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  • lakerboy
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    • 04-02-09
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    #1
    Was United 93 shot down?
    Rumsfeld said it was
  • unde0087
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    #2
    Laker, we need a play not a fukin political thread pal
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    • juicername
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      #3
      Originally posted by unde0087
      Laker, we need a play not a fukin political thread pal
      Spot on unde. If I wanted to hear about this shyte there are other forums for that.
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      • lakerboy
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        #4
        Originally posted by unde0087
        Laker, we need a play not a fukin political thread pal
        I'm broke. I don't gamble anymore
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        • unde0087
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          #5
          Originally posted by lakerboy
          I'm broke. I don't gamble anymore
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          • jts1207
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            #6
            Why do canadians care
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            • Kermit
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              • 09-27-10
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              #7
              Witnesses said that they seen fireballs come from the plane after it was hit by a laser beam that came from one of those crazy windmills.
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              • Mackballs
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                • 12-01-16
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                #8
                Obviously
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                • ChuckyTheGoat
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                  • 04-04-11
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by lakerboy
                  I'm broke. I don't gamble anymore
                  Surely u jest.
                  Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                  • Eddy Munny
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                    • 08-13-13
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                    #10
                    Where's your fukkin whale tail, Lakeshow?
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                    • lakerboy
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Eddy Munny
                      Where's your fukkin whale tail, Lakeshow?
                      Buried in mendoza
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                      • thechaoz
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                        • 10-23-09
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                        #12
                        No.
                        .
                        It was highjacked. Planes were still scrambling. No residue, no witnesses, Knock it the penetrate off

                        The end.
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                        • Eddy Munny
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by lakerboy
                          Buried in mendoza
                          Reminds me of that old western tune by Conway Twitty "I Left My Whale Tail in Argentina."
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                          • thomorino
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                            #14
                            There's no question flight 93 was shot down.

                            3 facts.

                            1. The tail of the plane was found nearly a mile from where the plane crashed in skanksville.

                            2. Rumsfield said on 3 separate occassions the plane was shot down.

                            3. JAG attorneys (the navy's attorney's) admitted the plane was shot down at the military tribunal where the 22nd hijacker Moussauai was tried.

                            The cell phone calls to families were likely made on the ground, in 2001 it was very hard to get reception on a cell phone call well a plane was in the air.
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                            • VeggieDog
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
                              Surely u jest.
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                              • ChuckyTheGoat
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                                #16
                                Laker, how is life?

                                REmember when guys would be waiting on pins + needles for u to post your Pick Sheet for the nite? Then guys would roll a wheelbarrow of cash down to the local sportsbook to get action down.
                                Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                • The Kraken
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                                  • 12-25-11
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                                  #17
                                  Rumsfeld misspoke. If you listen to him, the context in which he speaking would’ve meant that the terrorists shot it down. He never said we shot it down
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                                  • lakerboy
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                                    • 04-02-09
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
                                    Laker, how is life?

                                    REmember when guys would be waiting on pins + needles for u to post your Pick Sheet for the nite? Then guys would roll a wheelbarrow of cash down to the local sportsbook to get action down.
                                    I'm great bro. Looking forward to the bash. To bad you wont be there
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                                    • The Kraken
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by thomorino
                                      There's no question flight 93 was shot down.

                                      3 facts.

                                      1. The tail of the plane was found nearly a mile from where the plane crashed in skanksville.

                                      2. Rumsfield said on 3 separate occassions the plane was shot down.

                                      3. JAG attorneys (the navy's attorney's) admitted the plane was shot down at the military tribunal where the 22nd hijacker Moussauai was tried.

                                      The cell phone calls to families were likely made on the ground, in 2001 it was very hard to get reception on a cell phone call well a plane was in the air.
                                      Only two of the calls made were by cell phone, the other 35 calls were made by seatback phones which worked fine. Those 35 calls were made by 13 people.

                                      Older cell phones have better transmitters and are capable of transmitting calls up to 10 miles.

