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  • JC
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    • 08-23-05
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    Will McCain's anti-Obama stratefy work?
    I invite all to read this and post their own opinion.



    Will McCain's New Anti-Obama Strategy Work?
    Andrew Romano


    This is may be October--but it's not much of a surprise. In the midst of a financial crisis that's boosted Barack Obama in nearly every key battleground state and cost McCain--according to his own advisers--about "five points" in the national polls, the Republican nominee over the weekend launched an "aggressive assault on... Obama's character" in an attempt to close the polling gap by "shift[ing] the conversation back to questions about the Democrat's judgment, honesty and personal associations."

    The onslaught began Saturday, when Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin told three separate crowds that Obama is "not a man who sees America like you and I see America"--mainly, she said, because he "is palling around with terrorists who would target their own country." (She was referencing Weather Underground founder William Ayers--a man with whom Obama does not "appear to have been close," according to the New York Times, and whose "radical views and actions" Obama has never "expressed sympathy for.") It continued Sunday with GOP strategists affiliated with the McCain telling the Atlantic's Marc Ambinder that "they plan to highlight Obama's alleged contacts with individuals who they say have been linked to terrorist organizations, including controversial Columbia Prof. Rashid Khalidi, accused without real evidence of being a former PLO spokesperson." This morning, Palin resurfaced, calling on her running mate--surely not without his campaign's knowledge--to bring up the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Jr. "I don't know why that association isn't discussed more," she said in an interview with the New York Times' Bill Kristol. "Those were appalling things that that pastor had said about our great country, and to have sat in the pews for 20 years and listened to that - with, I don't know, a sense of condoning it, I guess, because he didn't get up and leave - to me, that does say something about character." And in today New Mexico McCain called his opponent a "mystery, a liar, complicit in the economic crisis and an unaccomplished naïf, at all the same time."


    To paraphrase the Bangles: it's just another Muddy Monday.

    With less than 30 days to go until Nov. 4, it's no wonder Team McCain is going on the attack. In fact, his own operatives have made their motivations perfectly clear. "We've got to question this guy's associations," a senior Republican strategist told the Washington Post on Saturday. "Very soon. There's no question that we have to change the subject here." This morning, a "top McCain strategist" was even more explicit in an interview with the New York Daily News. "It's a dangerous road, but we have no choice," he said. "If we keep talking about the economic crisis, we're going to lose." In other words, McCain believes that the only way he can win the White House is by painting Obama as a chancy, radical choice who will endanger all that America holds dear--and hoping that the electorate reverts to the Republican ticket (the "safer," more familiar option) by default. As the Arizonan's new attack ad puts it, "Obama [is] too risky for America."

    There's no doubt, then, how McCain and Co. will spend the final month of the 2008 campaign. The question is: Will it work?

    My hunch is no. Here's are five reasons why:

    1. The Economy Isn't Going Anywhere: This morning, the Dow fell nearly 800 points, dipping below 10,000 for the first time since 2004. The U.S. economy dumped 159,000 jobs in September. Unemployment hit a five-year high. Americans have lost a combined $1 trillion in net worth over the last month alone. Whatever concerns voters might have about Obama's former minister or a guy the senator once sat on a board with pale in comparison at this point to concerns about their own economic security; the economy, simply put, is bigger than Bill Ayers. Every time Team McCain mentions Ayers, then, Obama will simply argue that his rival is ignoring the economic elephant in the room. "Senator McCain and his operatives are gambling that he can distract you with smears rather than talk to you about substance," he said yesterday in Asheville, N.C. "I want you to know that I'm going to keep on talking about the issues that matter--about the economy and health care and education and energy." As a matter of mechanics, it's going to be very difficult for McCain to transform an election occurring in the midst of the gravest economic crisis since the Great Depression into a referendum on his opponent's Rolodex, especially given that...

