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**bobbywaves** · 03-25-16, 08:12 PM

Originally posted by Auto Donk

by everyone but your account, you're 11k+ in arrears, you stiffing broke dik idiot

Since I don't take loans it sure doesn't look like I'm in arrears, according to my healthy account balance.

While you're well in arrears, since you can't cash via poker: 2,000 pt consolidation loan -- one other loan (1,000 +200 juice) to pay off

**Auto Donk** · 03-27-16, 03:06 PM

Happy Easter, Waves..... my well wishes for you in another thread have paid Karma dividends, as I wiped out over 1000 pts of that loan yesterday while I was typing out my prayer for you this Easter.

May you go in peace......

**bobbywaves** · 03-27-16, 03:52 PM

Originally posted by Auto Donk

Happy Easter, Waves..... my well wishes for you in another thread have paid Karma dividends, as I wiped out over 1000 pts of that loan yesterday while I was typing out my prayer for you this Easter.

May you go in peace......

**Auto Donk** · 03-27-16, 04:32 PM

Peace be with You, Waves

**snip3r2006** · 03-28-16, 01:44 PM

i'll play the next 10 tourneys ... lets see what happen

**pboozer57** · 03-28-16, 02:52 PM

Originally posted by snip3r2006

i'll play the next 10 tourneys ... lets see what happen

Excuse me while I go throw up over myself.

**astro61200** · 03-28-16, 03:00 PM

Originally posted by pboozer57

Excuse me while I go throw up over myself.

Why?

**pboozer57** · 03-28-16, 03:36 PM

Originally posted by astro61200

Why?

Too much chocolate from Easter. Duh

**bobbywaves** · 03-28-16, 04:26 PM

Originally posted by snip3r2006

i'll play the next 10 tourneys ... lets see what happen

I think your poker skills allow you the luxury to take more time off, but good luck sir.

**Auto Donk** · 03-28-16, 06:39 PM

Originally posted by bobbywaves

I think your poker skills allow you the luxury to take more time off, but good luck sir.

with such skillz (or lack thereof, I should say) of trying to lull sniper into thinking he can take even more time off, it's no wonder DownSouth played you like a fiddle in your proposed bet with him, leaving you in the position of owing him 72,000 betpoints

**USCPHILLYGUY** · 03-28-16, 07:09 PM

not sure how anyone can actually bet points with this shithole poker software.......was at final table today with about 6500 chips....7 left Im probably in 4th....go all in with JJ and get called by SB guy (can't remember his name, starts with a S) jack off doesn't hesitate to call my all in, I have him covered by about 2K in chips, with fukin Q 7 off! You guessed it......Q flops......

**chico2663** · 03-29-16, 05:59 PM

i finishe s3cond and third this week and both times i had high pair and guy goes in with 34 off suites and catches straight on river. i suck at poker so could only imagine how you good players feel

**playersonly69** · 03-29-16, 08:30 PM

Do you guys actually think that this poster will pay off his bets if he loses?? I mean what makes you think that he will buy a lot of points. From what I could tell, he never has bought any points so why would he start now buying points to pay back these bets???

I mean we ALL know that his line was horrendous for him. He should have been given about 30 to 1 or 50 to 1.

**pboozer57** · 03-29-16, 08:50 PM

I was thinking this right when I saw him post odds on himself. I mean Phil Ivey couldn't guarantee a #1 spot on himself with this type of tournament structure. 5/1 and 3/1 odds on this is unreal. If he was using players to chip dump to him and factoring that in that would help a ton with this type of blind structure. But that was only an accusation with no proof but he hasn't done much after that accusation which doesn't look good. Once the tournament passes 45 minutes it becomes bet and pray. Everyone knows you need to run like God to get in top 3. In this tourney you need to be able to give several bad beats and avoid several as well. For sniper to think he has this much advantage over the field seems odd to me. I'm not saying he's a bad player but you can run like shit in these for several months. It's really hard to get the right variance playing in 1 tournament a day and he says that he misses the 1 tourney as well. Guess will see...

**playersonly69** · 03-29-16, 09:01 PM

His odds of 3 to 1 or 5 to 1 should have been for him to only finish in the top 10!

