Climate Change

[Hareeba!]

Nothing to see here.

Just a record-breaking winter heat build up in Central Australia as max temps in places like Alice Springs rise to within a degree of the SUMMER average!

[Hareeba!]

How does today’s extreme heat compare with Earth’s past climate?


During a period called the Palaeocene-Eocene thermal maximum, which occurred about 55m years ago, temperatures jumped by at least 5C as carbon dioxide flooded into the atmosphere – but this change unfolded over thousands of years. By contrast, the modern world has heated up by more than 1C in little more than a century.


“A hundred years or so is less than a blink of an eye in Earth’s history,” said Lina Pérez-Angel, a palaeoclimatologist at Brown University. “There’s nothing in Earth’s history that shows a change happening this quickly, it’s just so, so fast.

Usually these changes take a long time, things can adapt. Right now the pace of change is one of the biggest concerns we have.”

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/article/2024/aug/14/how-does-today-extreme-heat-compare-with-earth-past-climate?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

[slewfan]

In 2009 Australia experienced it's worst heat wave ever recorded. Has not happened since.

In 2009, and ice storm ravaged 7 states in south central U.S. Has not happened since.

I wonder if the Globe has it's own agenda.?. Maybe.?.

[Hareeba!]

The current retreat of glaciers in the tropical Andes is unprecedented in the last 11,700 years!
Ecosystems and communities that rely on glaciers for freshwater will be impacted even at the lowest global warming targets of 1.5°C or below.

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.adg7546

[Hareeba!]

The end is nigh.

For insects, bats, protest, the planet…

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jul/28/the-end-is-nigh-for-insects-bats-protest-the-planet?CMP=share_btn_url

[Hareeba!]

nearly 4 million square kilometres below the 1981-2010 average...

[Hareeba!]

A new daily global mean temperature record, 17.09°C, was set two days ago on 21 July, according to @CopernicusECMWF
ERA5 reanalysis.

[captrobey]

What's your point? We all are responsible for the climate. The US wouldn't be a world power if we didn't use up natural resources. We can't go back to the stone age but can do our best to reduce our impact. We need a lot of people doing a little. It's not about blaming anyone. It's about being open and honest. But you first need to believe there's a problem before you are willing to do anything about it. It doesn't look like you think there's a problem. So carry on.

The problem is these are all Taylor Swifts planes.

[Mac4Lyfe]

They used Zoom calls during the pandemic. If they were really all about "saving the planet" they would continue to do this instead of proving their true hypocrisy by flying all over the world in their private jets. They just want to have their cake and eat yours, too.

What's wrong with flying all over the world? You don't travel? Should we go by horse and buggy? WE ALL USE ENERGY. It has increased/bettered our standard of living. We all produce carbon. I don't think it's hypocritical to talk about reducing carbon even if we all have to use it. Like I said, the US is one of the worse offenders. Technology hopefully can solve the issue. We first must recognize what we do and find better ways to do it. I've worked in coal plants. It's dirty but much better than sitting at home in the dark. The US has to have energy diversity. You don't want just one source of energy. But we also want energy that is clean, affordable and won't impact our citizens health in the long term. There's no easy solutions and one solution can't be applied to every one. Too many variables.

[b1slickguy]

What's your point? We all are responsible for the climate. The US wouldn't be a world power if we didn't use up natural resources. We can't go back to the stone age but can do our best to reduce our impact. We need a lot of people doing a little. It's not about blaming anyone. It's about being open and honest. But you first need to believe there's a problem before you are willing to do anything about it. It doesn't look like you think there's a problem. So carry on.

They used Zoom calls during the pandemic. If they were really all about "saving the planet" they would continue to do this instead of proving their true hypocrisy by flying all over the world in their private jets. They just want to have their cake and eat yours, too.

[Mac4Lyfe]

What's your point? We all are responsible for the climate. The US wouldn't be a world power if we didn't use up natural resources. We can't go back to the stone age but can do our best to reduce our impact. We need a lot of people doing a little. It's not about blaming anyone. It's about being open and honest. But you first need to believe there's a problem before you are willing to do anything about it. It doesn't look like you think there's a problem. So carry on.

[b1slickguy]

[DwightShrute]

I don't think there's one immediate solution that will solve every problem. But it comes from awareness, challenging and maybe punishing the worst offenders (the US being one of them). Freon R-22 HCFC for example was known to destroy the ozone layer, so we instilled laws to reduce it's use. Same for some pesticides that easily contaminated our water supply. Make the price prohibitive and folks will use something else.

China is a great example. They're air pollution is so bad it kills 2 million people there a year. Building more coal plants is easy in a country that can ignore its people. They also pretty much are forced to use coal to maintain energy independence.

But to answer your question. Nuclear energy used for electricity and to make green hydrogen is where the world will eventually go. We will be forced to go in that direction. It'll be long after you and I are gone.

seems like the way to go.

seems inevitable. especially with the EV's.

[Mac4Lyfe]

So, my questions has always been the same. What is the solution?

