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  • ABEHONEST
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    #1
    What will be Man's very first footprint image of stepping onto the surface of Mars
    Look like?
    Will it be much like Neil Armstrong's first footprint on the moon? This one..

    This is a serious scientific quiz, so let's see what you got?

    No joking because that will be boring.
  • JIBBBY
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    #2
    Mars isn't happening in our lifetimes. The travel time their is still to slow and unsafe for humans.
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    • ABEHONEST
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      #3
      Originally posted by JIBBBY
      Mars isn't happening in our lifetimes. The travel time their is still to slow and unsafe for humans.
      Jib here, may know about space travel in our future than me but I am simply going on pure logic?
      I believe we can pull this off in your lifetime, maybe even mine?
      Time will sure tell, won't it.
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      • VeggieDog
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        #4
        Well, since the moon landing was faked, they can fake Mars too.
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        • Foxx
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          #5
          Originally posted by ABEHONEST
          Jib here, may know about space travel in our future than me but I am simply going on pure logic?
          I believe we can pull this off in your lifetime, maybe even mine?
          Time will sure tell, won't it.
          Jibby's pretty old so maybe not in his lifetime. He might only have another decade left. Based on his posts, his cognitive function is already showing signs of decline.

          It will happen in some of our lifetimes though. It's inevitable. Could be a little chinese footprint though.
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          • jackpot269
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            #6
            Originally posted by JIBBBY
            Mars isn't happening in our lifetimes. The travel time their is still to slow and unsafe for humans.
            One of the big problems is hauling the amount of fuel it will take to get there . It takes a lot to clear earths gravitational pull. Read a NASA release a few months ago that said this was just one thing they are still not sure about. One option was having a refueling station on the moon. As far as the footprint I would think it may be a lot different than the moon landing because of the environment on Mars being so different the PPE suits and gear would different!!
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            • ace7550
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              • hehfest
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                #8
                Whatever the studio says it will be?
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                • tommir99
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                  #9
                  I don't believe they ever went to the moon. If they did, why don't they go there again?

                  If it was possible to go to the moon, it would be great. Liberals could be sent there, and gradually, sanity would return to the earth.
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                  • JIBBBY
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Foxx
                    Jibby's pretty old so maybe not in his lifetime. He might only have another decade left. Based on his posts, his cognitive function is already showing signs of decline.

                    It will happen in some of our lifetimes though. It's inevitable. Could be a little chinese footprint though.
                    Lol, I'm 50 and got 30 years easily in this body.. Cognitive brain skills are still firing on all cylinders when not drunk. Unfortunately I'm usually always drinking when posting on SBR.


                    I'll say again the journey to Mars back and forth for humans is a major challenge with our current technology! First off you have micro meteors traveling at VERY high speeds that can rip the space craft apart on a long MARS journey like that. Solar radiation exposure is a concern over that amount of travel time, it is taxing on the body. The hazards of reverse landing a full sized space craft and then take off on MARS is a very dangerous new challenge for humans also. Etc.

                    TO GO TO MARS - We will need to develop a force field of sorts around the space craft for starters and a more advanced propulsion method of faster travel other then rocket fuel for a SAFE human travel.

                    Pipe dream right now going to Mars.. Mars is dump anyways, who really wants to go there to touch sand and rocks?

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                    • TheGoldenGoose
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by tommir99
                      I don't believe they ever went to the moon. If they did, why don't they go there again?

                      If it was possible to go to the moon, it would be great. Liberals could be sent there, and gradually, sanity would return to the earth.
                      Shaddup dummy.
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                      • ABEHONEST
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                        #12
                        Look at your personal cell phones and think what you had 20 years ago.
                        Where there are ambitious men, and the financial support, Man will conquer Mars within 15, 20 years.
                        And we may most likely have to, to survive?

                        This World as we know it today, is fast going to hell.
                        People are crazy!!!
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                        • JIBBBY
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by ABEHONEST
                          Look at your personal cell phones and think what you had 20 years ago.
                          Where there are ambitious men, and the financial support, Man will conquer Mars within 15, 20 years.
                          And we may most likely have to, to survive?