Everyone knew that his odds were bullshit and so did he! He set it so low so a lot of people would bet on him

**pboozer57** · 03-29-16, 09:40 PM

I see everyone getting paid below but bobbywaves personally. Nothing against bobby and myself but I'm sure Sniper is aware whats going on. He would be a hero on here if he didn't pay him. Odds on bobbywaves getting paid vs rest of the field? So he would be out 2500 points...big deal.

@3:1
bobbywaves - 1000/3000
Slanina - 500/1500
aggieshawn - 500/1500
chico2663 - 200/600
@5:1
bobbywaves 6500/32500
brainfreeze 300/1500
astro61200 1000/5000

**Auto Donk** · 03-29-16, 09:47 PM

i'd feel real confident too if I was playing a bunch of dumbasses who didn't recognized that four newly created id's without one message posted among them were somehow losing all their chips to me, and i carried that out for 12 months.

fortunately for all those who took those awful line wagers, and unfortunately for the beneficiary of all the horrendous play by these four newly created id's who is on the other side of those wages, sbr is filled with some very bright players who immediately saw something was amiss with the Four Horseman..... who, it should be noted, have played about all of 3-4 trnies among the four of them since the scandal blew wide open....

kudos to our community for sniffing that bullshit out quickly and ending that "situation".....

anyone seen lsu4everandever at the tables lately?

how about ivanloko?

and our good friend luisballa?

these guys, who were so gung-ho that they, and the fourth guy i cant recall, all managed to sign up within seconds for the "one a day" trnies back in january, two or three of which some german guy with a scarf won after getting all their chips, haven't played shit since feb 4......

but, I'm sure it was all just a big coincidence......

saddest thing in this story is that sbr wouldn't commit an hour of time to confirm the chip dumps and ban the guy......

and for the record, I expect the guy to bail and never pay anyone shit on their successful wagers.....

**pboozer57** · 03-29-16, 10:07 PM

Originally posted by Auto Donk

i'd feel real confident too if I was playing a bunch of dumbasses who didn't recognized that four newly created id's without one message posted among them were somehow losing all their chips to me, and i carried that out for 12 months.

fortunately for all those who took those awful line wagers, and unfortunately for the beneficiary of all the horrendous play by these four newly created id's who is on the other side of those wages, sbr is filled with some very bright players who immediately saw something was amiss with the Four Horseman..... who, it should be noted, have played about all of 3-4 trnies among the four of them since the scandal blew wide open....

kudos to our community for sniffing that bullshit out quickly and ending that "situation".....

anyone seen lsu4everandever at the tables lately?

how about ivanloko?

and our good friend luisballa?

these guys, who were so gung-ho that they, and the fourth guy i cant recall, all managed to sign up within seconds for the "one a day" trnies back in january, two or three of which some german guy with a scarf won after getting all their chips, haven't played shit since feb 4......

but, I'm sure it was all just a big coincidence......

saddest thing in this story is that sbr wouldn't commit an hour of time to confirm the chip dumps and ban the guy......

and for the record, I expect the guy to bail and never pay anyone shit on their successful wagers.....

Well your #7 post on this thread about sums all this up. Snipe comes on here basically saying that we all suck and he has a huge edge. Hits like crazy in the beginning as you guys snipe his shit out and now he hides under the covers. He really needed to do something for the next 3 months for this not to sum justified. Which he didn't...Then says he only needs to play 1/3 of the tournament to take it down based off his 1st month playing. But wait.... "I'm ready to play 10 in a row" LMFAO.

**chico2663** · 03-29-16, 10:30 PM

my bet wasn't really against him it was more on guys like peavy,pashal and joeking. I don't think a real poker player could come in here and say they would finish first. to many bad beats

**playersonly69** · 03-29-16, 11:09 PM

What I didn't know was that he only owed everyone else but Bobby real small amounts. Sure he will probably pays the smaller guys, but no need AT ALL to pay bobby and NO ONE Would even call him a stiff since Bobby is a stiff

**pboozer57** · 03-29-16, 11:13 PM

Originally posted by playersonly69

What I didn't know was that he only owed everyone else but Bobby real small amounts. Sure he will probably pays the smaller guys, but no need AT ALL to pay bobby and NO ONE Would even call him a stiff since Bobby is a stiff

Well it looks like your 1000 should be a lock!

