The True Story Of The Poison Known As Aspartame

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  • SamDiamond
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    • 10-19-12
    • 6107

    #36
    Originally posted by PhillyFlyers
    When did I say every single clinical study is corrupt?

    Apparently, you can't read. Either that, or you're just being an asshole.

    Typical from an idiot like you.
    You made the claim that "studies are paid for by the drug company promoting its product".

    Which shows how woefully ignorant you are.

    85% of all scientific study is done at the academic level, and while it is certainly possible that a pharmaceutical company can and does finance an endowment, it does not buy results.

    Why?

    Because published articles are peer reviewed. They get off on beating each other down. Academic scientific research is brutally competitive, and if someone can tear down a peer given the chance, they will.

    Its because of that competition, that published research, while not perfect, is still pretty damn honest in delivering results.
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    • PhillyFlyers
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 09-27-11
      • 8245

      #37
      Originally posted by SamDiamond
      You made the claim that "studies are paid for by the drug company promoting its product".

      Which shows how woefully ignorant you are.

      85% of all scientific study is done at the academic level, and while it is certainly possible that a pharmaceutical company can and does finance an endowment, it does not buy results.

      Why?

      Because published articles are peer reviewed. They get off on beating each other down. Academic scientific research is brutally competitive, and if someone can tear down a peer given the chance, they will.

      Its because of that competition, that published research, while not perfect, is still pretty damn honest in delivering results.
      Not what I said. How can you have something in quotes that I never said?

      Are you really this much of a moron?

      This is the quote moron:
      Published clinical studies are paid for. Usually by the drug company promoting it's product.
      That is a fact. Especially dealing with a new drug that the drug company wants to promote.

      Any other words of wisdom, moron?
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      • SamDiamond
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 10-19-12
        • 6107

        #38
        Philly---

        Still waiting on you to break down a clinical study for me?

        What's the matter--- can't do it?

        You want random internet quote to support a theory--- try this one on.

        Now, I'm sure your GED will rival a biochemist from Hopkins.

        .......the Multiple Sclerosis Foundation posted a rebuttal of online rumors connecting aspartame to multiple sclerosis, characterizing them as "rabidly inaccurate and scandalously misinformative." The article was researched and written by Dr. David Squillacote, neurologist and Senior Medical Adviser for the foundation. This was followed by an article published by the National MS Society which in part stated: "Many Internet surfers came across an article warning that the food additive aspartame was responsible for an MS 'epidemic.' In fact, none of the claims in the article were supported by scientific evidence." More from the MS Foundation: Examining the Safety of Aspartame by Ellen Guthrie, Pharm.D.
        Simeon Margolis, M.D., Ph.D. and professor of medicine and biological chemistry at Johns Hopkins University, agrees. In a feature for Intelihealth, he wrote: "A letter recently circulating on the Internet stated that aspartame can cause a number of illnesses: multiple sclerosis and systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE), as well as Alzheimer's disease. As far as I can ascertain, there is no reliable evidence to support the claim that aspartame causes any of these disorders." Responding to the claims that breakdown byproducts of aspartame are dangerous, he added: "While it is true that high heat can break down aspartame, there is no evidence that the breakdown products are toxic." In another Intelihealth Q & A feature, gastroenterologist Lawrence J. Cheskin, also of Johns Hopkins, wrote: "...the evidence is overwhelming that there are no health risks to use of aspartame in the usual amounts (even 64 ounces) for everyone except the one person in about 16,000 in the United States who has phenylketonuria and can't metabolize it."
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        • PhillyFlyers
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 09-27-11
          • 8245

          #39
          Originally posted by SamDiamond
          Philly---

          Still waiting on you to break down a clinical study for me?

          What's the matter--- can't do it?

          You want random internet quote to support a theory--- try this one on.

          Now, I'm sure your GED will rival a biochemist from Hopkins.