    2. Ayers and Wright Aren't Exactly "Breaking News": The Politico's Ben Smith first reported on Ayers last February; the country spent all of April talking about Wright. In other words, every "association" that Palin and McCain are intending to highlight before Nov. 4 has already been highlighted. Reporters are treating this as a story about McCain's newly negative tactics--not as an opportunity to reheat material they first served up last spring. Sure, some voters are unsettled by the fact that Obama once worked on an education project with a unrepentant (if rehabilitated) '60s radical and spent decades listening to sermons by a man who adheres to Black Liberation Theology--and they're not voting for Obama, at least in part, because of it. But given that the Illinois senator went on to win the Democratic nomination and build a sizable lead in state and national surveys after the Ayers and Wright stories first broke, it appears as if many swing voters--not conservatives, but swing voters--have largely decided that they're comfortable with Obama's past. Absent any new revelations, it's hard to imagine that old, rehashed information will change their views. The fact is, Ayers and Wright are probably priced--at least in part--into the current polling, which means...

    3. There Aren't a Whole Lot of Swingers to Be Swung: If the election were held today, Obama would beat McCain 52 percent to 44 percent, with four percent of the vote going to third-party candidates (at least according to the latest Rasmussen tracking poll). Of course, the election is still a month away--which means, in theory, that McCain can still catch up. The problem for the Arizona senator is that he doesn't have much room for error. Right now (again, according to Rasmussen), 44 percent of voters say they're certain they'll vote for Obama, while a mere 38 percent say the same thing about McCain. That leaves only 14 percent of the electorate up for grabs--an eight-percent bloc that's currently leaning toward Obama plus a six-percent bloc that's currently leaning toward McCain. Imagine a room with 100 people in it. Forty-four of them are already on the left side; they're voting for Obama, no matter what. Thirty-eight are on the right side; they're sold on McCain. In the middle, eight voters are leaning to the left; six are leaning to the right. To win, Obama must simply make sure that six of his eight leaners vote Democratic; he can afford to lose two of his leaners to McCain (perhaps over Wright/Ayers/etc.) McCain, on the other hand, must retain all six of leaners AND steal six of the eight voters who currently prefer Obama. In other words, he has to double his share of the persuadable electorate between now and Nov. 4. Could it happen? It could. But it's unlikely, mainly because...

    4. Last-Minute Attacks May Damage McCain As Much--if Not More--Than Obama: FiveThirtyEight's Nate Silver makes an important point:

    If the McCain campaign brings up William Ayers -- or Jeremiah Wright -- it will almost certainly be seen as attack politics. This might seem to be stating the obvious. But remember that this wasn't the case during the primaries. The Wright and Ayers stories were instead driven by actual news -- ABC's reporting of Wright's inflammatory sermons, for instance -- and were largely not pushed by the Clinton campaign. So unless McCain's oppo research team is sitting on some fresh news about Obama's ties to Ayers or Wright, the stories are liable to be reported as a typical partisan attack, which will impeach their credibility in the public's eyes and reduce their staying power.

    The only news here is McCain's negative strategy; we've already litigated Wright and Ayers. As a result, Silver adds, "it may be quite difficult for McCain to attack Obama in this fashion without significantly damaging his own brand." For much of the cycle, McCain's net favorability rating--the gap between the percentage of voters who feel positively about him and the percentage who feel negatively--tended to rise and fall with Obama's. But while Obama's net favorables have surged to about 22 percent over the past few weeks, McCain's have plummeted to six or so. By recycling old attacks on Obama, McCain may narrow the gap between Illinois senator's positive and negative numbers. But the strategy is liable to have the same effect on McCain himself. Sure, partisans may cheer McCain's efforts. But at the end of the day, it's unlikely that McCain would emerge from a slash-and-burn campaign having increased his net favorability rating. Obama's, meanwhile, would probably still hover in the double-digits--even if it takes a few hits. That disparity--the simple fact that voters see now Obama in a more favorable light than McCain--would make it extremely difficult for the Arizonan to pry three-quarters of Obama's leaners away from him (which, again, is the only way he'll reach 50 percent in the polls). Making matters worse is the fact that...

