Every human is a walking ATM machine in Monsanto and Phizer's Pharmacia LLC's eyes.

[PAULYPOKER]

Has Big Pharma caused us mitochondrial damage?

Has Big Pharma casued us collateral damage? or is this this just conspiracybabble?

“Mitochondrial damage is now understood to play a role in a wide range of seemingly unrelated disorders such as schizophrenia, diabetes, Parkinson’s disease, chronic fatigue syndrome, and nonalcoholic steatohepatitis. Recently it has become known that iatrogenic (physician or treatment-caused) mitochondrial damage explains many adverse reactions from medications.” – John Neustadt, MD and Steven Pieczenik, MD

“All classes of psychotropic drugs have been documented to damage mitochondria, as have statin medications, analgesics such as acetaminophen, and many others.” – John Neustadt, MD and Steven Pieczenik, MD

http://www.globalresearch.ca/mitocho...pharma/5447650

It makes sense since Monsanto and Phizer has astronomically huge profits to gain by making people sick through food and pharmaceutical needs.

every human is a walking ATM machine in Monsanto and Phizer's Pharmacia LLC's eyes.

Corporate Relationships Among Monsanto Company ...
www.monsanto.com › Who We Are › Company History
Monsanto
Former Monsanto is today known as Pharmacia LLC. Pharmacia is now a wholly owned subsidiary of Pfizer Inc., which operates the Pharmaceuticals Business.

[Big Bear]

what if the drug makes your symptoms go away?

[The Kraken]

Atrial Fibrillation causes clots to develop in the heart which can become dislodged and cause strokes. This happens about 120-130k times per year. Many die or become 100% disabled from the stroke.

Up until about 10 years ago, Coumadin was the best way to prevent these strokes by making the blood very thin. Sometimes too thin and people died from that.

So about a decade ago, doctors figured out a much, much better way to prevent strokes in these patients. During studies it proved amazing, showing to be 80% better and more effective than Coumadin.

The device was all set for FDA approval. This is a once in a lifetime type of development.

Well, a few years before this device was ready to roll out, a new line of drugs began competing with Coumadin. Drugs like Xarelto (Janssen) and Eliquis (Bristol-Meyers Squib) got FDA approval.

So this new device, called a watchman device by Boston Scientific, had been in trials, destroyed Coumadin and had amazing outcomes, it was ready to be approved for FDA approval.

Well, Janssen and Bristol-Meyer Squibb pitch a fukking fit. They go to the FDA and argue "Well, that device may be superior to Coumadin but hasn't been shown to be either non-inferior nor superior to our drugs" so the FDA shelves the watchman device and makes them go back through the studies to show non-inferiority and superiority to Xarelto and Eliquis. Neither Eliquis nor Xarelto had shown to be superior to Coumadin and Coumadin is still the most commonly used anticoagulant. Yet these fukkers won on a technicality.

This took years to accomplish. Many lives were lost because of this greed by big pharm. Many lives destroyed due to someone having a stroke that could have likely been prevented, many families buried in debt now because Janssen and Bristol wants your money than they want your safety.

This happens every year, every month, every day.

[gauchojake]

Check your PT/INR bro

[The Kraken]

Gaucho are you a doctor

[chipper]

Excellent insight Kraken!

[gauchojake]

Gaucho are you a doctor

no but but I should have been. I have been in medical sales for a pretty long time.

[PAULYPOKER]

Ban Monsanto's toxic Roundup herbicide on federal land ...

https://www.credomobilize.com/.../ban-monsanto-s-toxic-roundup-herbi...

The unchecked spraying of glyphosate, the main ingredient in Monsanto's Roundup herbicide, has contributed to an alarming decline in the monarch butterfly ...

[PAULYPOKER]

Published on May 8, 2015
Isobel Yeung explored the growth of Monsanto's pestacide resistant GMOs and its consequences. This is her debrief from Season 3 Episode 9 of VICE on HBO.

We're now deep into the third season of our show VICE on HBO. Among other stories, we've taken a look at climate change in Antarctica, American militias taking the law into their own hands, and the cocaine highway that leads from the streets of Venezuela to the sinuses of European teenagers.