**bobbywaves** · 03-30-16, 12:53 AM

Originally posted by pboozer57

Well it looks like your 1000 should be a lock!

POS is a lock to win 1,000? That's pretty funny when the broke dikk can't afford to pay a loan on time, let alone make a bet:

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/foru...ints-loan.html

**USCPHILLYGUY** · 03-30-16, 05:24 AM

Originally posted by playersonly69

What I didn't know was that he only owed everyone else but Bobby real small amounts. Sure he will probably pays the smaller guys, but no need AT ALL to pay bobby and NO ONE Would even call him a stiff since Bobby is a stiff

coming from a jerk off who's taken over 5 months to pay back a 12 week loan

**Auto Donk** · 03-30-16, 08:48 AM

most anyone, including sniper, who winds up owing Small b waves any points knows to ship them to DownSouth until waves' 72,000 balance owed to DS is satisfied....

so even if snipe does the right thing and pays off a losing bet to waves, it will be DS who gets the pts.....

**slikec** · 03-30-16, 11:11 AM

Originally posted by slikec

Good luck

And you bet 3 to 1 omg. 3 to 1 should be bet to finish top15 to win you could have 15 to 1 lol easy. I dont want your points so badly

3rd post in this thread i already stated obvious.

**sinmiedo** · 03-30-16, 02:16 PM

Originally posted by Auto Donk

i'd feel real confident too if I was playing a bunch of dumbasses who didn't recognized that four newly created id's without one message posted among them were somehow losing all their chips to me, and i carried that out for 12 months.

fortunately for all those who took those awful line wagers, and unfortunately for the beneficiary of all the horrendous play by these four newly created id's who is on the other side of those wages, sbr is filled with some very bright players who immediately saw something was amiss with the Four Horseman..... who, it should be noted, have played about all of 3-4 trnies among the four of them since the scandal blew wide open....

kudos to our community for sniffing that bullshit out quickly and ending that "situation".....

anyone seen lsu4everandever at the tables lately?

how about ivanloko?

and our good friend luisballa?

these guys, who were so gung-ho that they, and the fourth guy i cant recall, all managed to sign up within seconds for the "one a day" trnies back in january, two or three of which some german guy with a scarf won after getting all their chips, haven't played shit since feb 4......

but, I'm sure it was all just a big coincidence......

saddest thing in this story is that sbr wouldn't commit an hour of time to confirm the chip dumps and ban the guy......

and for the record, I expect the guy to bail and never pay anyone shit on their successful wagers.....

Bring up the next wise guy, we will take care of it,"the Canadian team" !!!!!!!!!!!!

**astro61200** · 03-30-16, 02:44 PM

Originally posted by Auto Donk

and for the record, I expect the guy to bail and never pay anyone shit on their successful wagers.....

I said this back on 1/19 when he was banned for a day or two.

The majority of his points came in January and he's fallen off a lot since then. It happens every year, you run well at the beginning and see all of the bad players so you assume it's going to be easy. Then you start getting sucked out on every tournament by the bad play and realize it's a crapshoot.

He's logged in 5 times since 3/18 and lost 400 at the ring tables on the 18th.

He only averages a profit of 0.14 per point deposited. So he isn't good at ring tables and loses more points than he deposits.

So for him to even come up with all those points he'd have to cash a lot and rollover at a much better rate, take out a loan (which I doubt anyone would even touch), or win a lot in the book or casino.

**bobbywaves** · 03-30-16, 02:57 PM

Originally posted by astro61200

So for him to even come up with all those points he'd have to cash a lot and rollover at a much better rate, take out a loan (which I doubt anyone would even touch), or win a lot in the book or casino.

Why did you leave out his option of buying pts? Since Sniper is from Germany, he obviously has that option. Sniper already stated he would buy pts if he lost his wagers.

**pboozer57** · 03-30-16, 02:58 PM

Originally posted by astro61200

I said this back on 1/19 when he was banned for a day or two.