    5. The Obama Campaign Has Muddied the Waters on Riskiness and Associations: It's the least remarked-upon aspect of the current financial crisis--but perhaps the most important from a political perspective. Since the collapse of Lehman Brothers late last month, Obama has used the meltdown as an opportunity to portray himself as a safe and steady leader. At the same time, he has framed McCain's every move as needlessly reckless--or, to use Team Obama's lingo, "erratic." The point? To reverse the conventional wisdom and portray McCain as the riskier choice. Obama has succeeded, at least in part: according to the latest CBS News poll, 61 percent of voters say they're very or somewhat confident in Obama's ability to handle the economy. McCain's score? A mere 49 percent. Meanwhile, 44 percent approve of Obama's handling of the financial crisis versus only 35 percent for McCain. As a result, 52 percent of voters now say that Obama is prepared to be president, up six points since late September. Earlier in this cycle, McCain would have had an easier time defining Obama as dangerous radical. But now that the electorate has witnessed Obama "in action"--and seems to have decided that it prefers his economic leadership to McCain's--the burden of proof is much higher. Swing voters now have a choice: do they believe what McCain says about Obama--i.e., "there are essential things we don't know about [him]"--or what they themselves have seen him say and do. I suspect they no longer consider Obama much of a "mystery"--and are inclined to trust their own eyes and ears over innuendo, for better or for worse. Even if this wasn't always the case.

    Also complicating McCain's new message: the fact Chicago has authorized its surrogates to mention McCain's and Palin's questionable associations whenever they're asked about Wright or Ayers. That's why on Meet the Press yesterday Paul Begala "noted that McCain once 'sat on the board of a very right wing organization,' the U.S. Council for World Freedom"--a group whose parent organization" was once called "a gathering place for racists and anti-Semites" by the Anti-Defamation League. It's also why liberal journalists are complaining that Todd Palin belonged to a political party that wanted Alaska to secede from the union--and that his wife once attended "a sermon by the founder of Jews for Jesus, who argued that the Palestinian terrorist acts against Israel were God's 'judgment' on the Jews because they hadn't accepted Jesus." Finally, it's why the Obama campaign released a 13-minute documentary about McCain's involvement in the "Keating Five" scandal earlier this afternoon.

    Does today's tit-for-tat represent "a new kind of politics"? Hardly. I tend to think--like most swing voters I've met--that these "guilt by association" attacks are idiotic. And Obama's Keating onslaught is particularly iffy, given that the scandal happened 17 years ago and McCain acknowledged misjudgment. That said, Chicago's aggressive posture ensures that every voter who hears about Ayers will also hear about the Alaska Independence Party. Same goes for Wright and Keating. Ultimately, if McCain can't convince swing voters that Obama is substantially riskier and more "tainted" than he is--if his attacks elicit equally irrelevant (but equally unflattering) attacks from the Dems--it's hard to see how he'll benefit from baring his teeth.
  • reno cool
    SBR MVP
    • 07-02-08
    • 3567

    #2
    this kind of shit usually works well for the Reps. Might be too late though. McCain = Dole
    bird bird da bird's da word
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    • ryanXL977
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 02-24-08
      • 20615

      #3
      not this time
      it only works when people arent hurting and they have time to worry about this shit
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      • Deuce
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 01-12-08
        • 29843

        #4
        Obama=Carter
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        • ryanXL977
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 02-24-08
          • 20615

          #5
          bush makes carter look like lincoln

          what did carter do that was any worse than bush
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          • treece
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 11-28-07
            • 6298

            #6
            Obama=Mugabe
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            • Deuce
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 01-12-08
              • 29843

              #7
              Originally posted by ryanXL977
              bush makes carter look like lincoln

              what did carter do that was any worse than bush
              Where did I say otherwise? Ford was a combo of Nixon and Ford if you would like to compare.
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              • bmw530i
                Restricted User
                • 04-19-08
                • 4058

                #8
                Treece ....do you live on the east Coast ??
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                • durito
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                  • 07-03-06
                  • 13173

                  #9
                  The GOP has shown it's willingness to do anything to win an election.

