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  • KVB
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 05-29-14
    • 74817

    #85821
    Originally posted by turtledoves
    under fade week (5d opener)

    ARK ST/LA MON (67)
    HOU/UCF (69.5)
    MIDTEN/CHAR (60.5)
    ORE ST/ARIZ (69.5)
    LIBRTY/UMASS (67.5)


    i wonder if the majority of lines move for/against you one week, does that have implications for the current or future betting weeks?
    It's tough to make that call over a week, just the stuff I'm posting has so much variance.

    Even though I don't always subscribe to, or view the markets as efficient anytime the majority of lines move our way, it seems like it should be considered a good thing.

    But you are getting at an important part of this results analysis and I really dropped some hints you might have picked up on, or it's true what they say that you are just one creative mutherfukker in your own right.

    I mentioned expecting a performance against the close, hoping the closer stabilizes, even threw out the term consolidation with no explanation on what I meant.

    And in weeks past, we've been talking about the charts, when they go the same, converge, diverge. I think, efficient or not, I would always rather be beating the close over time and losing money, than the other way around. But we're analyzing all this, in real time, showing not only that there's plenty of money to be made when struggling against the closer but that the whole host of relationships have variance.

    That's one place I'm heading here, I think I mentioned one Fund having gone through the "cycle." We need the world to fall that way, a real time example, and then hopefully I will have written enough in previous posts and be able to do something similar to predicting the UPSET Basket slide, with highlighted charts.

    I may cut off the first parts of those running average charts so we can zoom in, getting more detail.

    It's fun too, I don't think it's too dry if you're following along.

    I don't claim to know it all, that said some things I keep saying are best taught by example. It's a long term project here.

    In the end, though, after all the variance, more often than not, if you beat the closer handily across the board in a given week, you're going to make money that week, or at least get even. Not always though, obviously.

    But when it comes to implications for further weeks, I suppose it's about making sense of that noise.

    Excited about the haymaker Fund, and the implications a reversal will have for revealing even more. Watching these market "functions" play out, even if my spread and Total plays are struggling, is still a good watch.

    It seemed like I was beating the closer this week pretty good in a few places and I get this feeling there's going to be a unit pop somewhere along the way. Things just feel due.

    This post kind of got long...lol. I suppose no matter what gets laid down, we have to always remember that we are dealing in probabilities, even if some (like some chart technicals) seem like pretty high probability. For those, it's like we're trading a high probability conclusion only to have uncertainty stick it's nose back in place.

    For example, yeah, I can tell you the moving averages crossing means we have some legs left in the direction we're headed, with pretty darn good certainty too (it's the nature of the stat), but that's all that will tell you, unfortunately. Or is it? Maybe we should consider the distance those lines apart, and how the trend in relation.

    A sort of, MACD, or moving average convergence divergence metric. More than just whether they cross or not. But even so, with the charts in rotation order and so many games going off at once, is it useful? There's a long and short term to consider.


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    • KVB
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 05-29-14
      • 74817

      #85822
      That post was a bit long.

      So I'm just going to set this here...

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      • Tanko
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 09-19-09
        • 5140

        #85823
        Originally posted by KVB
        Good info KVB thanks.
        Although I don't fit the "Gansta" mold, that song it freaking awesome. Ever since I heard it in "Office Space" its been on the top of my playlist.

        Craking it up now. Wife is freaking out.

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        • DiggityDaggityDo
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 11-30-08
          • 81454

          #85824
          Office Space one of the best movies.

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          • DiggityDaggityDo
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 11-30-08
            • 81454

            #85825
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            • Bostongambler
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 02-01-08
              • 35581

              #85826
              I’ll take the blonde
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              • DiggityDaggityDo
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 11-30-08
                • 81454

                #85827
                Originally posted by Bostongambler
                I’ll take the blonde
                Are you going to share?
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                • Bostongambler
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 02-01-08
                  • 35581

                  #85828
                  Originally posted by DiggityDaggityDo
                  Are you going to share?
                  Diggity we went over this. I’ll share money, friends, and what was the third thing 🤔
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                  • DiggityDaggityDo
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 11-30-08
                    • 81454

                    #85829
                    Originally posted by Bostongambler
                    Diggity we went over this. I’ll share money, friends, and what was the third thing 樂
                    BG, you not about the 'bros before hoes' life?
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                    • Bostongambler
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 02-01-08
                      • 35581

                      #85830
                      Originally posted by DiggityDaggityDo
                      BG, you not about the 'bros before hoes' life?
                      I am man, I am. Also for the homies not around I acknowledge
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                      • DiggityDaggityDo
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 11-30-08
                        • 81454

                        #85831
                        I bet BG will pick one or even two and not even share.