We just aired a new episode where host Isobel Yeung traced the path of genetically modified super-crops from the headquarters of American agribusiness titan Monsanto to the soy fields of Paraguay, and visits the Svalbard Global Seed Vault, high in the Arctic, to see what's truly at stake when humans try to improve on nature. We sat down with Yeung to debrief the trip—check it out above.

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[The Kraken]

no but but I should have been. I have been in medical sales for a pretty long time.

Gauch I'm in the process of joining the "industry" side of things

Have my final interview with J&J next week. Between me and one other gal.

[rkelly110]

Nice write up on the blood thinners Krak, but you failed to name the device. I use aspirin to thin my blood.

[Triple_D_Bet]

Atrial Fibrillation causes clots to develop in the heart which can become dislodged and cause strokes. This happens about 120-130k times per year. Many die or become 100% disabled from the stroke.

Up until about 10 years ago, Coumadin was the best way to prevent these strokes by making the blood very thin. Sometimes too thin and people died from that.

So about a decade ago, doctors figured out a much, much better way to prevent strokes in these patients. During studies it proved amazing, showing to be 80% better and more effective than Coumadin.

The device was all set for FDA approval. This is a once in a lifetime type of development.

Well, a few years before this device was ready to roll out, a new line of drugs began competing with Coumadin. Drugs like Xarelto (Janssen) and Eliquis (Bristol-Meyers Squib) got FDA approval.

So this new device, called a watchman device by Boston Scientific, had been in trials, destroyed Coumadin and had amazing outcomes, it was ready to be approved for FDA approval.

Well, Janssen and Bristol-Meyer Squibb pitch a fukking fit. They go to the FDA and argue "Well, that device may be superior to Coumadin but hasn't been shown to be either non-inferior nor superior to our drugs" so the FDA shelves the watchman device and makes them go back through the studies to show non-inferiority and superiority to Xarelto and Eliquis. Neither Eliquis nor Xarelto had shown to be superior to Coumadin and Coumadin is still the most commonly used anticoagulant. Yet these fukkers won on a technicality.

This took years to accomplish. Many lives were lost because of this greed by big pharm. Many lives destroyed due to someone having a stroke that could have likely been prevented, many families buried in debt now because Janssen and Bristol wants your money than they want your safety.

This happens every year, every month, every day.

It happens, but you have to put the blame where it's due imo. Businesses are going to compete to make money and use every advantage they can in environment they're provided; people may say "shame on them", but their shareholders (including the same middle class americans who raise a stink) demand this sort of behavior as it results in profit. The blame properly belongs on the american people who support the nightmare of regulations that protect these businesses and stifle innovation and choice. Extremely common in a wide range of devices that fall under the FDAs jurisdiction; a device cost 10,000% more because the FDA requires it be proven 99.999% reliable instead of 99.9% for 1/100th the price (allowing the purchase of enough backups to restore the original overall reliability at a tiny fraction of the cost). Competition is good for the consumer, but as happens every time the public decides to invest this kind of regulatory ability in a government entity, all it does is jack the price up and price out the innovating competition.

Sad stuff, but it isn't going to change by protesting the companies as so many try to do...they'll only be replaced by other companies. Only way to change the effect is to remove the cause: let the market and private, voluntary entities do the regulation and certification.

[ttwarrior1]

cayenne is all you need

[The Kraken]

It happens, but you have to put the blame where it's due imo. Businesses are going to compete to make money and use every advantage they can in environment they're provided; people may say "shame on them", but their shareholders (including the same middle class americans who raise a stink) demand this sort of behavior as it results in profit. The blame properly belongs on the american people who support the nightmare of regulations that protect these businesses and stifle innovation and choice. Extremely common in a wide range of devices that fall under the FDAs jurisdiction; a device cost 10,000% more because the FDA requires it be proven 99.999% reliable instead of 99.9% for 1/100th the price (allowing the purchase of enough backups to restore the original overall reliability at a tiny fraction of the cost). Competition is good for the consumer, but as happens every time the public decides to invest this kind of regulatory ability in a government entity, all it does is jack the price up and price out the innovating competition.

Sad stuff, but it isn't going to change by protesting the companies as so many try to do...they'll only be replaced by other companies. Only way to change the effect is to remove the cause: let the market and private, voluntary entities do the regulation and certification.

That's a fine line as private industries have an atrocious history of self-regulation, hence the need for governmental regulation. It's a great idea in theory but I'm not sure it's practical, even if it's a "voluntary" entity doing the regulation.

