Closing Costs On A Refinance - What Is Acceptable? What's Stealing?

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  • TheMoneyShot
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 02-14-07
    • 28672

    #1
    Closing Costs On A Refinance - What Is Acceptable? What's Stealing?
    I was quoted a loan at 3.990% but my closing costs were $5,550 roughly. I'm just wondering if this is considered decent? Acceptable? Or am I taking it up the ass? Appreciate your input fellas.
  • ngates815
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 12-01-09
    • 13845

    #2
    Jesus Christ...paid 1700 this year.

    That sounds absurd.
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    • ngates815
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 12-01-09
      • 13845

      #3
      Thru wells fargo...my dad said they paid 2200 last year thru their small local bank.
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      • The Kraken
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 12-25-11
        • 28918

        #4
        Typically 2-5%. It may not be a great idea to refinance, especially if you won't be there past the next 3-5 years. It helps to figure out your break even period.

        How do you calculate the break-even period?

        Use the step-by-step worksheet below to give you a ballpark estimate of the time it will take to recover your refinancing costs before you benefit from a lower mortgage rate. The example assumes a $200,000, 30-year fixed-rate mortgage at 5% and a current loan at 6%. The fees for the new loan are $2,500, paid in cash at closing.

        Example Your numbers
        1. Your current monthly mortgage payment
        $1,199
        1. Subtract your new monthly payment
        - $1,073
        1. This equals your monthly savings
        $ 126
        1. Subract your tax rate from 1
          (e.g. 1 - 0.28 = 0.72)
        0.72
        1. Multiply your monthly savings (#3) by your after-tax rate (#4)
        126 x 0.72
        1. This equals your after-tax savings
        $ 91
        1. Total of your new loan's fees and closing costs
        $2,500
        1. Divide total costs by your monthly after-tax savings (from #6)
        $2,500 / 91
        1. This is the number of months it will take you to recover your refinancing costs
        27 months

        Tip: Calculate the financial benefit of refinancing in one, two, or three years. Does the benefit compare with your plans for staying in your home?
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        • Regul8er
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 11-06-07
          • 10666

          #5
          My closing cost was approximately $1,500 and this happened in the summer.....you sir are getting ripped off.
          Locked in at just over 3%
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          • ngates815
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 12-01-09
            • 13845

            #6
            Originally posted by The Kraken
            Typically 2-5%. It may not be a great idea to refinance, especially if you won't be there past the next 3-5 years. It helps to figure out your break even period.

            How do you calculate the break-even period?


            Use the step-by-step worksheet below to give you a ballpark estimate of the time it will take to recover your refinancing costs before you benefit from a lower mortgage rate. The example assumes a $200,000, 30-year fixed-rate mortgage at 5% and a current loan at 6%. The fees for the new loan are $2,500, paid in cash at closing.

            Example Your numbers
            1. Your current monthly mortgage payment
            $1,199
            1. Subtract your new monthly payment
            - $1,073
            1. This equals your monthly savings
            $ 126
            1. Subract your tax rate from 1
              (e.g. 1 - 0.28 = 0.72)
            0.72
            1. Multiply your monthly savings (#3) by your after-tax rate (#4)
            126 x 0.72
            1. This equals your after-tax savings
            $ 91
            1. Total of your new loan's fees and closing costs
            $2,500
            1. Divide total costs by your monthly after-tax savings (from #6)
            $2,500 / 91
            1. This is the number of months it will take you to recover your refinancing costs
            27 months

            Tip: Calculate the financial benefit of refinancing in one, two, or three years. Does the benefit compare with your plans for staying in your home?


            While that's what I thought as well, The whole "not staying there for more than a couple years". It knocked my payments down 220 a month...So it'll pay for itself within a year, which I'm sure I'll be there for that long and if not, I'll still be holding onto the place as I won't be able to sell it. Most people I know refinancing now are dropping for mid 5's/6's to mid 3's.
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            • The Kraken
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 12-25-11
              • 28918

              #7
              It sounds like you got a better deal, Gates. In order for Moneyshooter to recoup his money back in 1 year, he'd have to be saving 462/month. I bet he's saving less than 200/month. Either way it still helps to know the break even period.
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              • TheMoneyShot
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 02-14-07
                • 28672

                #8
                Current Loan:

                6.875% $1,092.14 A Month (Loan was 5 years ago No Doc)


                New Loan:

                3.990% $772.96 A Month (HARP Program Loan) No Doc.
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                • TheMoneyShot
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 02-14-07
                  • 28672

                  #9
                  Originally posted by The Kraken
                  Typically 2-5%. It may not be a great idea to refinance, especially if you won't be there past the next 3-5 years. It helps to figure out your break even period.

                  How do you calculate the break-even period?


                  Use the step-by-step worksheet below to give you a ballpark estimate of the time it will take to recover your refinancing costs before you benefit from a lower mortgage rate. The example assumes a $200,000, 30-year fixed-rate mortgage at 5% and a current loan at 6%. The fees for the new loan are $2,500, paid in cash at closing.

                  Example Your numbers
                  1. Your current monthly mortgage payment
                  $1,199
                  1. Subtract your new monthly payment
                  - $1,073
                  1. This equals your monthly savings
                  $ 126
                  1. Subract your tax rate from 1
                    (e.g. 1 - 0.28 = 0.72)
                  0.72
                  1. Multiply your monthly savings (#3) by your after-tax rate (#4)
                  126 x 0.72
                  1. This equals your after-tax savings
                  $ 91
                  1. Total of your new loan's fees and closing costs
                  $2,500
                  1. Divide total costs by your monthly after-tax savings (from #6)
                  $2,500 / 91
                  1. This is the number of months it will take you to recover your refinancing costs
                  27 months

                  Tip: Calculate the financial benefit of refinancing in one, two, or three years. Does the benefit compare with your plans for staying in your home?
                  Thanks Krak for the info!
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