                          This World as we know it today, is fast going to hell.
                          People are crazy!!!
                          Well ABE, we are getting more legit data and reports of UFO's and possible Alien contact now here on earth.

                          If we can reverse engineer a downed UFO alien craft then anything is fair game and possible going forward then!!
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                          • Foxx
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by JIBBBY
                            Lol, I'm 50 and got 30 years easily in this body.. Cognitive brain skills are still firing on all cylinders when not drunk. Unfortunately I'm usually always drinking when posting on SBR.
                            Just breaking balls.

                            I know there is some major technical challengers, but just seeing the advancement of the last few decades and given that the rate of advancement continues to accelerate, I'd put the over/under of a boot on Mars at 30 years.
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                            • TheGoldenGoose
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                              #15
                              We will conquer Mars within the next 15 years. Technology continues to advance at mathematical leaps. It makes sense that the human launch to Mars takes place from the Moon. Less fuel used, less weight drag, more oxygen, food, Tech equipment to be carried. An 18-24 month trip but it will be accomplished.
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                              • RudyRuetigger
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                                #16
                                If I was first one to fly to mars


                                Trust me, id need to take a piss


                                that would be the first thing to touch down
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                                • ABEHONEST
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                  Well ABE, we are getting more legit data and reports of UFO's and possible Alien contact now here on earth.

                                  If we can reverse engineer a downed UFO alien craft then anything is fair game and possible going forward then!!
                                  Sorry, Jib, I don't believe in ghosts or Aliens. We've had well over 240 years as a legitimate Republic and have "found" no physical evidence or seen any superior intelligence, truly existing anywhere else in the universe. Right?

                                  I'll wait and see if I see a ghost or any evidence of a genuine Alien for 10 more years, and if not, I give up completely because I probably won't have enough time left to wait any longer?
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                                  • KVB
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                                    #18
                                    Abe I think the Mars exploration suit will have a boot that is more of a hiking boot, or mountain boot.

                                    There are mountains on mars and the soil is rough.

                                    Any parts we can compare to sand would be like sand but much rougher, sharp like glass shards. There hasn't been any water erosion in a long time and even though the wind can erode, the grains aren't as smooth as earth.

                                    I would expect more of a hiking tread instead of the smooth moonboot that made prints like in the original post...


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                                    • KVB
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                                      • ABEHONEST
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                        If I was first one to fly to mars


                                        Trust me, id need to take a piss


                                        that would be the first thing to touch down
                                        Nah, that wouldn't be allowed on Mars. Your pee would be stored in your own personal sphere and would eventually, float toward the sun to be extinguished. Something like that.
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                                        • ABEHONEST
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by KVB
                                          They found plant life on Mars?
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                                          • KVB
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by ABEHONEST
                                            They found plant life on Mars?
                                            Yeah abe, and someone's hiking boots too.



                                            I know this, the first set of footprints on mars might look kind of funny if this astronaut is the first to land...



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                                            • JIBBBY
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                                              #23
                                              Mars is a wash, nothing to see there, rovers got that. Too far not worth the risk.

                                              Colonize first on the moon instead it's closer then work from there.


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                                              • ABEHONEST
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                                                #24
                                                Looks like the competition is reving up?
                                                The Moon, a natural satellite, that has always been at the centre of our cosmic curiosity is now suddenly at the centre of a new space rush. This rush, more intense than the one during the Cold War, is due to global technological advancement with efforts underway to find new minerals, resources and to look for answers to our origin.

                                                Several countries, including India and China are in a fast-paced race to be the first to make new discoveries on the lunar surface, which has been bruised and battered by billions of years of radiation and surface impact events. Apart from numerous probes, just a handful of humans have walked on the Moon, all men. So far, 24 humans have visited this massive landmass, 12 have walked on it.

                                                While India is planning to send the Chandrayaan-3 rover, the US, China, and Europe have renewed their focus on the lunar surface.


                                                Scientists believe that the moon is likely to have vast reserves of rare-Earth metals.
                                                Why this new obsession with Moon?
                                                The renewed efforts towards reaching the Moon consist of a sole purpose to build stations and a permanent presence on Earth’s natural satellite. The Moon could offer a significant piece of real estate that acts as a base to be used for further exploration to other planets, the first stop being Mars. A number of studies suggest that big rare-Earth metals present under the lunar regolith could be mined to boost tech demands back home.

