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Russians normally would be ease dropping on a major event to spy on the military activity, not individuals, but that's another story.
All i was insinuating is sometimes God gives warnings to straighten people out and maybe you had recieved your fair share. If you were raised Catholic you know the activity you talk about is not biblically acceptable.Comment -
Sourtwist, the whole thing is just the oddest operation I've ever heard of. I watched the community briefing couple months ago with the PIO. Weird is all i can think of. Whole operation makes no sense. Why don't they keep themselves at Fort AP hill, Va.
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You're more experienced in this field than me, I have a question and your opinion is wanted.
Do you think that one of the preliminary actions of jade helm was to have open borders with Mexico? What I mean is that the people in those states can travel more freely than people like myself on the east coast, I'm on long Island, and any kind of serious attack over here by NYC, it would be very easy to isolate millions of people on the east coast. The states closest to Mexico, if they needed to leave abruptly in a SHTF situation, more military coverage would be needed.
I've been trying to make some sense out of this since March when I first heard about it, but nothing adds up. I will say for sure, something is bound to happen. All of the smokescreens about the trannies and gays, and the confederate flag after the shooting, along with the race wars all have happened in an extremely short period of time. What have they been doing in the meantime?
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Seems like a lot of fuss about what's likely nothing special. Not the first exercise like this by a long shot, choice of territory and declaring someof the area 'hostile' is a core concept behind exercises, and they're not going to live-tweet play by plays when practicing tactics they hope to use in war. Ease of access to information makes it easy for conspiracy nuts to overreact. Doesn't mean it's impossible for there to be an ulterior motive, but leaping to that conclusion without evidence is just wishful thinking.Comment -
Triple, can you remind me of a time that an exercise like this has taken place? What about all of the things that have been a distraction leading up to it?
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Just months ago, the New York Fed announced emergency measures to set up
a temporary office in Chicago in case of a natural disaster in New York City.
In case anyone hasn't been paying attention, all you have to do is go over to You Tube
and search September 23 or Canary Islands tsunami.
Just as likely is that they are training for the destruction of the Pacific West Coast
from British Columbia down to Northern California. Just yesterday on Fox News
this was discussed. Jade Helm is preparation for mass civilian unrest. Martial Law
is not necessarily a government takeover, but more like a benign necessity to help
the American people maintain order and save lives in the event of a mass casualty event.
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Good questions sour. I don't know your particular situation, but i'd get off of LI if i were you. If it's not feasible in a total collapse situation or bio-outbreak get a sturdy boat and go further East or navigate towards either the Gulf or Carolinas, get off and assess the situation.
The jade helm operation patch is full of symbolism akin to evil, like so many other patches that's issued by DOD.
The one symbol on the JH-15 patch that's odd is the sabot shoe. Germans used the wood clog to jam gears in the dutch machines and gear boxes to sabotage the equipment. I could break the patch down further, but sabatoge is the name of the game.
A Mia Kelly has been working on JH-15 for awhile now, look her up. Friend sent me something about her couple months ago. By her linkedin page you'd think this was a cyber event, but the PIO has stated this event will involve military posing as citizens and basically a military uniformed division looking for the bad guy actors…..So, which is it?
I don't think anything massive will happen with this event. Kinda like the difference between 12-22-1913 and 12-23-1913. On the twenty third day of December 1913 people went to bed and the U.S. government signed over the power of the purse to foreign business people and the great devaluation of the U.S. dollar began, even though our fore-fathers warned of allowing Central Banks to issue currency. The Americans woke up on Christmas Eve hustling and bustling with the holiday and didn't even know they got ******. Same will be with JH-15. This whole JH-15 is a mystery, but i think the effects will be felt very soon.
Pray to the Lord and don't ever take shit.
I'm not really up to date on the Wal-Mart situation, but WM is and has been in bed with evil in Federal government for many, MANY years.Comment -
Personally i can deal with a skirt chaser than i can from some homosexual degenerate.
Yes, Donk bible is clear about Lust. fornication, screwing married women etc.
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If I remember right. Before 9-11, they trained for such a scenario? I believe it was a month before?
Not the fire companies, but the air force I believe, had excersizes to intercept aircraft over NY.
Sometimes it's coincidence that they train for a mission and it comes true.
