If you don't think the Lakers Win the West, You are Delusional

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  • davopnz
    SBR MVP
    • 02-12-12
    • 1736

    #666
    Originally posted by lunchbawks
    Look at the teams alightly ahead of LA.. Houston, Portland, Utah, and Minnesota

    Minnys season is done all theire players are injured
    Houston's defense can't hold up
    Portland/Utah r only good at home

    Lakers will be in the playoffs
    houstons defense cant hold up but the lakers can?

    blazers just beat the knicks and grizzlies on the road a couple of days ago...
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    • hawley
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 05-10-10
      • 14270

      #667
      I don't see the Blazers staying in the 8.


      They have absolutely no bench and the minutes will eventually add up.
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      • PS3
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 01-29-12
        • 734

        #668
        Im from Portland but a big fan of the Lakers so whoever gets in, i'll be happy. ha!
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        • wantitall4moi
          SBR MVP
          • 04-17-10
          • 3063

          #669
          Originally posted by lunchbawks
          Look at the teams alightly ahead of LA.. Houston, Portland, Utah, and Minnesota

          Minnys season is done all theire players are injured
          Houston's defense can't hold up
          Portland/Utah r only good at home

          Lakers will be in the playoffs
          WTF are you talking about? Lakers cant win anywhere, not even at home now, and they certainly havent been decent on the road in about 3 years.

          Defense? Youre actually mentioning a team playing bad defense? NO ONE and i repeat NO ONE, plays worse defense in the NBA than the Lakers.

          Dallas will end up being ahead of lakers before it is over, trust me. So even if a team or 2 falers in front of them they still have to worry about Dallas.

          Lakers are in 11th place right now, that means they have to get past 3 teams in front of them already, not counting Dallas.

          Add to that that the Lakers are finally going to get into a relatively hard part of their schedule and it doesnt look good. Theyre 3 games under 500 now, 33 games into the season, in 10 more games they will still be at least 2 games under 500 and more than likely 4 games under. 5-5 is the most likely scenario which keeps them at 3 games under 500 at the 43 game mark, or slightly more than half way through the season.

          Then not too long after that, first of Feb they have a 7 game road trip, against some pretty bad teams but it is still an extended road trip, they havent won shit on the road in 3 years, so what will their record be in that stretch? That ends Feb 10 and I woud bet any amount of money they wont be at 500 even then. Thats 56 or so games into the season. So they have 27 games to make up whatever they need to to make the play offs.

          Marh is impossible for them, they have 10 of 14 games on the road. Yeah a good spot for the LA Lakers to make up game on people. Theyre only 10-8 at home right now, so barely above 500 in their own gym. even me, the first guy to fade the Lakers always recognized they could win at home. Not this year.

          If they continue to play the way they have been this team will be lucky to win 40 games. 40-42 isnt making the play offs in the west. Not even close.

          I predict they would have to go 15-8 (65%) at home and 13-13 (500) on the road to even have a slim chance at 43-38 to make the play offs in the west. At this point that would be a monumental turn around.

          Lakers are out of exucses. Nash is back and playing well (offensively anyway) Howards is also having a near career year on the offensive side, Kobe, well he is being Kobe. Even Artest is playing a lot better offensively than he has in a cuople years and much better than one would expect.

          But I and other said it a long time ago, offense isnt the problem with them, defense is.
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          • BigDofBA
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 09-30-09
            • 19313

            #670
            This thread started out with the OP saying you were an idiot if you didn't think LA would win the West.

            Now it's a discussion if LA will even make the playoffs.

            Lol.
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            • Sport_Fish
              SBR MVP
              • 12-06-10
              • 4079

              #671
              Originally posted by BigDofBA
              This thread started out with the OP saying you were an idiot if you didn't think LA would win the West.

              Now it's a discussion if LA will even make the playoffs.

              Lol.
              Exactly, its been an interesting sequence.

              When they first formed, it was a discussion of whether they can beat Miami. Then it was making it out of the West, and then it turned into which round they'll exit in the playoffs.

              And yeah now its whether or not they make the playoffs.

              I just hope this discussion doesn't turn into who Lakers will draft with one of their top picks.
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              • jsmithj88
                SBR MVP
                • 12-27-08
                • 3591

                #672
                Originally posted by Sport_Fish
                Exactly, its been an interesting sequence.

                When they first formed, it was a discussion of whether they can beat Miami. Then it was making it out of the West, and then it turned into which round they'll exit in the playoffs.