                  I'm scared of what they might stoop to if these attacks don't work (and I don't think they will).

                  The polls/markets favor Obama as much as they ever have pricing about an 80% chance of winning w/ just 4 weeks left.
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                  • ms61853
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                    • 04-10-07
                    • 731

                    #10
                    The Case Against Barack Obama: Book Review



                    Let me say right at the start that this is NOT one of those conspiracy books about Obama. Nor does it try to smear him with innuendo about Obama's childhood, parents, and so forth. This book is a serious consideration of Obama's adult political career, his rise to power, his political associations, and peers behind the mask presented in Obama's current political (marketing) campaign.

                    The author, David Freddoso, is a serious reporter who covers Capitol Hill for National Review Online. Yes, he is a conservative, but he is no radical or sensationalist. He is a graduate of Notre Dame and the Columbia University School of Journalism.

                    The book's first chapter covers Obama's connection the Chicago Political Machine and his go along performance. His record in reforming the Daley political machine is non-existent. Obama was a pure machine politician and rose because he "didn't make waves or support no losers". We get to meet his patrons and those who were hurt because they got in his way. The second chapter shows his loyalty to the party as a state senator.

                    Chapter 4 examines the cult of personality that has grown up around Obama that has grown outsized where he has actually been compared, favorably, to Jesus Christ. This is where people start losing their bearings and projecting on Obama qualities they wish he had, but his record does not demonstrate. Chapter 5 covers his brief record in Washington. Still no reformer. He is a pure Democrat party politician and has a very left wing voting record in the U.S. Senate.

                    Chapters 7 & 8 look at Obama's personal associations and friendships. Freddoso does NOT accuse Obama of being a Manchurian Candidate or a crypto communist or anything subterranean. What the author does ask is why all his friends and major life influences are universally so far left. Can this tell us anything about the man? If Jeremiah Wrights promotion of Liberation Theology isn't the part of Obama's politics, where are the counter influences that were important in Obama's life? They aren't to be found. You can make of this what you will. Maybe you put no weight on it at all. Others will find the weight of these associations from the extreme branch of left wing politics to be dispositive about the character and political views of the man.

                    Chapter 9 shows how Obama is very weak and very ignorant in foreign policy. He uses shadow puppets to feign experience and is aided by the mainstream media that is completely in the tank for him and does not even try to hide it anymore. Abortion and Obama's really extreme and ferocious support of it is explored in chapter 10.

                    Chapter 11 covers more of Obama's business associates and patrons such as Rezko and what Obama actually did for him. One of the more interesting seeming quid-pro-quos is the million dollars that Obama got as an earmark for the hospital where his wife works. Also Michelle's pay went from up about $200,000 when Barack became a U.S. Senator. When asked about this, Obama just said the "we should have passed on to Durbin" the task of getting that million dollar earmark. He did not deny it or seem to even sense there was any potential appearance of impropriety.

                    Freddoso makes use of Obama's two books, public news stories, and the public records of the government offices Obama has held. This isn't a book of unnamed or secret sources. Supporters of Obama have tried to smear all the books on Obama with the sins of the most extreme and careless books. Remember, this book is NOT one of those. This is a serious and interesting book that you should read in these final weeks of the election.