The majority of his points came in January and he's fallen off a lot since then. It happens every year, you run well at the beginning and see all of the bad players so you assume it's going to be easy. Then you start getting sucked out on every tournament by the bad play and realize it's a crapshoot.

He's logged in 5 times since 3/18 and lost 400 at the ring tables on the 18th.

He only averages a profit of 0.14 per point deposited. So he isn't good at ring tables and loses more points than he deposits.

So for him to even come up with all those points he'd have to cash a lot and rollover at a much better rate, take out a loan (which I doubt anyone would even touch), or win a lot in the book or casino.

Or just buy them right? Can non US players just buy betpoints?

**astro61200** · 03-30-16, 03:05 PM

Originally posted by bobbywaves

Why did you leave out his option of buying pts? Since Sniper is from Germany, he obviously has that option. Sniper already stated he would buy pts if he lost his wagers.

Originally posted by pboozer57

Or just buy them right? Can non US players just buy betpoints?

Yes, but let's be realistic here: Someone with 652 posts in nearly 5 years (with a lot of them coming in a month and a half span), who many believe cheated, who doesn't log in even close to daily, who will be far away from #1 after calling every player here bad and saying he'd finish 1st by only playing around 85 tournaments all year, and only posts in the poker forum, when he does post, isn't going to spend a decent chunk of change on points just to pay off bets.

Especially since there is no punishment for not paying them. So he goes from being thought of as a cheater to a stiff and cheater? Big deal.

I made the bet with him because I knew it had no chance of losing, if I get paid then great but I never expected to.

That said, when he does lose if he buys points and pays up I'll apologize without thinking twice.

**spider** · 03-30-16, 03:27 PM

for the record, sniper has purchased 800 pts (40 euros) on 11/30/2015.

**astro61200** · 03-30-16, 03:32 PM

Originally posted by spider

for the record, sniper has purchased 800 pts (40 euros) on 11/30/2015.

So, at that rate, he'd have to pay 500 euros to cover the 10k in points he's bet.

500 euros is $566 USD, for us Americans to better relate.

Does anyone really think he's going to spend that much when he has stopped playing and even logging in?

**bobbywaves** · 03-30-16, 03:35 PM

Originally posted by astro61200

I made the bet with him because I knew it had no chance of losing, if I get paid then great but I never expected to.

You can't say no chance of losing, especially when Sniper had the lead for months. A legitimate argument could be made that Sniper would still have the lead today, if he decided to play every daily tourney. Apparently Mr. Spider thought Sniper could win, as he was quick to sell his bet to me.

By not expecting a Sniper payment if you win, only means you're ok with being free-rolled.

**bobbywaves** · 03-30-16, 03:41 PM

Originally posted by spider

for the record, sniper has purchased 800 pts (40 euros) on 11/30/2015.

Surely a professional poker player can afford 500 euros, to take care of his possible 10k pt debt.

**astro61200** · 03-30-16, 03:45 PM

Originally posted by bobbywaves

You can't say no chance of losing, especially when Sniper had the lead for months. A legitimate argument could be made that Sniper would still have the lead today, if he decided to play every daily tourney. Apparently Mr. Spider thought Sniper could win, as he was quick to sell his bet to me.

By not expecting a Sniper payment if you win, only means you're ok with being free-rolled.

There is no chance. There were some shady happenings when he was winning, then he stopped playing and stopped logging in. Not to mention Jake started off slow and has done much better. Sniper could play daily now and he wouldn't win, and he's shown no willingness to do so anyway.

As for taking the bet but not expecting payment: I knew Jake would win the annual leaderboard so there was never a chance of losing. I looked at it as freerolling sniper as he had no chance of winning.

Originally posted by bobbywaves

Surely a professional poker player can afford 500 euros, to take care of his possible 10k pt debt.

As for that, I laughed when I saw that post and still think it's BS. A simple search of him shows his picture was from a win years ago and he hasn't placed much, if any, at all since (I did the search months ago so don't remember exactly).

I call bullshit on being a professional, as he could easily just add in the SBR table to his others. Plus, if he is good enough to make a living off of poker then it would be reasonable to assume he would cash in live tournaments every now and then.

That and he is down points on ring tables, if he can't even win points here at the soft ring tables then he isn't winning cash at real money tables.