          .......the Multiple Sclerosis Foundation posted a rebuttal of online rumors connecting aspartame to multiple sclerosis, characterizing them as "rabidly inaccurate and scandalously misinformative." The article was researched and written by Dr. David Squillacote, neurologist and Senior Medical Adviser for the foundation. This was followed by an article published by the National MS Society which in part stated: "Many Internet surfers came across an article warning that the food additive aspartame was responsible for an MS 'epidemic.' In fact, none of the claims in the article were supported by scientific evidence." More from the MS Foundation: Examining the Safety of Aspartame by Ellen Guthrie, Pharm.D.
          Simeon Margolis, M.D., Ph.D. and professor of medicine and biological chemistry at Johns Hopkins University, agrees. In a feature for Intelihealth, he wrote: "A letter recently circulating on the Internet stated that aspartame can cause a number of illnesses: multiple sclerosis and systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE), as well as Alzheimer's disease. As far as I can ascertain, there is no reliable evidence to support the claim that aspartame causes any of these disorders." Responding to the claims that breakdown byproducts of aspartame are dangerous, he added: "While it is true that high heat can break down aspartame, there is no evidence that the breakdown products are toxic." In another Intelihealth Q & A feature, gastroenterologist Lawrence J. Cheskin, also of Johns Hopkins, wrote: "...the evidence is overwhelming that there are no health risks to use of aspartame in the usual amounts (even 64 ounces) for everyone except the one person in about 16,000 in the United States who has phenylketonuria and can't metabolize it."
          This is a lie.

          There is abundant evidence that Aspartame causes diseases and other illenesses.

          You don't have a clue on this subject Sam, why are you speaking about it like you do?

          I see you didn't take me up on my offer. It still stands.

          What are you afraid of?

          As for the liar at Johns Hopkins that you quoted..here is the rebuttal...
          New Study Shows Aspartame Damages Your Brain
          A newly published study with rats investigated the chronic effect of aspartame on oxidative stress in the brain. Researchers found that there was a significant increase in lipid peroxidation levels, superoxide dismutase activity, GPx levels and CAT activity, showing that chronic exposure of aspartame resulted in detectable methanol in the blood, which may be responsible for the generation of oxidative stress and damage in the brain.4
          So the study found that aspartame exposure did result in “detectable levels” of methanol in the blood. Methanol is gradually released in the small intestine when the methyl group of aspartame encounters the enzyme chymotrypsin.
          Are Artificial Sweeteners Stressing Out Your Brain?

          Oxidative stress can be defined as the state in which damaging free radicals outnumber your antioxidant defenses. Oxidative stress tends to lead to accelerated tissue and organ damage.
          Case in point, earlier this year another study investigated the effect of long-term intake of aspartame on the antioxidant defense status in the rat brain and also found it leads to oxidative stress.5 Male rats that were given a high dose of the artificial sweetener exhibited a lowered concentration of reduced glutathione (the active, antioxidant form of glutathione), and reduced glutathione reductase activity, a sign of increased oxidative stress-induced damage in the body.
          Glutathione deficiency has also been linked to age-related diseases such as Alzheimer's. Examination also revealed mild vascular congestion – an obstruction of the normal flow of blood within the brain – in these rats. Researchers concluded:
          "The results of this experiment indicate that long-term consumption of aspartame leads to an imbalance in the antioxidant/pro-oxidant status in the brain, mainly through the mechanism involving the glutathione-dependent system."
          Adding to the problem, one of the amino acids in aspartame, aspartic acid is capable of crossing your blood-brain barrier. There it attacks your brain cells, creating a form of cellular overstimulation called excitotoxicity, which can lead to cell death.
          Your blood-brain barrier, which normally protects your brain from excess aspartate, as well as toxins, is not able to adequately protect you against the effects of aspartame consumption because it:
          • Is not fully developed during childhood
          • Does not fully protect all areas of the brain
          • Is damaged by numerous chronic and acute conditions
          • Allows seepage of excess aspartate into the brain even when intact

          That excess aspartate slowly begins to destroy neurons, and the large majority (75 percent or more) of neural cells in a particular area of the brain are killed before any clinical symptoms of a chronic illness are noticed. Then, when they do occur, they may or may not be associated with aspartame consumption, even though examples of chronic illnesses that are made worse by long-term exposure to excitatory amino acid damage include:
          Multiple sclerosis (MS) ALS Memory loss
          Hormonal problems Hearing loss Epilepsy
          Alzheimer's disease and dementia Parkinson's disease Hypoglycemia
          AIDS Brain lesions Neuroendocrine disorders









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          • SamDiamond
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 10-19-12
            • 6107

            #40
            Originally posted by PhillyFlyers
            This is a lie.