I don't think there's one immediate solution that will solve every problem. But it comes from awareness, challenging and maybe punishing the worst offenders (the US being one of them). Freon R-22 HCFC for example was known to destroy the ozone layer, so we instilled laws to reduce it's use. Same for some pesticides that easily contaminated our water supply. Make the price prohibitive and folks will use something else.

China is a great example. They're air pollution is so bad it kills 2 million people there a year. Building more coal plants is easy in a country that can ignore its people. They also pretty much are forced to use coal to maintain energy independence.

But to answer your question. Nuclear energy used for electricity and to make green hydrogen is where the world will eventually go. We will be forced to go in that direction. It'll be long after you and I are gone.

[DwightShrute]

China is building more coal plants but might burn less coal


https://www.sustainabilitybynumbers....na-coal-plants

Maybe. Interesting article. Not sure I buy it but interesting nevertheless.

I live on this planet also and want to to be as clean as possible.

[jackpot269]

I am not surprised. Yes climate change exists. Everyone knows this. I am more of a realist it seems. Yes we should do a better job as stewards of the planet. Should China be building 2 new coal plants every week and nearly 400 addition coal plants in the works? Do you think the pollution China makes only effects China? I am sure you have seem world wind patterns and even ocean p current patterns. How many trillions should a country spend on reducing climate change?

We all know Greenland is melting and island will be under water etc, but the Al Gore's movie and other predictions aren't completely truthful. If one looks into those prediction, they are mostly for hundreds of years from now. Thousands in some cases.


So, my questions has always been the same. What is the solution?

China is building more coal plants but might burn less coal

https://www.sustainabilitybynumbers.com/p/china-coal-plants

[DwightShrute]

So I'm not following you. On one hand you say that man can impact the climate but what? You don't think we should spend money to lesson the impact?

Funny you mentioned $90k. I worked in a nuclear plant where it cost estimated $90k to change a light bulb. We'd hear jokes about it all the time, even some pointing out over spend. Do you know why it cost $90k to change that bulb. Because that light lit up when spent fuel in the disassembly basin went critical, meaning there were enough neutrons to create a chain reaction. The acute radioactive dose one would receive if they walked into that building would immediately kill them. We had a saying, if you walked into that building and the light went off, bend over and kiss your ass goodbye. The light bulb wasn't there for the people already in the basin, They were already dead. It was to warned anyone else from walking in. There were at least 3 safety systems tied to that bulb. Yes, it cost a shit load of money and worth every penny if you walked by it every day.

I am not surprised. Yes climate change exists. Everyone knows this. I am more of a realist it seems. Yes we should do a better job as stewards of the planet. Should China be building 2 new coal plants every week and nearly 400 addition coal plants in the works? Do you think the pollution China makes only effects China? I am sure you have seem world wind patterns and even ocean p current patterns. How many trillions should a country spend on reducing climate change?

We all know Greenland is melting and island will be under water etc, but the Al Gore's movie and other predictions aren't completely truthful. If one looks into those prediction, they are mostly for hundreds of years from now. Thousands in some cases.


So, my questions has always been the same. What is the solution?

[Hareeba!]

Models predict that Earth will warm between 2 and 6 degrees Celsius in the next century.

When global warming has happened at various times in the past two million years, it has taken the planet about 5,000 years to warm 5 degrees.

The predicted rate of warming for the next century is at least 20 times faster.

[captrobey]

When i came to your world i came to save it. I have given you what is needed to save the human race. I have done this back in 1929 in the form of Twizzlers. If you take them and put them all together it creates a machine that eliminates all the pollutions in the Oceans and the Atmosphere. It will save all of you.

But instead you all eat the penetrating things.

[DwightShrute]

3 million people in Houston without power because of a hurricane in early July but climate deniers will say blame Mother Nature. Man has nothing to do with what we breathe, drink or eat either.

climate has always been changing. no one is denying that.

[Mac4Lyfe]

3 million people in Houston without power because of a hurricane in early July but climate deniers will say blame Mother Nature. Man has nothing to do with what we breathe, drink or eat either.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Everything’s About to Get a Hell of a Lot More Expensive Due to Climate Change

ng’s About to Get a Hell of a Lot More Expensive Due to Climate Change
Intensifying hurricanes, floods, and heat waves are wreaking havoc across the US—and on everyone’s bank accounts.

https://www.wired.com/story/everythi...limate-change/

I had a house in Orlando that the homeowners insurance went from $3,000 a year to $16,500 a year. I shit you not. Insurance companies have flew the coop and you can't find insurance companies. I just sold it a couple months ago. The same thing is happening in Texas and California where I have properties as well. These climate events are driving insurance companies out of business. They've had to change their risk numbers because these events are now too common.

[b1slickguy]

[Hareeba!]

