the Japanese we put in camps. It wasn't the world I grew up in. Here's the thing, not everything that was once wrong will be acceptable/right someday. Some will. Some won’t. Case by case. Men pretending to be women will never be a normal thing. Not in out lifetime.

                                                        Teachers should definitely not be teaching ideological stuff. It happens too much on many issues. Education should include ethics lessons so kids are taught how to judge issues for themselves. Not told what think. In public education anyway.

                                                        Definitely a mental aberration by todays norms. Does it mean they are non-functional humans not worthy of any respect or acceptance though? If we were talking about anorexia or any other body dysmorphia condition I doubt anyone would see the need to exclude them from society as never to be accepted as having just another "normal" human condition. I'm not seeing the great danger they pose compared to other similar psychological problems.

                                                        Agree drag queens want to do kids shows to normalize themselves. Don't like it. Surprised schools etc seem to get behind it. But can understand why they want to do that. Especially in the face of adults who say they will never accept them.

                                                        Is normal important really? I wonder how many posters actually think they are an example of "normal". These people don't have to be normal to not deserve to be the target of personal anger or have their rights restricted.
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                                                        • DwightShrute
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                                                          #24528
                                                          Originally posted by Optional

                                                          Teachers should definitely not be teaching ideological stuff. It happens too much on many issues. Education should include ethics lessons so kids are taught how to judge issues for themselves. Not told what think. In public education anyway.

                                                          Definitely a mental aberration by todays norms. Does it mean they are non-functional humans not worthy of any respect or acceptance though? If we were talking about anorexia or any other body dysmorphia condition I doubt anyone would see the need to exclude them from society as never to be accepted as having just another "normal" human condition. I'm not seeing the great danger they pose compared to other similar psychological problems.

                                                          Agree drag queens want to do kids shows to normalize themselves. Don't like it. Surprised schools etc seem to get behind it. But can understand why they want to do that. Especially in the face of adults who say they will never accept them.

                                                          Is normal important really? I wonder how many posters actually think they are an example of "normal". These people don't have to be normal to not deserve to be the target of personal anger or have their rights restricted.
                                                          ok good points again.


                                                          would you agree with me that this woman is suffering from a mental illness?


                                                          I mean, she might be physically on the same planet as me but that is where it ends. This isn't an example of "normal". It's about as far from normal as there is. Her mind is broken. She is obviously ill and that's as obvious as the sky is blue and the grass is green. Yet, she is just the representative on some organization filled with mentally ill people just like her. She somehow gets paid money for her time I assume. Crazy times.
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                                                          • stevenash
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                                                            • 01-17-11
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                                                            #24529
                                                            Quote ot the day.

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                                                            • Optional
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                                                              #24530
                                                              Originally posted by DwightShrute

                                                              ok good points again.


                                                              would you agree with me that this woman is suffering from a mental illness?


                                                              I mean, she might be physically on the same planet as me but that is where it ends. This isn't an example of "normal". It's about as far from normal as there is. Her mind is broken. She is obviously ill and that's as obvious as the sky is blue and the grass is green. Yet, she is just the representative on some organization filled with mentally ill people just like her. She somehow gets paid money for her time I assume. Crazy times.
                                                              Couldn't she simply be a garden variety extremist willing to say anything needed to support their agenda?

                                                              But what does it matter if one woman is mentally ill or not?

                                                              Does that mean anyone who supports a tranny's right to the same rights you and i enjoy is mentally ill?

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                                                              • DwightShrute
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                                                                #24531
                                                                Originally posted by Optional

                                                                Couldn't she simply be a garden variety extremist willing to say anything needed to support their agenda?

                                                                But what does it matter if one woman is mentally ill or not?

                                                                Does that mean anyone who supports a tranny's right to the same rights you and i enjoy is mentally ill?
                                                                Do you think men can get pregnant?

                                                                A tranny already has the same rights as anyone don't they? What right's don't trans people have that everyone else have?

                                                                As far as whether it matters or not if they are mentally ill or not, it might not matter to everyone all the time, but it might if they are your children's teacher or if they are allowed to be in positions of power to make laws.

                                                                Would you let someone who thinks men can get pregnant, babysit your kids? To teach your kids? Heck, I wouldn't want to get into an Uber if my driver believed that. Who knows what else they believe. Maybe a red light means go or a stop sign means speed up?

                                                                Just look at congress. Hell, America had a mentally ill president recently and the media said he was the sharpest he's ever been. Look at CNN and some of their frequent contributors they have on. They'll tell people how wrong it is to have safe streets. It's racist somehow. Isn't that a mental disorder of some kind? Maybe just TDS.






                                                                What do you call someone who refers to themselves at he/him or they/them or xe/xem/xyr or fae/faer?Wanna bet these people use pronouns in the bios and demand you do?
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                                                                • icon
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                                                                  #24532
                                                                  Wheres Trump? He hasn't been seen publicly in days, hope he is alright.
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                                                                  • DwightShrute
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                                                                    • 01-17-09
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                                                                    #24533
                                                                    Originally posted by icon
                                                                    Wheres Trump? He hasn't been seen publicly in days, hope he is alright.
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                                                                    • thezbar
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                                                                      • 08-29-06
                                                                      • 6425

                                                                      #24534
                                                                      Originally posted by icon
                                                                      Wheres Trump? He hasn't been seen publicly in days, hope he is alright.
                                                                      There have been posts of Mr. Trump with swollen legs and bruises on the back of his hands. The legs could be a sign of cardio-vascular issues. The bruises could be an indication of liver issues. With a high stress job. his age. and reported eating habits I have some concerns. Regards of your position the president is the commander, and chief should have the support of all Americans.
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                                                                      • DwightShrute
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                                                                        • 01-17-09
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                                                                        #24535
                                                                        Originally posted by thezbar

                                                                        There have been posts of Mr. Trump with swollen legs and bruises on the back of his hands. The legs could be a sign of cardio-vascular issues. The bruises could be an indication of liver issues. With a high stress job. his age. and reported eating habits I have some concerns. Regards of your position the president is the commander, and chief should have the support of all Americans.
                                                                        its called getting older isn't it? It sucks but it only happens to those lucky enough to get old.
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