                    Become better informed about this candidate. Do not fall sway to the emotional image the media has created to pull you in. Get the facts and make sound judgments.
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                    • pavyracer
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 04-12-07
                      • 82874

                      #11
                      McCain is the guy on the vid below

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                      • JC
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 08-23-05
                        • 481

                        #12
                        Originally posted by ms61853
                        http://www.amazon.com/review/product...DateDescending

                        Let me say right at the start that this is NOT one of those conspiracy books about Obama. Nor does it try to smear him with innuendo about Obama's childhood, parents, and so forth. This book is a serious consideration of Obama's adult political career, his rise to power, his political associations, and peers behind the mask presented in Obama's current political (marketing) campaign.

                        The author, David Freddoso, is a serious reporter who covers Capitol Hill for National Review Online. Yes, he is a conservative, but he is no radical or sensationalist. He is a graduate of Notre Dame and the Columbia University School of Journalism.

                        The book's first chapter covers Obama's connection the Chicago Political Machine and his go along performance. His record in reforming the Daley political machine is non-existent. Obama was a pure machine politician and rose because he "didn't make waves or support no losers". We get to meet his patrons and those who were hurt because they got in his way. The second chapter shows his loyalty to the party as a state senator.

                        Chapter 4 examines the cult of personality that has grown up around Obama that has grown outsized where he has actually been compared, favorably, to Jesus Christ. This is where people start losing their bearings and projecting on Obama qualities they wish he had, but his record does not demonstrate. Chapter 5 covers his brief record in Washington. Still no reformer. He is a pure Democrat party politician and has a very left wing voting record in the U.S. Senate.

                        Chapters 7 & 8 look at Obama's personal associations and friendships. Freddoso does NOT accuse Obama of being a Manchurian Candidate or a crypto communist or anything subterranean. What the author does ask is why all his friends and major life influences are universally so far left. Can this tell us anything about the man? If Jeremiah Wrights promotion of Liberation Theology isn't the part of Obama's politics, where are the counter influences that were important in Obama's life? They aren't to be found. You can make of this what you will. Maybe you put no weight on it at all. Others will find the weight of these associations from the extreme branch of left wing politics to be dispositive about the character and political views of the man.

                        Chapter 9 shows how Obama is very weak and very ignorant in foreign policy. He uses shadow puppets to feign experience and is aided by the mainstream media that is completely in the tank for him and does not even try to hide it anymore. Abortion and Obama's really extreme and ferocious support of it is explored in chapter 10.

                        Chapter 11 covers more of Obama's business associates and patrons such as Rezko and what Obama actually did for him. One of the more interesting seeming quid-pro-quos is the million dollars that Obama got as an earmark for the hospital where his wife works. Also Michelle's pay went from up about $200,000 when Barack became a U.S. Senator. When asked about this, Obama just said the "we should have passed on to Durbin" the task of getting that million dollar earmark. He did not deny it or seem to even sense there was any potential appearance of impropriety.

                        Freddoso makes use of Obama's two books, public news stories, and the public records of the government offices Obama has held. This isn't a book of unnamed or secret sources. Supporters of Obama have tried to smear all the books on Obama with the sins of the most extreme and careless books. Remember, this book is NOT one of those. This is a serious and interesting book that you should read in these final weeks of the election.

                        Become better informed about this candidate. Do not fall sway to the emotional image the media has created to pull you in. Get the facts and make sound judgments.

                        Can you answer the question please? Do you think McCain's anti-Obama strategy will work?

                        Even if Obama is best friends with Ayers, Rezko, and Wright, that doesn't make him a lesser choice than McCain.

                        The opinion piece points out that none of this is news at this point. It's all been reported and vetted months ago. All it is at this point is a negative smear campaign, something McCain said he would not engage in.

                        Do you have anything new, or are you going to just keep regurgitating the same old stuff?
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                        • durito
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                          • 07-03-06
                          • 13173

                          #13
                          McCain has repeatedly shown his willingness to do things he said he never would. He sold out to the far right (whom he'd battled his whole career) to win the nomination (even after these people helped to smear him and his family 8 years ago).