June hottest on record, beating 2023 high: EU climate monitor

https://insiderpaper.com/june-hottes...imate-monitor/

[b1slickguy]

The climate scam is the vehicle to make their communist plot a reality. They've been at this for a long time.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/jd8Aj8y1MK">pic.twitter.com/jd8Aj8y1MK</a></p>&mdash; conspiracybot (@conspiracyb0t) <a href="https://twitter.com/conspiracyb0t/status/1809308830578196508?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >July 5, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[jackpot269]

Year	Named Storms	Hurricanes	Major Hurricanes
1851	6	3	1
1852	5	5	1
1853	8	4	2
1854	5	3	1
1855	5	4	1
1856	6	4	2
1857	4	3	0
1858	6	6	0
1859	8	7	1

ATLANTIC HURRICANE NUMBERS BY YEAR (stormfax.com)

[jackpot269]

Are there more hurricanes now than 50 years ago?








No. And a search for answers about climate and hurricane connections reveals little or no evidence that major landfalling hurricanes in the Eastern United States have increased in frequency since data collection started around 1850.
May 16, 2024

Here is 1995 to 2017

1995	19	11	5
1996	13	9	6
1997	8	3	1
1998	14	10	3
1999	12	8	5
2000	15	8	3
2001	15	9	4
2002	12	4	2
2003	16	7	3
2004	15	9	6
2005	28	15	7
2006	10	5	2
2007	15	6	2
2008	16	8	5
2009	9	3	2
2010	19	12	5
2011	19	7	4
2012	19	10	2
2013	14	2	0
2014	8	6	2
2015	11	4	2
2016	15	7	4
2017	17	10	6

ATLANTIC HURRICANE NUMBERS BY YEAR (stormfax.com)

[b1slickguy]

[mcaulay777]

One nut said Climate Change is changing Phoenix causing to be hotter the last few summers.Are you this dumb you live in fng Desert!

[Mac4Lyfe]

i have ever denied climate change. The climate has always been changing and will continue forever.

Does man have an effect on climate? Of course. So does the sun. So do other things. 97% of scientists DO NOT agree that climate change is man-made. That is a false narrative.

Follow the money like always. If you want government $ to study the mating habits of the brown squirrel, you won't get any. If you want government $ for the mating habits of the brown squirrel as it pertains to climate change, you will get millions.

Did you already forget about covid and the billions drug companies made on an experimental drug which didn't prevent anyone from getting covid or passing it on to someone else?

A bag of washers that would cost you $5 at Home Depot, the US military buys for $90,000.

Don't believe everything you are told by the same people that have been caught lying to you countless times. Stop being dumb.

So I'm not following you. On one hand you say that man can impact the climate but what? You don't think we should spend money to lesson the impact?

Funny you mentioned $90k. I worked in a nuclear plant where it cost estimated $90k to change a light bulb. We'd hear jokes about it all the time, even some pointing out over spend. Do you know why it cost $90k to change that bulb. Because that light lit up when spent fuel in the disassembly basin went critical, meaning there were enough neutrons to create a chain reaction. The acute radioactive dose one would receive if they walked into that building would immediately kill them. We had a saying, if you walked into that building and the light went off, bend over and kiss your ass goodbye. The light bulb wasn't there for the people already in the basin, They were already dead. It was to warned anyone else from walking in. There were at least 3 safety systems tied to that bulb. Yes, it cost a shit load of money and worth every penny if you walked by it every day.

[OldBill]

wit hold up TRUMP said WE had the best water and climate control ever

[b1slickguy]

[DwightShrute]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Experts predicted climate change would wipe out tiny islands like the one below.<br><br>Turns out, many are actually GROWING. <a href="https://t.co/9NzFN91imz">pic.twitter.com/9NzFN91imz</a></p>&mdash; End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) <a href="https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1806311939468935318?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >June 27, 2024</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[DwightShrute]

^^ Dwight - stop being dumb. Global warming, climate change is a real thing. Get your head out of your ass. It doesn't mean you have to do anything about it, because you are stuck in your own mind but denying it, even after every fukking person with a brain is telling you otherwise is just not smart.

Let me give you 2 examples of how MAN can impact nature. There's chemicals that are so toxic that a few cups can contaminate an entire water supply. Water pollution is very real. Then you have overfishing which impacts billions of people. So man can very easily impact our greatest resource... Water.

i have ever denied climate change. The climate has always been changing and will continue forever.

Does man have an effect on climate? Of course. So does the sun. So do other things. 97% of scientists DO NOT agree that climate change is man-made. That is a false narrative.

Follow the money like always. If you want government $ to study the mating habits of the brown squirrel, you won't get any. If you want government $ for the mating habits of the brown squirrel as it pertains to climate change, you will get millions.

Did you already forget about covid and the billions drug companies made on an experimental drug which didn't prevent anyone from getting covid or passing it on to someone else?

A bag of washers that would cost you $5 at Home Depot, the US military buys for $90,000.

Don't believe everything you are told by the same people that have been caught lying to you countless times. Stop being dumb.

[Mac4Lyfe]

^^ Dwight - stop being dumb. Global warming, climate change is a real thing. Get your head out of your ass. It doesn't mean you have to do anything about it, because you are stuck in your own mind but denying it, even after every fukking person with a brain is telling you otherwise is just not smart.

Let me give you 2 examples of how MAN can impact nature. There's chemicals that are so toxic that a few cups can contaminate an entire water supply. Water pollution is very real. Then you have overfishing which impacts billions of people. So man can very easily impact our greatest resource... Water.