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  • RubberKettle
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    • 12-28-09
    • 6421

    #2241
    Originally posted by freeVICK
    wth they have a 60-70 year old white guy with a bomb on him
    What channel is this on?
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    • Capybara
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      • 08-17-08
      • 11803

      #2242
      Originally posted by Kermit
      Why do they need a Russian interpreter? The guy speaks English.
      It obviously wouldn't be for him -- has to be a family member or friend.
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      • shari91
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        • 02-23-10
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        #2243
        Boston tv saying this is the police strategy you see when you have a negotiated surrender in place. Or maybe they're attempting to get one?
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        • PAULYPOKER
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          • 12-06-08
          • 36581

          #2244

          10:56 AM
          The Boston Globe @BostonGlobe
          Local, state and federal agencies, including Secret Service, are on scene. Dog teams, explosives experts, and SWAT members.
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          • freeVICK
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            • 01-21-08
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            #2245
            Originally posted by RubberKettle
            What channel is this on?
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            • Frisco
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              • 02-27-12
              • 6138

              #2246
              Why would you rob a 7-11 after pulling off a terrorist attack? Makes no sense
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              • 5mike5
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                • 09-21-11
                • 51978

                #2247
                The translator is for the younger bombers associate via CNN. Not the actual guy but who knows

                there are more people involved than we know that's for sure
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                • PAULYPOKER
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                  • 12-06-08
                  • 36581

                  #2248

                  11:02 AM
                  NewsBreaker @NewsBreaker
                  BREAKING: Cop in Watertown, Mass to NBC's Kerry Sanders: "If you knew what was going on, you wouldn't be standing here right now." - @mhking
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                  • Kermit
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                    • 09-27-10
                    • 32555

                    #2249
                    Originally posted by freeVICK
                    wth they have a 60-70 year old white guy with a bomb on him
                    WTF?
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                    • TheRifleman
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                      • 08-30-12
                      • 7284

                      #2250
                      hope they catch this kid so they can torture some info. out of him..oh, wait, the liberals don't believe in torture....they think offering him sugar-free cookies will make them cough up their terrorist plans and designs...

                      WHAT MORONS...lol.


                      The story of Ali Soufan, a key interrogator of terrorist suspects for the FBI, is a firm rebuke to Bush-era torture policy and ongoing Islamophobia.



                      What is the best way to break a terrorist? Waterboarding? Stress positions? What about pizza, ice cream, or sugar-free cookies?

                      The most surprising element of former FBI interrogator Ali Soufan's memoir, The Black Banners: The Inside Story of 9/11 and the War Against al-Qaeda, is how receptive terrorists are to food. When Soufan takes L'Houssaine Kherchtou, an Al Qaeda fixer, out for pizza, Khertchou tells him he's "not an Al Qaeda guy anymore." Mohamed Rashed Daoud al-Owhali, who helped facilitate the bombing of the American embassy in Nairobi in 1998, spills the beans after being plied with cookies and Meals Ready to Eat. Tariq el-Sawah, captured at Tora Bora and currently detained at Guantanamo Bay, has a fondness for ice cream. And in the desperate hours immediately following the 9/11 attacks, Soufan wears down the diabetic Abu Jandal, a former bodyguard for Osama bin Laden, with sugarless cookies, establishing that Al Qaeda was indeed responsible for the 9/11 attacks.


                      There are other levers Soufan uses, of course, to get information out of his subjects. Khertchou is furious over bin Laden's refusal to pay for his wife's cesarean section. Owhali is overwhelmed by the quality of information the FBI has assembled. Abu Jandal, despite his fondness for bin Laden, is shocked at the scale of the attacks—particularly after Soufan manipulates him into believing that hundreds of Yemenis died in the assault on the towers. Soufan also exploits regional resentments between Al Qaeda members; the "Gulf Arabs" were frequently resentful of Egyptian members' superior influence and financial benefits, to the point that Al Qaeda would divide into Egyptian and Gulf teams for their Friday soccer games. Soufan leverages their ignorance of the Koran and uses their fidelity to extremist ideology to manipulate them into talking.


