It's not racism it's realism: NFL and NCAAF betting strategy

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  • dlowilly
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    • 11-09-16
    • 13862

    #141
    Originally posted by Salam
    I think a white qb/white coach vs. a white qb/black coach or black qb/white coach should be a .5 unit play.
    Maybe, but would be a ton of data to pour over and a bunch of headaches trying to get it
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    • dlowilly
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 11-09-16
      • 13862

      #142
      Probable plays this week (depending on starting QB):

      Arizona @ Colorado
      Maryland @ Rutgers
      UTSA @ UTEP
      USF @ UCONN

      Bye: Arizona State, FSU
      Last edited by dlowilly; 10-02-19, 12:17 AM.
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      • dlowilly
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 11-09-16
        • 13862

        #143
        10/5 Arizona Sumlin/Tate +2.5 W 35-30
        10/5 Maryland Locksley/Jackson -14.5 W 48-7
        10/5 UTSA Wilson/Narcisse +1 W 26-16
        10/5 USF Strong/McCloud -10.5 W 48-22

        13-11-1
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        • jtoler
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 12-17-13
          • 30967

          #144
          is the program breaking down or need to be tweaked these qbs are winning on the road like 6-0 last 6
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          • NoDraMa4YoMaMa
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 02-22-17
            • 864

            #145
            is this over?
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            • dlowilly
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 11-09-16
              • 13862

              #146
              Probable plays depending on starting QBs:

              BYU@South Florida
              FSU@Clemson
              UAB@UTSA
              Washington St.@Arizona State
              Washington@Arizona
              Maryland@Purdue
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              • Big Bear
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 11-01-11
                • 43253

                #147
                Originally posted by dlowilly
                There is a stereotype I have seen on here that fading a black head coach with a black starting QB is profitable

                I decided to back test this for the 2017 season

                For NFL and NCAAF division I teams there were 47 games played in 2017 in which there was a black head coach and a black starting QB. Their record ATS was 18-27-2

                So far in 2018 there have been 11 games under these same parameters and the record ATS so far is 3-7 (ASU has a half black head coach and half black QB so their games are multiplied by .5)

                Teams to monitor this season:

                -Browns under Hue Jackson with Tyrod Taylor starting

                -ASU under Herm Edwards with Manny Wilkins starting

                -Illini under Lovie Smith with AJ Bush starting

                -FSU under Willie Taggart with Deondre Francois starting

                -UT San Antonio under Frank Wilson with Cordale Grundy starting

                -Texas State under Everett Withers with Willie Jones III starting



                Save the howls of racism, we're here to win. I usually bet all the black underdogs vs. non black opponents in UFC btw
                racist AF
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                • StackinGreen
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 10-09-10
                  • 12140

                  #148
                  When people say this "R" word they need to define it, I don't even know what it means anymore. They just throw it around.

                  Saying that there aren't characteristics associated with groups is the essence of living in a world that isn't real.

                  If it weren't, why would we always be "grouping" people regardless of what political affiliation you consider yourself?
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                  • dlowilly
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 11-09-16
                    • 13862

                    #149
                    Originally posted by StackinGreen
                    When people say this "R" word they need to define it, I don't even know what it means anymore. They just throw it around.

                    Saying that there aren't characteristics associated with groups is the essence of living in a world that isn't real.

                    If it weren't, why would we always be "grouping" people regardless of what political affiliation you consider yourself?
                    If they defined it then it would limit their use of it as a self righteous tool (for whites) and catch all excuse (for blacks), so they won't.
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                    • mikejamm
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 08-24-09
                      • 11045

                      #150
                      Originally posted by dlowilly
                      10/5 Arizona Sumlin/Tate +2.5 W 35-30
                      10/5 Maryland Locksley/Jackson -14.5 W 48-7
                      10/5 UTSA Wilson/Narcisse +1 W 26-16
                      10/5 USF Strong/McCloud -10.5 W 48-22

                      13-11-1
                      13-11-1 You’re a racist piece of shit and your shitty dumb fuk “system” sucks! What happened little hitler, run outta black coaches and QB’s to run your fuk’in mouth against?

                      Another waste of space of this site. Idiots who listen or tail you might as well flush their money down the fuk’in toilet!
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                      • mikejamm
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 08-24-09
                        • 11045

                        #151
                        Originally posted by jtoler
                        is the program breaking down or need to be tweaked these qbs are winning on the road like 6-0 last 6
                        Originally posted by NoDraMa4YoMaMa
                        is this over?
                        Nah man, dblow “smoke up you ass” has got this bro, he’s got a “white QB’s wear’in too much black face grease paint” system he’s work’in on!
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                        • dlowilly
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 11-09-16
                          • 13862

                          #152
                          Originally posted by mikejamm
                          13-11-1 You’re a racist piece of shit and your shitty dumb fuk “system” sucks! What happened little hitler, run outta black coaches and QB’s to run your fuk’in mouth against?