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                                                Any country that is the first to set up a lunar base will likely have dominance in the new space race that has seen everything from the creation of a new branch of armed forces to testing anti-satellite missiles. While for some countries it's about dominance, for others it's part of a powerful ideological and expansionist tool to further their national cause.

                                                Meanwhile, the Moon could offer significant financial gains for many including private bigwigs such as SpaceX, Airbus, and Boeing that are in the space business. According to a report in Time magazine, space-based businesses currently contribute $350 billion dollars to global GDP. This contribution is projected to jump to $1.4 trillion by 2040.


                                                Graphic: Rahul Gupta/India Today
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                                                Known for its affordable and cost-efficient missions, the Indian Space Research Organisation (Isro) is set to return to the Moon with Chandrayaan-3, after its unsuccessful attempt to land a rover on the dark side of the Moon with Chandrayaan-2.

                                                The launch, which is delayed, is now set for 2022.

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                                                The Chandrayaan-3 spacecraft will carry a lander and a rover and plans to use the Chandrayaan-2 orbiter already hovering in Moon’s orbit. Isro had immense success with Chandrayaan-1 as the Moon Impact Probe detected water in vapour form in trace amounts. The discovery was corroborated by the JPL-Brown University payload Moon Mineralogy Mapper (M3) that confirmed that the formation of Hydroxyl ions and water molecules on the lunar surface is an ongoing process.


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                                                With Artemis, US plans to return to lunar surface
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                                                In 2020, the US renewed its approach to the Moon, which had been on the back burner following the end of the Apollo Programme with Apollo 17 in 1972. Nasa is now planning to go back to the Moon and stay on the lunar surface. The Artemis mission, named after the goddess of the Moon in Greek mythology, will see the first woman and the next man returning to the lunar surface and “develop a sustainable human presence on the Moon and set the stage for further human exploration to Mars". The first mission known as Artemis I is on track for 2021 without astronauts; Artemis II will fly with a crew in 2023.


                                                The Moon race has so far been dominated by the US and its Apollo programme. (Photo: Getty)
                                                China is here to stay
                                                When Chang-e 5 touched down in China’s Inner Mongolia region, the sample casing contained 4 pounds of lunar material, the first samples to return to Earth following the end of the Apollo missions. The Apollo programme had brought back 382 kilograms of soil and rocks from the Moon that are still being studied. With Chang-e probes, Beijing has been successful in not just exploring the near side but also the far side of the Moon.

                                                After falling behind the US and Russia, China has managed a permanent fixture in the race to explore the cosmos. After landing its probe on Mars this month, Beijing wants to develop a lunar presence and boost its capabilities as it directly competes with Nasa that has so far dominated the Moon race. A presence on the Moon will further solidify its agenda to push for missions far out into open space.


                                                China is in a fast paced race with the US and Russia to the Moon. (Photo: Getty)
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                                                The new decade could see a new era with countries collaborating to share technological advancement to explore beyond Earth's orbit. It will be interesting to see how geopolitics takes shape in the new race to our next-door cosmic neighbour.
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                                                • JIBBBY
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                                                  #25
                                                  Moon is a strategic hot spot for sure for the taking. China, USA, Russia all in a race for the moon colonization and domination I think in the future...
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                                                  • ABEHONEST
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by KVB
                                                    Abe I think the Mars exploration suit will have a boot that is more of a hiking boot, or mountain boot.

                                                    There are mountains on mars and the soil is rough.

                                                    Any parts we can compare to sand would be like sand but much rougher, sharp like glass shards. There hasn't been any water erosion in a long time and even though the wind can erode, the grains aren't as smooth as earth.

                                                    I would expect more of a hiking tread instead of the smooth moonboot that made prints like in the original post...


                                                    I have a different idea. i will tell all tomorrow.
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                                                    • ABEHONEST
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                      Moon is a strategic hot spot for sure for the taking. China, USA, Russia all in a race for the moon colonization and domination I think in the future...
                                                      And with Biden making these decisions? Whew! Good luck.
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                                                      • JIBBBY
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                                                        #28
                                                        Without gravity the human body falls apart and loses muscle mass in time and in a hurry. It's just not healthy. Mankind was not ment for long term space travel.