Don't remember the specifics, but an airport in the midwest trained for an aircraft crash. Complete with actors
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I knew this was coming years ago..........
Why do you think I decided to abruptly quit my raving against the machine?
I am Officially politically retired............
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Its called contingency plans. Pretty much any scenario you can think of has been game planned...just because one or two take place doesn;t mean it was staged.
Jade Helm is just a comprehensive drill on what the same units do solo year round. Hell the Navy's RIMPAC is larger and should scare more people than Jade Helm if people are worried about global power takeover/influence or whatever fear they have. Nothing to see boys...just business as usual.
As usual though, people like to be entertained not be informed so the conspiracy nuts are having a ball with this one till its over in Sept. I got a text from a buddy at Camp Shelby who is involved in the exercise a 2 am this morning....standing around with the OPFOR actors (bad guys) saying they were ready to raid the girls houses at the nearby campus when they have sorority rush next month at Southern Miss
Be afraid, be very afraid
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Did someone hack your account? Your worst post ever.Its called contingency plans. Pretty much any scenario you can think of has been game planned...just because one or two take place doesn;t mean it was staged.
Jade Helm is just a comprehensive drill on what the same units do solo year round. Hell the Navy's RIMPAC is larger and should scare more people than Jade Helm if people are worried about global power takeover/influence or whatever fear they have. Nothing to see boys...just business as usual.
As usual though, people like to be entertained not be informed so the conspiracy nuts are having a ball with this one till its over in Sept. I got a text from a buddy at Camp Shelby who is involved in the exercise a 2 am this morning....standing around with the OPFOR actors (bad guys) saying they were ready to raid the girls houses at the nearby campus when they have sorority rush next month at Southern Miss Be afraid, be very afraidComment -
Raiding the female sorority house is a much more worthwhile mission compared to what were told.Its called contingency plans. Pretty much any scenario you can think of has been game planned...just because one or two take place doesn;t mean it was staged.
Jade Helm is just a comprehensive drill on what the same units do solo year round. Hell the Navy's RIMPAC is larger and should scare more people than Jade Helm if people are worried about global power takeover/influence or whatever fear they have. Nothing to see boys...just business as usual.
As usual though, people like to be entertained not be informed so the conspiracy nuts are having a ball with this one till its over in Sept. I got a text from a buddy at Camp Shelby who is involved in the exercise a 2 am this morning....standing around with the OPFOR actors (bad guys) saying they were ready to raid the girls houses at the nearby campus when they have sorority rush next month at Southern Miss Be afraid, be very afraid
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Nah man, I'm all with you on the sham financial system and most other shady govt dealings and scams but when it comes to the martial law stuff...while I'm sure Obama and other players would LOVE the thought of it....its simply not feasible. Not like Jade Helm or another mass takeover could do at least. More holes in the theory than swiss cheese. The numbers, players, tactics, infrastructure and support elements don't hold up whatsoever. You'd have to have some mass pandemic or rolled out catastrophe that wipes out NYC and a few other major cities somehow followed by months of 'we're here to help' operations and at the same time keeping the military used in the dark about the true final intent to even stand a small % chance of it ever really coming true. This ain't Hollywood
Honestly though...these things have been going on for decades...not exactly sure how this ONE exercise became so trendy to watch. Perfect example....Camp Shelby I mentioned above, its a big Natl Guard training post in Mississippi near the coast...the same unit working Jade Helm there right now has been doing 'in town' work practicing governmental takeover and hostage tactics with local officials and law enforcement for years, before Bush even. Both 2nd and 3rd BN 20th Special Forces Groups - 3rd Batt is down in Florida outside Jax but they train together a lot. RIMPAC for the Navy has been doing air and sea battles with tons of countries every few years now for I don't know how long but I've heard some AW guys on the P-3's talk of their stuff in it forever. I went to IOBC and IBOLC with officers from the Syrian and Georgian army on Fort Benning back in 2006...that could be looked at as 'conspiracy: why are foreign troops being trained by the U.S. military, false flag coming?' and so forth. So Jade Helm is nothing new....just been overhyped which has made the military comment on it more...which in turn churns up more controversy because when they say what the training entails, it is new to the average Joe who then gets spooked and can't believe or understand why such training is necessary. It's just a debate that gets us all nowhere man.....so yes the Govt lies (Pat Tillman, Jessica Lynch, names and origins of terrorst groups, AQ in Iraq...and many many more) but this isn't one of those times.Comment -
Fair enough itchy, you're one of the posters that I actually pay attention to.Comment -
Training with DARPA inside USA, no issues, all is good Bravo Sierra.