                                      Just figured Id add a bit of truth to your post
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                                      • jts1207
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by lakerboy
                                        I'm great bro. Looking forward to the bash. To bad you wont be there
                                        Lol....you finally cry enough to get a room lmao
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                                        • ChuckyTheGoat
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by lakerboy
                                          I'm great bro. Looking forward to the bash. To bad you wont be there
                                          Have a fun trip. I'll see u down the road, pal.
                                          Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                          • chico2663
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by lakerboy
                                            Rumsfeld said it was
                                            yes
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                                            • thomorino
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by The Kraken
                                              Only two of the calls made were by cell phone, the other 35 calls were made by seatback phones which worked fine. Those 35 calls were made by 13 people.

                                              Older cell phones have better transmitters and are capable of transmitting calls up to 10 miles.

                                              Just figured Id add a bit of truth to your post
                                              The calls that were played publicly were cell phone calls and there's nothing that wasn't truthful in my post. There's not conspiracy here, the Feds knew the last plane was likely headed for capitol hill or the white house, they had to act and in an area that would minimize civilian deaths.
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                                              • The Kraken
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                                                • 12-25-11
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by thomorino
                                                The calls that were played publicly were cell phone calls and there's nothing that wasn't truthful in my post. There's not conspiracy here, the Feds knew the last plane was likely headed for capitol hill or the white house, they had to act and in an area that would minimize civilian deaths.
                                                Exactly, nobody would ever fault them for shooting down that plane, but that is not what happened. The debris field was small, all body parts within a 70 acre radius. Some pieces of paper and tiny fragments of sheet metal were found 1-2 miles away but not the tail.

                                                again, in 2001 the cell phones were older and had bigger transmitters. The 2 calls were made at 5000 ft, not even a mile

                                                Absolutely nothing points to that plane being shot down
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                                                • thomorino
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by The Kraken
                                                  Exactly, nobody would ever fault them for shooting down that plane, but that is not what happened. The debris field was small, all body parts within a 70 acre radius. Some pieces of paper and tiny fragments of sheet metal were found 1-2 miles away but not the tail.

                                                  again, in 2001 the cell phones were older and had bigger transmitters. The 2 calls were made at 5000 ft, not even a mile

                                                  Absolutely nothing points to that plane being shot down

                                                  The tail of the plane was found over a mile from the where the plane was shot down and there was no wreckage at the site, no tail or anything. Try and find a picture of plane debris in the field - you won't.

                                                  Rumsfield said on 3 occassions, in front of congress, on meet the press, and during an interview, that the plane was shot down. The prosecutor of the 22nd hijacker also publicly said the plane was shot down - its part of court record.


                                                  The tail of the plane was found over a mile from the where the plane was shot down and there was no wreckage at the site, no tail or anything. Try and find a picture of plane debris in the field - you won't.

                                                  Rumsfield said on 3 occassions, in front of congress, on meet the press, and during an interview, that the plane was shot down. The prosecutor of the 22nd hijacker also publicly said the plane was shot down - its part of court record.
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                                                  • Kermit
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                                                    #26
                                                    I live 15 miles from where the plane "crashed", and when it happened, the reasonable theory was that it was justifiably shot down, which explains why debris was found so far away from the actual "Impact zone" as it would have already been flying through the air.
                                                    Last edited by Kermit; 08-11-18, 01:02 AM.
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                                                    • Kermit
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by thomorino

                                                      Rumsfield said on 3 occassions, in front of congress, on meet the press, and during an interview, that the plane was shot down. The prosecutor of the 22nd hijacker also publicly said the plane was shot down - its part of court record.
                                                      Local residents on the news that had seen the plane in the air claimed that they had seen fireballs coming from it prior to it crashing.
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                                                      • thomorino
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                                                        #28
                                                        There were several debris sites up to 8 miles from where the plane crash - the comment that there was only minor debris within a mile of the crash is completely false.

                                                        A second debris field was around Indian Lake about 3 miles from the crash scene. Some debris was in the lake and some was adjacent to the lake. "More debris from the plane was found in New Baltimore, some 8 miles away from the crash. "State police and the FBI initially said they didn't want to speculate whether the debris was from the crash, or if the plane could have broken up in midair." 1
                                                        Additionally, Flight 93's debris field covered anywhere from three to six miles and, as CNN reported, pieces of the plane were found six to eight miles from the main impact area: "Authorities also said another debris site had been cordoned off six to eight miles away from the original crash debris site." 2
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                                                        • Kermit
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by thomorino
                                                          There were several debris sites up to 8 miles from where the plane crash - the comment that there was only minor debris within a mile of the crash is completely false.