                And yeah now its whether or not they make the playoffs.

                I just hope this discussion doesn't turn into who Lakers will draft with one of their top picks.
                which pick? do they even have any?
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                • Sport_Fish
                  SBR MVP
                  • 12-06-10
                  • 4079

                  #673
                  Originally posted by jsmithj88
                  which pick? do they even have any?
                  Well if they keep this up, they're gonna be near the bottom of the West so won't they get a nice draft pick?
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                  • vasilli07
                    SBR MVP
                    • 05-08-11
                    • 3955

                    #674
                    What's the minimum number of games a team need to win to secure a playoff spot?
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                    • BigDofBA
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 09-30-09
                      • 19313

                      #675
                      Originally posted by Sport_Fish
                      Well if they keep this up, they're gonna be near the bottom of the West so won't they get a nice draft pick?
                      I thought they already traded away a lot of their draft picks.
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                      • Sport_Fish
                        SBR MVP
                        • 12-06-10
                        • 4079

                        #676
                        Originally posted by BigDofBA
                        I thought they already traded away a lot of their draft picks.
                        For 2013? Hmm didn't know
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                        • thetrinity
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 01-25-11
                          • 22430

                          #677
                          i think theyve traded away their first round pick in the steve nash deal, think cleveland or phoenix has the pick.

                          it actually keeps getting worse for the lakers, like wantit said, the hard games are still yet to come, a nice road trip to houston and then to san antonio as the 2nd game of a back to back, probably 0-2 1-1 at best, then home against the thunder friday.
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                          • JM92
                            SBR MVP
                            • 01-27-12
                            • 1140

                            #678
                            Originally posted by vasilli07
                            What's the minimum number of games a team need to win to secure a playoff spot?
                            there's no minimum. but I think this year, with all the teams fighting for the eight spot and with the clippers, thunder and spurs all looking at maybe 60 wins, 45 wins might be enough for 8th spot.
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                            • brainfreeze0
                              SBR MVP
                              • 03-19-12
                              • 2146

                              #679
                              Originally posted by JM92
                              there's no minimum. but I think this year, with all the teams fighting for the eight spot and with the clippers, thunder and spurs all looking at maybe 60 wins, 45 wins might be enough for 8th spot.
                              Which means theyd have to win about 30 of their next 49 games. Considering they haven't even won half of their games (15-18) it doesn't look very good for them.
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                              • wantitall4moi
                                SBR MVP
                                • 04-17-10
                                • 3063

                                #680
                                Lakers are now officially done, Howard probably out for the year, minimum til the all star break I would say. Gasol and Hill missing the next 3 games. Lakers will be 10 games under 500 before they realize it. Without Howard they wont win 5 of their next 15.
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                                • thetrinity
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 01-25-11
                                  • 22430

                                  #681
                                  i wonder if howard being out will be goats excuse now.

                                  im not suprised one bit he missed time this season, anyone could see that coming.
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                                  • BigDofBA
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 09-30-09
                                    • 19313

                                    #682
                                    Originally posted by thetrinity
                                    i wonder if howard being out will be goats excuse now.

                                    im not suprised one bit he missed time this season, anyone could see that coming.
                                    Of course that will be his excuse.
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                                    • brainfreeze0
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 03-19-12
                                      • 2146

                                      #683
                                      There is no excuse. When they have everyoone or dont they still lose vs good or bad teams
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                                      • bettilimbroke999
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 02-04-08
                                        • 13254

                                        #684
                                        The Lakers should be put in a retirement home, bunch of 40 year old former players that are gettin contracts like they're still the best players....Kobe couldnt shine Lebron's shoes
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                                        • BigDofBA
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 09-30-09
                                          • 19313

                                          #685
                                          We've established that LA is not even close to being a top 4 team in the West.

                                          Now it appears that Denver and Houston are a lot better.

                                          So where does that LA? They're going to struggle to get a 7 or 8 seed. Nice work giving up 125 tonight.
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                                          • ChiLLx
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 12-24-11
                                            • 5412

                                            #686
                                            I cannot believe how easy it is to just fade the Lakers and make money. No capping required. Honestly the best gambling decision I've ever made to fade this team since game 1.
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                                            • RawBillyIce
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 02-08-12
                                              • 2036

                                              #687
                                              I know they didn't win tonight!