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                        • Bostongambler
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 02-01-08
                          • 35581

                          #85832
                          I’ll take all three please 🙃
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                          • KVB
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 05-29-14
                            • 74817

                            #85833
                            Originally posted by KVB
                            The KVB NCAAF Totals Fund has picked up...

                            346 2-Nov COLORADO/UCLA 65 (-110)
                            360 SMU/MEMPHIS UNDER 71.5 (-102)
                            360 UTSA/TEX A&M UNDER 53.5 (-105)
                            396 FRESNO ST/HAWAII UNDER 69.5 (-105)
                            That rotation number is obviously pointing to the UNDER in Colorado vs. UCLA and I also posted this yesterday...

                            Originally posted by KVB
                            Here's the KVB NCAAF Totals Fund through week 9 with links to each play and a crude closing line comparison...
                            I do expect a comeback here, but I doubt it's led by OVER bets. This week there 4 UNDER bets in play so far...
                            Because the rotation number originally posted indicates the UNDER, I am not going to make another official post to link the correction.

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                            • KVB
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 05-29-14
                              • 74817

                              #85834
                              There were no NBA plays on Saturday, oddly.

                              I suppose I'd better stretch more...

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                              • KVB
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 05-29-14
                                • 74817

                                #85835
                                The KVB NCAAF Visiting Dog ML Fund has picked up...

                                167 9-Nov LSU +225
                                An early opener for next week so I had to stretch early today...

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                                • turtledoves
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 08-27-17
                                  • 3398

                                  #85836
                                  thanks for the gangsta post. good to put things in perspective, sometimes it's easy to buy into an analysis too much. i suppose one can run models or queries against the data points/situations that make up the charts.
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                                  • turtledoves
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 08-27-17
                                    • 3398

                                    #85837


                                    week 9 unders

                                    2019-10-31: SF/ARI (44)
                                    2019-11-03: HOU/JAX (47)
                                    2019-11-03: NE/BAL (44)
                                    2019-11-03: TB/SEA (53)
                                    2019-11-04: DAL/NYG (48)
                                    Last edited by turtledoves; 11-03-19, 11:23 AM.
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                                    • KVB
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 05-29-14
                                      • 74817

                                      #85838
                                      Originally posted by turtledoves
                                      thanks for the gangsta post. good to put things in perspective, sometimes it's easy to buy into an analysis too much. i suppose one can run models or queries against the data points/situations that make up the charts.
                                      The analysis is compelling, for sure, at this point it's a matter of gaining data points week by week.We'll get the ball rolling with NBA too. With these functions we can see the same things in the charts in different sports.

                                      There's an NFL Contrarian Fund as well. Those Denver and LAC plays this week are highly contrarian, but the actual contrarian market tracking Fund for the NFL is 9-8.

                                      Today's NFL Contrarian Fund plays are PIT -1 and LAC +4.

                                      By season end, though, we will have a lot more NBA games to work with than NFL.

                                      The only other thing is for me to go back in history and post results that were before tracking, like I sometimes do with the haymaker Fund.

                                      Let's face it though, while I'll always be honest about all of this, it sure is more compelling when you can see it play out and accumulate in real time and eliminates any questions of tracking credibility.

                                      We're doing some unique things here and that's probably because KVB's High!!!

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                                      • DiggityDaggityDo
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 11-30-08
                                        • 81454

                                        #85839
                                        What’s on the tv?

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                                        • turtledoves
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 08-27-17
                                          • 3398

                                          #85840
                                          why can't i wear jean shorts

                                          Away System
                                          2019-11-03: CHI/PHI
                                          2019-11-03: NYJ/MIA
                                          2019-11-03: CLE/DEN
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                                          • KVB
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 05-29-14
                                            • 74817

                                            #85841
                                            Originally posted by DiggityDaggityDo
                                            What’s on the tv?