                                                          A second debris field was around Indian Lake about 3 miles from the crash scene. Some debris was in the lake and some was adjacent to the lake. "More debris from the plane was found in New Baltimore, some 8 miles away from the crash. "State police and the FBI initially said they didn't want to speculate whether the debris was from the crash, or if the plane could have broken up in midair." 1
                                                          Additionally, Flight 93's debris field covered anywhere from three to six miles and, as CNN reported, pieces of the plane were found six to eight miles from the main impact area: "Authorities also said another debris site had been cordoned off six to eight miles away from the original crash debris site." 2
                                                          Exactly. There is no way that debris could have traveled that far unless it had already broken away from the plane while it was traveling through the air at a high speed. That shit didn't bounce and fly 3 miles after it hit the ground.
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                                                          • Auto Donk
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                                                            #30
                                                            sounds like the camel jockey's crashed it, from the voice recorder......

                                                            perhaps their violent jerking of the plane to put it down caused the tail to break off?

                                                            no mention of any prosecutor saying it was shot down, either.....

                                                            but does seem odd to have a debris field a mile or miles away from the crash site.....

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                                                            • The Kraken
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                                                              • 12-25-11
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                                                              #31
                                                              First off, ask yourselves why would our gov’t try and hide the fact they shot this plane down? There is no good explanation. Everyone would have understood it was justified. If our military had shot the plane down there would’ve been no reason to deny it. As it turns out, there wasn’t even a fighter jet in the area when the plane went down. The fighter jets that were eventually able to get airborn did so without ammunition and the plan was to ram the plane. However by the time those two jets actually got airborne, the plane had already crashed.

                                                              Second, this “debris” field you all speak of was NOT people or body parts, it was pieces of paper and tiny pieces of sheet metal. There was a 10-15 mph wind that day fully capable of moving bits of paperbmiles from the wreckage, and thats exactly what happened. All body parts were found within a 70 acre radius to the crash site, the black box was found 25ft deep.

                                                              This was not a plane blown apart in the sky, it nosedived at 600mph straight into earth
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                                                              • Kermit
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Auto Donk
                                                                sounds like the camel jockey's crashed it, from the voice recorder......

                                                                perhaps their violent jerking of the plane to put it down caused the tail to break off?

                                                                no mention of any prosecutor saying it was shot down, either.....

                                                                but does seem odd to have a debris field a mile or miles away from the crash site.....

                                                                https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/...ts-2499533.php
                                                                When I had heard that they found shit clear over at Indian lake, I couldn't believe it.
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                                                                • The Kraken
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Auto Donk
                                                                  sounds like the camel jockey's crashed it, from the voice recorder......

                                                                  perhaps their violent jerking of the plane to put it down caused the tail to break off?

                                                                  no mention of any prosecutor saying it was shot down, either.....

                                                                  but does seem odd to have a debris field a mile or miles away from the crash site.....

                                                                  https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/...ts-2499533.php
                                                                  Read what that “debris field” conisisted of. I think they even considered a piece of nylon fabric as part of the debris field, the fukking wind had blown it a mile or two down the road.

                                                                  Any debris field consistent with a plane blown out of the sky would include human body parts scattered over a very large area, that wasnt the case.
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                                                                  • Kermit
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by The Kraken
                                                                    First off, ask yourselves why would our gov’t try and hide the fact they shot this plane down?
                                                                    After all of the shit that just happened, I don't know if most American citizens could handle that kind of information. I really want to think that it just crashed, but I honestly don't think that it did. I am no conspiracy guy, but being from that area, the whole "Crashed in the middle of nowhere" theory doesn't fly.
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                                                                    • Kermit
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by The Kraken
                                                                      Read what that “debris field” conisisted of. I think they even considered a piece of nylon fabric as part of the debris field, the fukking wind had blown it a mile or two down the road.

                                                                      Any debris field consistent with a plane blown out of the sky would include human body parts scattered over a very large area, that wasnt the case.
                                                                      No one thinks that it was "Blown up in the sky" but instead "Brought Down"
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