                      Because Soufan played a key role in investigating Al Qaeda's most successful strikes against the United States, from the East Africa embassy bombings to the 9/11 attacks, his account reads a bit like a first-person version of Lawrence Wright's The Looming Tower, a definitive book on bin Laden's terrorist movement in which Soufan figures prominently. A Lebanese immigrant and self-identified "fraternity boy," Soufan applied to the FBI armed with knowledge of Arabic, Islam, and the Middle East that would make him a crucial part of the bureau beginning in the late 1990s. His reliance on traditional methods of interrogation put him at odds with the brutal tactics implemented by the Bush administration after 9/11.

                      In 2009, having since retired, Soufan came forward as a key opponent of torturing suspected terrorists.

                      Through newspaper op-eds and congressional testimony, he argued that torture was useless, and that the

                      Bush administration had claimed credit for intelligence he himself had acquired without torture in order to retroactively justify its tactics. Soufan, who writes his book that he preferred Bush over Gore and identified with the "strong national security approach to the GOP," quickly became a target for the political right because of his opposition to torture. Soufan's criticism of the CIA, meanwhile, is reportedly the reason for the book's lengthy redactions of information that is already public knowledge.
                      Last edited by TheRifleman; 04-19-13, 10:09 AM.
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                      • Kermit
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                        • 09-27-10
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                        #2251
                        Originally posted by Frisco
                        Why would you rob a 7-11 after pulling off a terrorist attack? Makes no sense
                        Yeah really.
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                        • shari91
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                          • 02-23-10
                          • 32661

                          #2252
                          Originally posted by freeVICK
                          best for sure with no scanner
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                          • shari91
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                            • 02-23-10
                            • 32661

                            #2253
                            Originally posted by Kermit
                            WTF?
                            Yeah crazy, eh?

                            No clue about the 7/11 thing. I've thought about it constantly since hearing the news and I just don't get it either.
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                            • brooks85
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                              • 01-05-09
                              • 44709

                              #2254
                              They probably needed cash

                              I wish gitmo was still open so we could send them there...
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                              • TheRifleman
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                                • 08-30-12
                                • 7284

                                #2255
                                all this by a 19yr old virgin kid??? Are you kidding me?

                                Something smells REAL BAD.
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                                • TheRifleman
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                                  • 08-30-12
                                  • 7284

                                  #2256
                                  Originally posted by brooks85
                                  I wish gitmo was still open so we could send them there...
                                  Gitmo is still open
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                                  • freeVICK
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                                    • 01-21-08
                                    • 7114

                                    #2257
                                    this whole thing reminds me of the movie Salt
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                                    • 5mike5
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                                      • 09-21-11
                                      • 51978

                                      #2258
                                      Here is our resident looney toon rifleman chiming in. What a moron this goofy fukk is.
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                                      • brooks85
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                                        • 01-05-09
                                        • 44709

                                        #2259
                                        age is irrelevant in proper context, like the 16 year old assassin the border patrol killed 2 or 3 years back

                                        without doubt this a terrorist cell, these kids have been here for years and someone taught them how to make the bombs. They need to lock his uncle up and waterboard his ass if he wants to really help.
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                                        • brooks85
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                                          • 01-05-09
                                          • 44709

                                          #2260
                                          Originally posted by TheRifleman
                                          Gitmo is still open
                                          i know hehe
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                                          • shari91
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                                            • 02-23-10
                                            • 32661

                                            #2261
                                            link to local tv if anyone wants it

                                            Get the latest Boston news, weather and sports online, anytime. Stay in the know with Boston’s news leader – WCVB.
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                                            • King Mayan
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                                              • 09-22-10
                                              • 21326

                                              #2262
                                              Originally posted by k13
                                              They are NOT "white".
                                              Look like whites to me...
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                                              • redsoxfreak91
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                                                • 10-17-11
                                                • 903

                                                #2263
                                                Do you believe that it is possible that they were forced into doing this. They obviously are associated with the terrorists in their home town. They are also presumed to be very nice, Americanized kids they are very intelligent. The older brother was found with burns on his chest. They had a specific plan to execute their attack, that was carefully designed by a professional, yet they were caught robbing a 7-11 and killing a police officer, rookie moves that are signs of being scared and confused. Now they are finding more in on the plan. I beleive these kids do not want this to be happening. I believe there is a bigger root.
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                                                • face
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                                                  • 01-31-11
                                                  • 14740

                                                  #2264
                                                  "it's so sad that he did this . . . blah blah blah" fuk these corny news stations
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                                                  • TheRifleman
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                                                    • 08-30-12
                                                    • 7284

                                                    #2265
                                                    Originally posted by brooks85
                                                    age is irrelevant in proper context, like the 16 year old assassin the border patrol killed 2 or 3 years back

                                                    without doubt this a terrorist cell, these kids have been here for years and someone taught them how to make the bombs. They need to lock his uncle up and waterboard his ass if he wants to really help.
                                                    the liberals won't waterboard..they will offer him/them, cookies and pizza and hope that they talk...