            There is abundant evidence that ASpartame causes diseases and other illenesses.

            You don;t have a clue on this subject Sam, why are you speaking about it like you do?

            I see you didn't take me up on my offer. It still stands.

            What are you afraid of?

            As for the liar at Johns Hopkins that you quoted..here is the rebuttal...
            New Study Shows Aspartame Damages Your Brain
            A newly published study with rats investigated the chronic effect of aspartame on oxidative stress in the brain. Researchers found that there was a significant increase in lipid peroxidation levels, superoxide dismutase activity, GPx levels and CAT activity, showing that chronic exposure of aspartame resulted in detectable methanol in the blood, which may be responsible for the generation of oxidative stress and damage in the brain.4
            So the study found that aspartame exposure did result in “detectable levels” of methanol in the blood. Methanol is gradually released in the small intestine when the methyl group of aspartame encounters the enzyme chymotrypsin.
            Are Artificial Sweeteners Stressing Out Your Brain?

            Oxidative stress can be defined as the state in which damaging free radicals outnumber your antioxidant defenses. Oxidative stress tends to lead to accelerated tissue and organ damage.
            Case in point, earlier this year another study investigated the effect of long-term intake of aspartame on the antioxidant defense status in the rat brain and also found it leads to oxidative stress.5 Male rats that were given a high dose of the artificial sweetener exhibited a lowered concentration of reduced glutathione (the active, antioxidant form of glutathione), and reduced glutathione reductase activity, a sign of increased oxidative stress-induced damage in the body.
            Glutathione deficiency has also been linked to age-related diseases such as Alzheimer's. Examination also revealed mild vascular congestion – an obstruction of the normal flow of blood within the brain – in these rats. Researchers concluded:
            "The results of this experiment indicate that long-term consumption of aspartame leads to an imbalance in the antioxidant/pro-oxidant status in the brain, mainly through the mechanism involving the glutathione-dependent system."
            Adding to the problem, one of the amino acids in aspartame, aspartic acid is capable of crossing your blood-brain barrier. There it attacks your brain cells, creating a form of cellular overstimulation called excitotoxicity, which can lead to cell death.
            Your blood-brain barrier, which normally protects your brain from excess aspartate, as well as toxins, is not able to adequately protect you against the effects of aspartame consumption because it:
            • Is not fully developed during childhood
            • Does not fully protect all areas of the brain
            • Is damaged by numerous chronic and acute conditions
            • Allows seepage of excess aspartate into the brain even when intact

            That excess aspartate slowly begins to destroy neurons, and the large majority (75 percent or more) of neural cells in a particular area of the brain are killed before any clinical symptoms of a chronic illness are noticed. Then, when they do occur, they may or may not be associated with aspartame consumption, even though examples of chronic illnesses that are made worse by long-term exposure to excitatory amino acid damage include:
            Multiple sclerosis (MS) ALS Memory loss
            Hormonal problems Hearing loss Epilepsy
            Alzheimer's disease and dementia Parkinson's disease Hypoglycemia
            AIDS Brain lesions Neuroendocrine disorders









            Sherlock.

            What MAKES YOU THINK YOU DO?

            You are calling men with M.Ds and PhD's after their names wrong---which is odd, considering they do this type of research WITH THEIR CAREERS--while you post on a fuking gambling board.

            So, let's weigh this out.

            You have the work of PhD's and MDs versus an internet guy from Philadelphia.

            Let me think about that one.

            Obviously you know more than they do. Because, WELL.

            YOU READ IT ON THE FUKING INTERNET!

            You win Philly. No one can compete with that kind of stupid.
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            • SamDiamond
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 10-19-12
              • 6107

              #41
              I do have one more question for you.

              You reference a study.

              Give me the journal it was published in, and its reference number.

              Oh, this is going to be good.
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              • PhillyFlyers
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 09-27-11
                • 8245

                #42
                Originally posted by SamDiamond
                Sherlock.