                          IMO they are going to have to resort to something far worse to win this election. They need a war to break out or a terrorist attack. Otherwise people are mostly focused on the rapidly deteriorating economy and if that's the main issue, Obama wins every time.
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                          • Panic
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                            • 01-06-08
                            • 10367

                            #14
                            Cant wait for all this sh!t to be over. It will be a happy day when there are no more McCain/Obama threads.(at least not as many). I wish the election was already passed.
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                            • ms61853
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                              • 04-10-07
                              • 731

                              #15
                              Originally posted by JC
                              Can you answer the question please? Do you think McCain's anti-Obama strategy will work?

                              Even if Obama is best friends with Ayers, Rezko, and Wright, that doesn't make him a lesser choice than McCain.

                              The opinion piece points out that none of this is news at this point. It's all been reported and vetted months ago. All it is at this point is a negative smear campaign, something McCain said he would not engage in.

                              Do you have anything new, or are you going to just keep regurgitating the same old stuff?
                              You are missing the point. Obama is running on a record that's non-existent. He's not and never has been a "reformer." He's simply an old school machine politician. What do you really expect him to do for you?

                              The book's first chapter covers Obama's connection the Chicago Political Machine and his go along performance. His record in reforming the Daley political machine is non-existent. Obama was a pure machine politician and rose because he "didn't make waves or support no losers". We get to meet his patrons and those who were hurt because they got in his way. The second chapter shows his loyalty to the party as a state senator.
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                              • JC
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 08-23-05
                                • 481

                                #16
                                You are missing the point. This thread is not about Obama's non-existent record. It's about McCain's latest strategy, similar to what you have been pumping out the past few days.

                                Do you (ms61853) think this strategy, going negative and blabbering about Ayers, Rezko, and Wright, will work for McCain?
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                                • ms61853
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 04-10-07
                                  • 731

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by JC
                                  You are missing the point. This thread is not about Obama's non-existent record. It's about McCain's latest strategy, similar to what you have been pumping out the past few days.

                                  Do you (ms61853) think this strategy, going negative and blabbering about Ayers, Rezko, and Wright, will work for McCain?
                                  Getting the truth out about Obama can only help.
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                                  • BestPlay2day
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 08-25-08
                                    • 5794

                                    #18
                                    No chance in hell this works. People want answers about the economy and other important issues. McCain knows he's going to lose so he's in desperation mode now. I don't really like either Obama or McCain as it doesn't matter who wins because none of them will keep their campaign promises anyways.
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                                    • AgainstAllOdds
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 02-24-08
                                      • 6053

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by BestPlay2day
                                      No chance in hell this works. People want answers about the economy and other important issues. McCain knows he's going to lose so he's in desperation mode now. I don't really like either Obama or McCain as it doesn't matter who wins because none of them will keep their campaign promises anyways.

                                      Great points...I really think the old politics are disliked by many americans.
                                      Originally posted by SBR_John
                                      AAO = good dude. Buying you a drink in Vegas buddy.
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                                      • Scorpion
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                                        • 09-04-05
                                        • 7797

                                        #20
                                        Old Johnny is just too old and so stoopid!
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                                        • reno cool
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 07-02-08
                                          • 3567

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by ms61853
                                          You are missing the point. Obama is running on a record that's non-existent. He's not and never has been a "reformer." He's simply an old school machine politician. What do you really expect him to do for you?

                                          The book's first chapter covers Obama's connection the Chicago Political Machine and his go along performance. His record in reforming the Daley political machine is non-existent. Obama was a pure machine politician and rose because he "didn't make waves or support no losers". We get to meet his patrons and those who were hurt because they got in his way. The second chapter shows his loyalty to the party as a state senator.
                                          Now he's a political machine(probably true), before he was a radical.

                                          And at this point doing nothing horrible, or simply doing nothing would be a great, great improvement.
                                          bird bird da bird's da word
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