                          Another waste of space of this site. Idiots who listen or tail you might as well flush their money down the fuk’in toilet!
                          Originally posted by mikejamm
                          Nah man, dblow “smoke up you ass” has got this bro, he’s got a “white QB’s wear’in too much black face grease paint” system he’s work’in on!
                          Look at this butthurt fool

                          Got so tired of lurking this thread waiting for this system to fail he lost control of his tourette syndrome

                          Up at 6am on a saturday trolling my thread...wow that's sad
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                          • dlowilly
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 11-09-16
                            • 13862

                            #153
                            Originally posted by dlowilly
                            10/5 Arizona Sumlin/Tate +2.5 W 35-30
                            10/5 Maryland Locksley/Jackson -14.5 W 48-7
                            10/5 UTSA Wilson/Narcisse +1 W 26-16
                            10/5 USF Strong/McCloud -10.5 W 48-22

                            13-11-1
                            14-11-1 (Maryland Locksley/Pigrome -4 L 14-40)
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                            • dlowilly
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 11-09-16
                              • 13862

                              #154
                              Originally posted by dlowilly
                              14-11-1 (Maryland Locksley/Pigrome -4 L 14-40)
                              14-12-1 (10/12 Arizona State Edwards/Daniels +1.5 W 38-34)
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                              • dlowilly
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 11-09-16
                                • 13862

                                #155
                                Originally posted by dlowilly
                                14-12-1 (10/12 Arizona State Edwards/Daniels +1.5 W 38-34)
                                15-12-1 (FSU Taggart/Blackman +25.5 L 14-45)
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                                • dlowilly
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 11-09-16
                                  • 13862

                                  #156
                                  Originally posted by dlowilly
                                  15-12-1 (FSU Taggart/Blackman +25.5 L 14-45)
                                  15-13-1 (10/12 USF Strong/McCloud +4.5 W 27-23)
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                                  • cincinnatikid513
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 11-23-17
                                    • 45360

                                    #157
                                    fsu might be off the list if hornibrook starts next game
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                                    • dlowilly
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 11-09-16
                                      • 13862

                                      #158
                                      Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                      fsu might be off the list if hornibrook starts next game
                                      Right, no play if Hornibrook starts
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                                      • dlowilly
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 11-09-16
                                        • 13862

                                        #159
                                        Originally posted by dlowilly
                                        15-13-1 (10/12 USF Strong/McCloud +4.5 W 27-23)
                                        16-13-1 (UTSA Wilson/Narcisse +12.5 L 14-33)

                                        Frank Wilson



                                        Lowell Narcisse

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                                        • dlowilly
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 11-09-16
                                          • 13862

                                          #160
                                          Originally posted by dlowilly
                                          16-13-1 (UTSA Wilson/Narcisse +12.5 L 14-33)
                                          17-13-1 (10/12 Arizona Sumlin/Tate +6 L 27-51)

                                          Kevin Sumlin



                                          Khalil Tate

                                          Last edited by dlowilly; 10-13-19, 09:02 AM.
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                                          • G Anon Dropout
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 05-24-19
                                            • 324

                                            #161
                                            BYU's coach isn't white.
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                                            • bigtymer56
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 07-31-12
                                              • 4742

                                              #162
                                              Originally posted by StackinGreen
                                              Is 32-24 racist? It's just another angle. If it didn't work, maybe he would be, but it seems the onus is on you now Mike, to explain why he's a winner doing this.

                                              Oh, and by the way, only a clown would mention the president in this, and then make all manner of lewd associations. It shows that you can't think for yourself, ultimately. Pretty sad.
                                              If this was sustainable one of the many racists and present on this site would've let us know.

                                              You really thing Dblow is the first genius to think "Hmm, black people are stupid, I can make money betting against them!!!"
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                                              • dlowilly
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 11-09-16
                                                • 13862

                                                #163
                                                Originally posted by G Anon Dropout
                                                BYU's coach isn't white.
                                                He isn't black either

                                                I welcome any input or if I'm missing a play though, it's hard to keep track of this
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                                                • dlowilly
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 11-09-16
                                                  • 13862

                                                  #164
                                                  Originally posted by bigtymer56
                                                  If this was sustainable one of the many racists and present on this site would've let us know.