                                            Jerry Springer, perhaps?

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                                            • Bostongambler
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 02-01-08
                                              • 35581

                                              #85842
                                              Suddenly I’m in the mood for clams.
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                                              • KVB
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 05-29-14
                                                • 74817

                                                #85843
                                                Originally posted by Bostongambler
                                                Suddenly I’m in the mood for clams.


                                                I think you said that about pasta primavara a while back but I never saw the post that put you in the mood.

                                                Instead of clams from above, I went for pancakes. I suppose that's the difference between lunch time in Boston and breakfast in CA.

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                                                • DiggityDaggityDo
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 11-30-08
                                                  • 81454

                                                  #85844
                                                  Left, Right or middle?



                                                  And what's on the tv?
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                                                  • DiggityDaggityDo
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 11-30-08
                                                    • 81454

                                                    #85845
                                                    Left or Right?

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                                                    • DiggityDaggityDo
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 11-30-08
                                                      • 81454

                                                      #85846
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                                                      • Bostongambler
                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                        • 02-01-08
                                                        • 35581

                                                        #85847
                                                        Originally posted by DiggityDaggityDo
                                                        Left, Right or middle?



                                                        And what's on the tv?
                                                        Right.


                                                        Did I guess correct?
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                                                        • DiggityDaggityDo
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 11-30-08
                                                          • 81454

                                                          #85848
                                                          Originally posted by Bostongambler
                                                          Right.


                                                          Did I guess correct?
                                                          Close enough
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                                                          • KVB
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 05-29-14
                                                            • 74817

                                                            #85849
                                                            The KVB NCAAF Visiting Dog Fund has picked up...

                                                            166 9-Nov S ALABAMA +7 (-105)


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                                                            • Bostongambler
                                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                              • 02-01-08
                                                              • 35581

                                                              #85850
                                                              Originally posted by DiggityDaggityDo
                                                              Close enough
                                                              Thanks bud. Do I get her now?
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                                                              • KVB
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 05-29-14
                                                                • 74817

                                                                #85851
                                                                Fuk, more system trouble. I may lose value on same later plays but here's the current buys...

                                                                The KVB NCAAF UPSET Basket has picked up...

                                                                119 9-Nov FLORIDA ST +100
                                                                191 UTAH ST +115

                                                                The KVB NCAAF Visitng Dog ML Fund has picked up...

                                                                101 5-Nov KENT ST +240
                                                                103 BALL ST +240
                                                                105 6-Nov MIA (OH) +210
                                                                151 9-Nov UTSA +165
                                                                165 S ALABAMA +225
                                                                175 UAB +225
                                                                183 K STATE +195
                                                                185 N TEXAS +195
                                                                189 FLOR INT +310
                                                                The Visiting Dog ML Fund currently holds...

                                                                167 9-Nov LSU +225
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                                                                • KVB
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 05-29-14
                                                                  • 74817

                                                                  #85852
                                                                  The KVB NCAAF UPSET Basket has added...

                                                                  179 9-Nov TENNESSEE +115
                                                                  The KVB NCAAF Visiting Dog ML Fund has added...

                                                                  125 9-Nov LOUISVILLE +170
                                                                  135 ILLINOIS +340
                                                                  155 WYOMING +350
                                                                  173 IOWA ST +400
                                                                  193 IOWA +290
                                                                  199 SJST +225
                                                                  I hope I didn't make a mistake. If I did, we might have to correct it.

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                                                                  • Bostongambler
                                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                    • 02-01-08
                                                                    • 35581

                                                                    #85853
                                                                    Nice cannabis
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                                                                    • KVB
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 05-29-14
                                                                      • 74817

                                                                      #85854
                                                                      Originally posted by DiggityDaggityDo
                                                                      Left, Right or middle?



                                                                      And what's on the tv?
                                                                      Right.

                                                                      Will Smith.

                                                                      I'm going with a Bad Boys movie.

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                                                                      • Tanko
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 09-19-09
                                                                        • 5140

                                                                        #85855
                                                                        Originally posted by DiggityDaggityDo
                                                                        Left, Right or middle?



                                                                        And what's on the tv?
                                                                        Middle.
                                                                        Movie = Aladdin
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