                                                        Even trying to live on the moon would be challenging for a long period of time. Mars has some gravity but nothing like earth also. The moon very little.

                                                        We need to invent artificial gravity for any of this long term planet exploration to work or to colonize. I forgot to mention that.
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                                                        • ABEHONEST
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                          Without gravity the human body falls apart and loses muscle mass in time and in a hurry. It's just not healthy. Mankind was not ment for long term space travel.

                                                          Even trying to live on the moon would be challenging for a long period of time. Mars has some gravity but nothing like earth also. The moon very little.

                                                          We need to invent artificial gravity for any of this long term planet exploration to work or to colonize. I forgot to mention that.
                                                          You know some science. Nice. I simply try to analyze the best fitting logic.
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                                                          • tommir99
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by TheGoldenGoose
                                                            Shaddup dummy.

                                                            Interesting comment. But it doesn't really have any substance to it (expect for the comedy factor), and it certainly didn't answer the question. See the bolded part.

                                                            "I don't believe they ever went to the moon. If they did, why don't they go there again?
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                                                            • ABEHONEST
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by tommir99
                                                              Interesting comment. But it doesn't really have any substance to it (expect for the comedy factor), and it certainly didn't answer the question. See the bolded part.

                                                              "I don't believe they ever went to the moon. If they did, why don't they go there again?
                                                              After studying the Moon with many trips there [what 3,4?] they assumed, since it was very expensive, dangerous, still, even at that time period, they wanted to bag a bigger fish in the universe.
                                                              And they've spent billions and billions looking for that bigger fish, with not what we peons believe was much success?

                                                              Now, with the Moon looking more appetizing in the 21st. century, they want to go back and see if they unestimated that lunar value?
                                                              And from the competition lined up, no doubt they did just that.

                                                              Me, I want to go to Mars in my lifetime. Maybe the idea of the Moon being a launch pad to other planets, is on the table, too?
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                                                              • ABEHONEST
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                                                                #32
                                                                I see no way, are there plans to have a human set foot on Mars. It must be a robot, first, because the danger to a human being the first to actually "step and leave a footprint," on the Red planet, no doubt, would be suicide. And the elaborate and outrageous expensive type suit, to try and protect him from cold, winds, and who knows what else in that environment could kill that individual?
                                                                Right now, of course, with our lack of knowledge of what MArs could do to a human being, yes, it would be suicidal to set one single man on Martian surface.

                                                                But, sending some robot soldiers in to do the "dirty works," first, seems to me the only possible way man can learn of all the pitfalls of those potential Martian hazards. And I am sure there are many, too.

                                                                So a robot footprint, is the only answer I can see and he will be man-made of course.
                                                                Something like these:
                                                                maybe nice looking round footsteps..

                                                                How many years for robots to first walk on Mars? That's a good one.
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                                                                • JIBBBY
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Space is a very dangerous place for mankind. We need to step up our technology. It's always a dice roll even going to the moon still..
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                                                                  • KVB
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    So abe it was a trick question?

                                                                    Man already has robots on mars, they have already made prints.

                                                                    I thought he were talking about human footprints, man's footprint.

                                                                    I didn't realize you meant "footprint" figuratively.

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                                                                    • ABEHONEST
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by KVB
                                                                      So abe it was a trick question?

                                                                      Man already has robots on mars, they have already made prints.

                                                                      I thought he were talking about human footprints, man's footprint.

                                                                      I didn't realize you meant "footprint" figuratively.

                                                                      A bit foggy, sure, if you read it differently and assumed it would be a man's footprint?
                                                                      I said, "would it much like this image," not necessarily made by a human.

                                                                      It would have been too obvious, if a human stepped on Mars with any shoe print, that would have been an obvious answer to the question.
                                                                      And by capitalizing the word "Man," would only be seen as Man made, not necessarily a single man.
                                                                      Image was the key word. And will it be"much like," would have been better to say, "similar." Yes.

                                                                      And I see how it could be taken as you understood it to be. And yes, I did want make you think deep.
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