                                                  You really thing Dblow is the first genius to think "Hmm, black people are stupid, I can make money betting against them!!!"
                                                  You butthurts make me laugh

                                                  I said in the first post that I bet on black underdogs in MMA

                                                  There are differences in the races. Today's "all races are the same" narrative is an easily provable lie, and when it comes to betting, that lie may be exploitable.
                                                  Last edited by dlowilly; 10-13-19, 09:10 AM.
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                                                  • dlowilly
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 11-09-16
                                                    • 13862

                                                    #165
                                                    Originally posted by mikejamm
                                                    Another waste of space of this site. Idiots who listen or tail you might as well flush their money down the fuk’in toilet!
                                                    Looks like mikejamm is up to his usual success rate in the Pick 6 contest this year

                                                    1965 mikejamm 16-19-1 45.71 % L 2 45.0 -7.78

                                                    I think I'd take 17-13-1 over that mess. How does he pick his losers? To be down that many units with that record it looks like he finds the worst bet with the most juice, and makes sure his 2x bet is the worst of all. Maybe he takes his bet sheet into work with him at the glory hole and just sees where stuff lands?
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                                                    • dlowilly
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 11-09-16
                                                      • 13862

                                                      #166
                                                      Probable plays for this week depending on starting QBs:

                                                      South Florida @ Navy
                                                      FSU @ Wake Forest
                                                      Rice @ UTSA
                                                      Arizona State @ Utah
                                                      Arizona @ USC
                                                      Indiana @ Maryland
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                                                      • Salam
                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                        • 08-26-13
                                                        • 397

                                                        #167
                                                        Thank you dlow for all that you do. I'm sure there are lots of people out there that have gotten rich off this system over the years.
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                                                        • Hman
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 11-04-17
                                                          • 21429

                                                          #168
                                                          I'm going to discuss this thread with Drew & genie and see if we can consider moving it back together players talk orat least the NFL/NCAA forums.

                                                          No promises though
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                                                          • dlowilly
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 11-09-16
                                                            • 13862

                                                            #169
                                                            Originally posted by dlowilly
                                                            17-13-1 (10/12 Arizona Sumlin/Tate +6 L 27-51)
                                                            18-13-1 (10/19 USF Strong/McCloud +15.5 L 3-35)

                                                            Charlie Strong



                                                            Jordan McCloud

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                                                            • gojetsgomoxies
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 09-04-12
                                                              • 4222

                                                              #170
                                                              i'm a bit torn on this.. probably see both sides.

                                                              something similar -b i know that black african world cup teams seems to perpetually disappoint. maybe expectations are now so low that they don't disappoint. but their results don't match their talent (especially given that they are faster than most other teams). but in soccer's case, there are non-racial explanations like the soccer feds are not supportive of the teams in these countries. (on second thought, maybe it is somewhat race-based effect)..

                                                              haven't black Qb's been killing it at times in NFL this season?

                                                              honestly, i'd probably look at HC more than QB in NFL or college. and easier to track.
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                                                              • dlowilly
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 11-09-16
                                                                • 13862

                                                                #171
                                                                Originally posted by dlowilly
                                                                18-13-1 (10/19 USF Strong/McCloud +15.5 L 3-35)
                                                                18-14-1 (10/19 Maryland Locksley/Pigrome +6.5 L 28-34)

                                                                Mike Locksley



                                                                Tyler Pigrome

                                                                Last edited by dlowilly; 10-19-19, 06:39 PM.
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                                                                • dlowilly
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 11-09-16
                                                                  • 13862

                                                                  #172
                                                                  18-15-1 (10/19 UTSA Jackson/Narcisse +5 W 31-27)

                                                                  Frank Wilson



                                                                  Lowell Narcisse

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                                                                  • dlowilly
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 11-09-16
                                                                    • 13862

                                                                    #173
                                                                    Originally posted by dlowilly
                                                                    18-15-1 (10/19 UTSA Jackson/Narcisse +5 W 31-27)
                                                                    19-15-1 (10/19 Arizona State Edwards/Daniels +14 L 3-21)

                                                                    Herm Edwards



                                                                    Jayden Daniels

                                                                    Last edited by dlowilly; 10-19-19, 08:42 PM.
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                                                                    • dlowilly
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 11-09-16
                                                                      • 13862

                                                                      #174
                                                                      Originally posted by dlowilly
                                                                      19-15-1 (10/19 Arizona State Edwards/Daniels +14 L 3-21)
                                                                      20-15-1 (10/19 FSU Taggart/Blackman -3 L 20-22)

                                                                      Willie Taggart



                                                                      James Blackman

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                                                                      • dlowilly
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 11-09-16
                                                                        • 13862

                                                                        #175
                                                                        Originally posted by dlowilly
                                                                        20-15-1 (10/19 FSU Taggart/Blackman -3 L 20-22)
                                                                        21-15-1 (10/19 Arizona Sumlin/Tate +11 L 14-41)

                                                                        Kevin Sumlin



                                                                        Khalil Tate

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