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                                              • BigDofBA
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 09-30-09
                                                • 19313

                                                #688
                                                Originally posted by ChiLLx
                                                I cannot believe how easy it is to just fade the Lakers and make money. No capping required. Honestly the best gambling decision I've ever made to fade this team since game 1.
                                                Fade the Lakers and take the over. Easy. They suck.

                                                I'm really starting to think that LA will not be a playoff team.
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                                                • daonlyplaya
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 07-30-12
                                                  • 209

                                                  #689
                                                  I wonder how long till D'antoni is fired haha
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                                                  • wantitall4moi
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 04-17-10
                                                    • 3063

                                                    #690
                                                    Originally posted by ChiLLx
                                                    I cannot believe how easy it is to just fade the Lakers and make money. No capping required. Honestly the best gambling decision I've ever made to fade this team since game 1.

                                                    Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.
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                                                    • ChiLLx
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 12-24-11
                                                      • 5412

                                                      #691
                                                      Originally posted by wantitall4moi
                                                      I've posted in your thread wanti. I've been doing that all season just not the Spurs part. Never thought it would be so easy.
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                                                      • brainfreeze0
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 03-19-12
                                                        • 2146

                                                        #692
                                                        Lakers are an embarrasement. Can't believe I ever let myself believe they could cover a spread thats almost into double digits as a fuckin underdog. 20 unanswered pages worth of arguments still waiting to be shattered. This team is gonna be a lottery team without a draft pick. Pathetic. Lakers win the west. What a fckin joke. they might not even win 1/3 of their games.
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                                                        • Nicky Santoro
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 04-08-08
                                                          • 16103

                                                          #693
                                                          I think Goater (the kid that made this prediction).. should be at the least suspended for this prediction. I think a new rule at SBR should be implied that if a poster makes a prediction like this and it ends up being so so so way off, he should have to pay the consequences. maybe lose 1,000 sbr pts OR a 2 week suspension for being so wrong. it's only fair.

                                                          I mean it's something to be wrong by a little. but damn.... this is beyond wrong X 1000..

                                                          2 weeks suspension at the very minimum for Goater..
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                                                          • brainfreeze0
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 03-19-12
                                                            • 2146

                                                            #694
                                                            Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
                                                            I think Goater (the kid that made this prediction).. should be at the least suspended for this prediction. I think a new rule at SBR should be implied that if a poster makes a prediction like this and it ends up being so so so way off, he should have to pay the consequences. maybe lose 1,000 sbr pts OR a 2 week suspension for being so wrong. it's only fair.

                                                            I mean it's something to be wrong by a little. but damn.... this is beyond wrong X 1000..

                                                            2 weeks suspension at the very minimum for Goater..
                                                            It's because, as others have pointed out, he only picked them because they were the favorite to win it at the time he made this prediction, like he has done every other year. This wasn't some bold gung ho prediction. It's pretty ez in fact. You go look at the futures at the start of the season. Find the team thats top favorite and say "hey guys their going to win. Put your arguments here so I can shatter them." Hard work.
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                                                            • hawley
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 05-10-10
                                                              • 14270

                                                              #695
                                                              this is brutal
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                                                              • lakerboy
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 04-02-09
                                                                • 94379

                                                                #696
                                                                Originally posted by bettilimbroke999
                                                                The Lakers should be put in a retirement home, bunch of 40 year old former players that are gettin contracts like they're still the best players....Kobe couldnt shine Lebron's shoes

                                                                Kobe is still pretty good but the team is awful
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                                                                • Nicky Santoro
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 04-08-08
                                                                  • 16103

                                                                  #697
                                                                  Originally posted by brainfreeze0
                                                                  It's because, as others have pointed out, he only picked them because they were the favorite to win it at the time he made this prediction, like he has done every other year.
                                                                  that's my point. that's why he should be suspended for this. because he chose the best team and they flopped. now had he said RAPTORS will take it all and he was wrong, no suspension cause it took guts to say this.. however, he said Lakers and look what happened. for that, since the best team he predicted to win is doing so horribly, i say 2 week suspension.
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                                                                  • thetrinity
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 01-25-11
                                                                    • 22430

                                                                    #698
                                                                    nicky come on this an internet forum, kid already gets kicked around left and right, what else is there?

                                                                    no one ever will take him seriously, i dont think they did anyways.
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                                                                    • lakerboy
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 04-02-09
                                                                      • 94379

                                                                      #699
                                                                      greatest thread ever.
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                                                                      • thetrinity
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 01-25-11
                                                                        • 22430

                                                                        #700
                                                                        whats the over under of posts by the end of this thread. 2000+?
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