You ever train with DARPA?
Somehow the most secretive agency that I know worries very high ups had you saying same as training for Iraq, really? Ok, pickle doodle do.Comment -
So far nobody here has given me anything convincing as far as how this whole thing is something sinister being turned on fellow Americans.
- There are "distractions", but you could say that about any news event that happens at any time. We're learning more and more how scummy and manipulative media is, and somehow that seems to make current news more of a smokescreen than before though? Not buying it.
- DARPA is involved. Okay, so what? If DARPA and the La Le Lu Le Lo were both involved, then we'd have some major shit on our hands! (I doubt anyone is going to get that reference without looking it up)
- There are top secret military drills going on all the time right outside my door at Area 51 every day. And some of them involve (gasp!) computers too!! What sets this apart?
- Why do you think there's no real chance this is NOT just something to protect us against present and future adversaries down the road?
- Back to DARPA and the like, do you feel like top secret agencies and organizations are generally good for the public or bad? Why?
I'm playing a bit of Dumb Dora and devil's advocate here, there are parts of your arguments I agree with and understand. But overall, there's nothing really convincing here IMO. Speculation is great and all, but you're going to need more than that to convince anyone that isn't already full blast on the conspiracy side.
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Another ad hominem attack against the so called "conspiracy nuts".
Did you know that in 1967 after the J.F.K. assasination the C.I.A sent a directive (CIA Document #1035-960) to each of it's bureaus outlining a plan of action to discredit anyone who disagreed with the findings of the Warren Report? Google the document and read what their directives entailed:
- [t]o employ propaganda assets to [negate] and refute the attacks of the critics. Book reviews and feature articles are particularly appropriate for this purpose.”
The C.I.A didn't invent the term but they certainly lead the charge when it comes to discrediting all dissenting information. In fact they were so successful that it's parroted by anyone who is unwilling or afraid to question events to this day.
Your problem is that you rely on the lens they provide you to examine situations. If the military/some government agency/whomever intentially hide/obfuscate or destroy evidence all competing information is automatically considered "conspiracy". Even when evidence exists in the form of eye witness accounts often they are still discredited as unreliable by "experts" in courts of law/media. How do you expect to win the game when the game is rigged?
So yes people are right to be concerned when they see for example 50 cal live fire from helicoptors downtown where they live like when it happened in Flint Michigan:
Or they read about Wal-Marts being retrofitted like intermin camps and stories come out from contractors/employees who are concerned about what they are doing.
You take your kids out for some ice cream and have to explain to their scared faces why there are military vehicles riding through your neighborhood when even you don't know yourself. Then you try to take them to the park but wait you can't! "Just wait 10 minutes honey until that blackhawk helicopter and those troops are finished their snatch n'grab exercise then you can play on the swings.
The fact is not everyone is a "nut" even if it's convient to think so. Wishful thinking anyone?
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Basing that on the experience of people I'm close with who've participated in these, and my own experience in similar simulations. I have little trust in the federal governenment, but it's extremely unlikely anything like this would succeed at any of the various goals some of the crazier folks are attributing to it. Government is corrupt and misguided, but usually not dumb on a large scale. For the rest, Itchy pretty much nailed it.Comment -
Heh, get indignant all you'd like. As I've said plenty of times before, I don't blindly trust the government; trying to tell me I do just makes you look silly. The fact that they do shady things isn't proof that every conspiracy dreamed up should somehow be free from criticism and not have to provide evidence for the claims. When people imply ulterior motives that are not only unproven but unachievable, their credibility on this particular issue is damaged, and even those of us who ate extremely distrustful of the feds can rightly call these people nuts. Bringing other incidents and cover ups into it doesn't have any bearing.Another ad hominem attack against the so alled "conspiracy nuts".