                                                    Seriously. That's what they will do . They are utter morons.
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                                                    • Vegas39
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                                                      • 09-22-11
                                                      • 30686

                                                      #2266
                                                      Originally posted by King Mayan
                                                      Look like whites to me...
                                                      Agreed
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                                                      • brooks85
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                                                        • 01-05-09
                                                        • 44709

                                                        #2267
                                                        said they could have lived here as long as 10 years, so they didn't come here knowing how to make a bomb.
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                                                        • shari91
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                                                          • 02-23-10
                                                          • 32661

                                                          #2268
                                                          Originally posted by redsoxfreak91
                                                          Do you believe that it is possible that they were forced into doing this. They obviously are associated with the terrorists in their home town. They are also presumed to be very nice, Americanized kids they are very intelligent. The older brother was found with burns on his chest. They had a specific plan to execute their attack, that was carefully designed by a professional, yet they were caught robbing a 7-11 and killing a police officer, rookie moves that are signs of being scared and confused. Now they are finding more in on the plan. I beleive these kids do not want this to be happening. I believe there is a bigger root.
                                                          The burns on his chest were from the bombs that detonated when he was shot, I thought? At least that's what the police said. I really do hope they manage to capture this kid alive so we can get some answers. If he just ends up dead he'll be like all those other nutters who commit these attacks and we get no definitive reason why they did it.
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                                                          • brooks85
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                                                            • 01-05-09
                                                            • 44709

                                                            #2269
                                                            Originally posted by TheRifleman
                                                            the liberals won't waterboard..they will offer him/them, cookies and pizza and hope that they talk...

                                                            Seriously. That's what they will do . They are utter morons.
                                                            makes me sick to think that could happen.. like the treatment they gave the terrorist at fort hood
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                                                            • PAULYPOKER
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                                                              • 12-06-08
                                                              • 36581

                                                              #2270

                                                              11:15 AM
                                                              NewsBreaker @NewsBreaker
                                                              DEVELOPING: Media just asked to evacuate one area of [#Watertown]. Police [said] to run, & then hit the ground. - @KimLucey
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                                                              • shari91
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                                                                • 02-23-10
                                                                • 32661

                                                                #2271
                                                                Older brother was a father of a 2 year old? Or did I just hear that wrong? Oh please don't let this be someone's father.

                                                                Mentioned again the younger brother running over the older one as he escaped.
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                                                                • EaglesPhan36
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                                                                  • 12-06-06
                                                                  • 71662

                                                                  #2272
                                                                  Originally posted by redsoxfreak91
                                                                  Do you believe that it is possible that they were forced into doing this. They obviously are associated with the terrorists in their home town. They are also presumed to be very nice, Americanized kids they are very intelligent. The older brother was found with burns on his chest. They had a specific plan to execute their attack, that was carefully designed by a professional, yet they were caught robbing a 7-11 and killing a police officer, rookie moves that are signs of being scared and confused. Now they are finding more in on the plan. I beleive these kids do not want this to be happening. I believe there is a bigger root.
                                                                  Obviously no one knows at this point, but I think these fukks freaked out once their pictures got put out there. From what they say they told the first guy they carjacked, they did not mention being coerced to do it.
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                                                                  • PAULYPOKER
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                                                                    • 12-06-08
                                                                    • 36581

                                                                    #2273

                                                                    More from Ben Berkowitz, on scene in Cambridge, MA near Norfolk St apartment with possible family link to suspect: Eight more vehicles just arrived here, at least four (SUVs, vans, pickups) loaded with fully uniformed and flak-jacketed military and at least two with similarly turned-out FBI.
                                                                    by Colin.McDonald 11:16 AM
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                                                                    • shari91
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                                                                      • 02-23-10
                                                                      • 32661

                                                                      #2274
                                                                      Local news now mentioning that social website we posted earlier. Kid was interested in money, making a good life, blah blah blah
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                                                                      • Wilfred
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                                                                        • 08-19-12
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                                                                        #2275
                                                                        Lets see what the press conference brings
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