                What MAKES YOU THINK YOU DO?

                You are calling men with M.Ds and PhD's after their names wrong---which is odd, considering they do this type of research WITH THEIR CAREERS--while you post on a fuking gambling board.

                So, let's weigh this out.

                You have the work of PhD's and MDs versus an internet guy from Philadelphia.

                Let me think about that one.

                Obviously you know more than they do. Because, WELL.

                YOU READ IT ON THE FUKING INTERNET!

                You win Philly. No one can compete with that kind of stupid.
                I am knowledgeable on this subject in a way you will never be because I've studied it for years.

                You are just a loud mouth asshole.

                Yeah I'm from Philly, where are you from moron and what difference does it make for this discussion where anyone is from?

                You talk about stupid, you're the stupid one and the coward. Take my offer up pussy.

                Drink 4-6 aspartame-laden sodas daily for a year and chew gum that contains aspartame/phenylalinine.

                There are just as many PhDs and MDs that will tell you how bad aspartame is.

                But take up the challenge pussy. See if you have the balls.

                I know you don't.
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                • PhillyFlyers
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 09-27-11
                  • 8245

                  #43
                  Originally posted by SamDiamond
                  I do have one more question for you.

                  You reference a study.

                  Give me the journal it was published in, and its reference number.

                  Oh, this is going to be good.
                  I don't have to give you shit. You're a nobody.
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                  • SamDiamond
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 10-19-12
                    • 6107

                    #44
                    Originally posted by PhillyFlyers
                    I am knowledgeable on this subject in a way you will never be because I've studied it for years.

                    You are just a loud mouth asshole.

                    Yeah I'm from Philly, where are you from moron and what difference does it make for this discussion where anyone is from?

                    You talk about stupid, you're the stupid one and the coward. Take my offer up pussy.

                    Drink 4-6 aspartame-laden sodas for a year and chew gum that contains aspartame/phenylalinine.

                    There are just as many PhDs and MDs that will tell you how bad aspartame is.

                    But take up the challenge pussy. See if you have the balls.

                    I know you don't.
                    Why does it matter that you are from Philly? Because--- well, let's just say, you make it obvious.

                    On average, I consume a hell of a lot more than 4-6 sodas/day/year. I add artifical sweet'ners to my coffee, maybe 2-3 diet cokes during the course of a work day-- and have been doing it for what, maybe 8-10 years.

                    Still no fuking brain cancer.

                    I get it. You have no life outside of these goofy posts you make.

                    This is all you have. And you post this shit to feel important. Have at it Hoss. You're dumbass, you're the fuking punchline to just about every SBR joke now that TTWarrior is gone.

                    When a high school flunky has convinced himself that he knows more than a PhD Biochemist from Hopkins---I don't even know how to respond to you, other than to pity you. You have my pity.

                    I'm done making a prick out of you, because at this point--it's just sad.
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                    • PhillyFlyers
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 09-27-11
                      • 8245

                      #45
                      Originally posted by SamDiamond
                      Why does it matter that you are from Philly? Because--- well, let's just say, you make it obvious.

                      On average, I consume a hell of a lot more than 4-6 sodas/day/year. I add artifical sweet'ners to my coffee, maybe 2-3 diet cokes during the course of a work day-- and have been doing it for what, maybe 8-10 years.

                      Still no fuking brain cancer.

                      I get it. You have no life outside of these goofy posts you make.

                      This is all you have. And you post this shit to feel important. Have at it Hoss. You're dumbass, you're the fuking punchline to just about every SBR joke now that TTWarrior is gone.

                      When a high school flunky has convinced himself that he knows more than a PhD Biochemist from Hopkins---I don't even know how to respond to you, other than to pity you. You have my pity.

                      I'm done making a prick out of you, because at this point--it's just sad.
                      Sam

                      You are a total jerkoff.

                      You don't have a clue. About anything you posted.

                      Keep going and drink those diet cokes and add those artificial sweeteners. You're doing good.

                      It won't be another 2 years before you come down with a disease if you already haven't (there is a possibility you already have something and not know it).

                      Good job. Keep it up.
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