Did you know that in 1967 after the J.F.K. assasination the C.I.A sent a directive (CIA Document #1035-960) to each of it's bureaus outlining a plan of action to discredit anyone who disagreed with the findings of the Warren Report? Google the document and read what their directives entailed:
- [t]o employ propaganda assets to [negate] and refute the attacks of the critics. Book reviews and feature articles are particularly appropriate for this purpose.”
The C.I.A didn't invent the term but they certainly lead the charge when it comes to discrediting all dissenting information. In fact they were so successful that it's parroted by anyone who is unwilling or afraid to question events to this day.
Your problem is that you rely on the lens they provide you to examine situations. If the military/some government agency/whomever intentially hide/obfuscate or destroy evidence all competing information is automatically considered "conspiracy". Even when evidence exists in the form of eye witness accounts often they are still discredited as unreliable by "experts" in courts of law/media. How do you expect to win the game when the game is rigged?
So yes people are right to be concerned when they see for example 50 cal live fire from helicoptors downtown where they live like when it happened in Flint Michigan:
Or they read about Wal-Marts being retrofitted like intermin camps and stories come out from contractors/employees who are concerned about what they are doing.
You take your kids out for some ice cream and have to explain to their scared faces why there are military vehicles riding through your neighborhood when even you don't know yourself. Then you try to take them to the park but wait you can't! "Just wait 10 minutes honey until that blackhawk helicopter and those troops are finished their snatch n'grab exercise then you can play on the swings.
The fact is not everyone is a "nut" even if it's convient to think so. Wishful thinking anyone?
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Another ad hominem attack against the so called "conspiracy nuts".
Did you know that in 1967 after the J.F.K. assasination the C.I.A sent a directive (CIA Document #1035-960) to each of it's bureaus outlining a plan of action to discredit anyone who disagreed with the findings of the Warren Report? Google the document and read what their directives entailed:
- [t]o employ propaganda assets to [negate] and refute the attacks of the critics. Book reviews and feature articles are particularly appropriate for this purpose.”
The C.I.A didn't invent the term but they certainly lead the charge when it comes to discrediting all dissenting information. In fact they were so successful that it's parroted by anyone who is unwilling or afraid to question events to this day.
Your problem is that you rely on the lens they provide you to examine situations. If the military/some government agency/whomever intentially hide/obfuscate or destroy evidence all competing information is automatically considered "conspiracy". Even when evidence exists in the form of eye witness accounts often they are still discredited as unreliable by "experts" in courts of law/media. How do you expect to win the game when the game is rigged?
So yes people are right to be concerned when they see for example 50 cal live fire from helicoptors downtown where they live like when it happened in Flint Michigan:
Or they read about Wal-Marts being retrofitted like intermin camps and stories come out from contractors/employees who are concerned about what they are doing.
You take your kids out for some ice cream and have to explain to their scared faces why there are military vehicles riding through your neighborhood when even you don't know yourself. Then you try to take them to the park but wait you can't! "Just wait 10 minutes honey until that blackhawk helicopter and those troops are finished their snatch n'grab exercise then you can play on the swings.
The fact is not everyone is a "nut" even if it's convient to think so. Wishful thinking anyone?
Nice write up JB. Above video was taken in my hometown. I can tell anybody here this training scenarios are 100% unnecessary in the public domain. Outside of Fort AP hill, Virginia, bases exist that are so amazing and life-like…….
Anybody downplaying these exercises can take a carte blanche approach, refuting these types would mean somebody who knows would have to say things they're not suppose to. People who may be in the know and want to say the truth has hands tied. Really comes down to individuals doing homework and show memorandums, videos, relying a bit on private investigative journalist etc.
As Smedley Butler said in a paraphrase 'It's a racket'
I'm out fellas. Good-luck and as someone once told me; Treat everybody nicely, fairly and smile, but always be ready to kill someone in a seconds notice'
To the bastards who wish bad on my country, both politicians and jihadist. You will loose a physical war and the spiritual war with us.
If things pop off, go after the root of the problem and arrest…….a politician who have allowed these attacks to happen in first place. Jihadist just doing what jihadist do. Unfortunately the white Christian male is public enemy #1 right now and a bit surprised at the attack at Chattanooga, Tn.
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well, I guess technically they aren't coming for most of you because most of you are sheep who will fall in line because that is who you are; cowards. But me though, they know I won't go down without a fight.Comment