Companies have time and time again proven they will place their bottom line ahead of the consumer.

It reminds me of doctors and their complaints about governmental regulation and the always decreasing reimbursements. They blame politicians and different ineffective governmental agencies as the root cause of this. But what they fail to admit is that they've been their own worst enemy all along. They're the reason the government stepped in and regulated their precious industry, they're the reason medicare reimbursement is at an all time low. Back in the 80's ER doctors were admitting nearly 100% of ER patients. Why? Because medicare reimbursement was nearly 100%. Medical necessity be damned, they put the almighty dollar ahead of ethics. Patients weren't really feeling the squeeze because Uncle Sam picked up the tab but it became unsustainable. It only got worse in the 90's as specialists exploded and with advances in technology , the same MD's began ordering every test in the book and these tests weren't cheap.

The most recent example was cardiologists. Any patient that came to their clinic with chest pain got an x-ray, labs, echo and thallium stress test. The hospital I worked at (physician owned) was performing nearly 80 stress tests per day and billing $1500-1700 a pop. At the time, reimbursement was high for these. And a certain number of these were inconclusive or borderline, so the cardiologist sent the patient for a heart catheterization. A good number of these were clean. So in the end, the gov't again slashed reimbursement for heart caths and stress tests because cardiologists were abusing the system.

Same principle. Ultimately, doctors have shown the inability for self-policing or self-regulation. Many of the doctors I worked with are 1%'ers. They exploited and abused the system. Newer physicians will never have the same opportunities as their predecessors.

With that said, I agree it's multifactorial in cause and the FDA is part of the problem.

Either way, the solution is not an easy one and there will never be a perfect system.

[The Kraken]

cayenne is all you need

So if we all eat cayenne, we will be healthy and ailment free?

[Triple_D_Bet]

That's a fine line as private industries have an atrocious history of self-regulation, hence the need for governmental regulation. It's a great idea in theory but I'm not sure it's practical, even if it's a "voluntary" entity doing the regulation.

Companies have time and time again proven they will place their bottom line ahead of the consumer.

It reminds me of doctors and their complaints about governmental regulation and the always decreasing reimbursements. They blame politicians and different ineffective governmental agencies as the root cause of this. But what they fail to admit is that they've been their own worst enemy all along. They're the reason the government stepped in and regulated their precious industry, they're the reason medicare reimbursement is at an all time low. Back in the 80's ER doctors were admitting nearly 100% of ER patients. Why? Because medicare reimbursement was nearly 100%. Medical necessity be damned, they put the almighty dollar ahead of ethics. Patients weren't really feeling the squeeze because Uncle Sam picked up the tab but it became unsustainable. It only got worse in the 90's as specialists exploded and with advances in technology , the same MD's began ordering every test in the book and these tests weren't cheap.

The most recent example was cardiologists. Any patient that came to their clinic with chest pain got an x-ray, labs, echo and thallium stress test. The hospital I worked at (physician owned) was performing nearly 80 stress tests per day and billing $1500-1700 a pop. At the time, reimbursement was high for these. And a certain number of these were inconclusive or borderline, so the cardiologist sent the patient for a heart catheterization. A good number of these were clean. So in the end, the gov't again slashed reimbursement for heart caths and stress tests because cardiologists were abusing the system.

Same principle. Ultimately, doctors have shown the inability for self-policing or self-regulation. Many of the doctors I worked with are 1%'ers. They exploited and abused the system. Newer physicians will never have the same opportunities as their predecessors.

With that said, I agree it's multifactorial in cause and the FDA is part of the problem.

Either way, the solution is not an easy one and there will never be a perfect system.

UL, IEEE, ASME seem to do a fine job without government interference...and when one of them becomes ineffective, because a need is there, it will be replaced by a competitive model. Putting government in charge of it simply doesn't work; all it does is give businesses people to buy, and when they invariably do, there are barriers to entry for competitors...it's why big business likes government regulations.

Perfect system is voluntary certifications and informed consumers....in the industries where it's private now, even uninformed consumers benefit from it because the companies need to adhere to the standards or risk losing a competitive edge among informed consumers. Same thing could work for healthcare and many other industries if we'd drop the "government please save us from ourselves" mentality