New Jersey Internet Gambling Bill Would Permit Bets From Other States And Countries

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  • PhillyFlyers
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 09-27-11
    • 8245

    #1
    New Jersey Internet Gambling Bill Would Permit Bets From Other States And Countries
  • cadillac pete
    SBR MVP
    • 01-15-06
    • 1675

    #2
    I hope this would mean accepting sports wagers and having on-line poker, rather then play rigged casino games on-line like BJ, roulette, etc.
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    • a4u2fear
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      • 01-29-10
      • 8147

      #3
      Could be good news
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      • Brock Landers
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 06-30-08
        • 45367

        #4
        Like JJ said, sports will NEVER happen
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        • NSN21
          SBR Sharp
          • 05-13-11
          • 322

          #5
          I'm very surprised to see even speculation that they would be allowed to accept bets from other states & countries, as this is a clear violation of the Wire Act. I'm not real sure how accurate that part is.

          However, from what I understand, NJ is attempting to challenge the Professional and Amateur Sports Protection Act of 1992, which is a Federal bill. If they were to succeed in getting it declared unconstitutional, that would in essence allow all 50 states to opt in and allow sports betting to its local residents, just as Nevada does now.
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          • NSN21
            SBR Sharp
            • 05-13-11
            • 322

            #6
            Originally posted by NSN21
            I'm very surprised to see even speculation that they would be allowed to accept bets from other states & countries, as this is a clear violation of the Wire Act. I'm not real sure how accurate that part is.

            However, from what I understand, NJ is attempting to challenge the Professional and Amateur Sports Protection Act of 1992, which is a Federal bill. If they were to succeed in getting it declared unconstitutional, that would in essence allow all 50 states to opt in and allow sports betting to its local residents, just as Nevada does now.

            After reading this again, it appears as if this is a new bill just introduced, so perhaps they are also attempting to challenge the Wire Act.
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            • Joe Dogs
              SBR MVP
              • 07-20-09
              • 1931

              #7
              Looks promising.
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              • jjgold
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 07-20-05
                • 388208

                #8
                Originally posted by Brock Landers
                Like JJ said, sports will NEVER happen
                Never ever will happen

                So easy online now
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                • MoneyLineDawg
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 01-01-09
                  • 13253

                  #9
                  Atleast NJ is trying to change this bullshit.....even if it fails
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                  • indio
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 06-03-11
                    • 751

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Brock Landers
                    Like JJ said, sports will NEVER happen
                    Never is a long time. If the NFL ever feels like regulated sports gambling will ever put more money in their pocket, and not threaten their popularity due to a fix scandal, it will be legalized in weeks. Being as greedy as they are, they will either have exclusivity on it, or will force licensees to fork over a big chunk.

                    Trust me, eventually, when 25% of their league are convicted felons, when families no longer want to shell out $500 for 4 tickets, when sky boxes are not sold out, and when revenues start lacking because of fading interest, they'll change their tune real fast. May not happen for decades, but if my eternal soul could collect on a wager, I'd make a big one that we'll have legalized and league endorsed sports internet gambling sometime in the next 30 years.

                    Look at the numbers racket. Publicized by Dewey and others as a poison and unscrupulous theft of the working people to eventually becoming "a dollar and a dream" state endorsed game with pretty scratch off cards and bouncing balls that helps "fund the education of our youth." It's all about the money.
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                    • marcojuiceman
                      SBR MVP
                      • 05-25-11
                      • 2870

                      #11
                      Well if that happens Goodbye A+ books and their shitty CS
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                      • a4u2fear
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 01-29-10
                        • 8147

                        #12
                        Originally posted by jjgold
                        Never ever will happen

                        So easy online now
                        So easy? Living in the US? Notttttt, so easy.
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                        • dzzznutz
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 06-08-11
                          • 469

                          #13
                          feds will shoot down any state bill just like they did in delaware
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                          • FreeFall
                            SBR MVP
                            • 02-20-08
                            • 3365

                            #14
                            I'm not sure why you guys want legalized gambling in this country, but this is bad news IMO.
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                            • wantitall4moi
                              SBR MVP
                              • 04-17-10
                              • 3063

                              #15
                              LMAO if NJ can do it then so will everyone else. So not sure what the news is here. But it isnt going to happen. If it had a chance in hell nevada would have done it a long time ago.
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                              • bruceBRUCEbruce
                                SBR MVP
                                • 06-20-09
                                • 2560

                                #16
                                Originally posted by wantitall4moi
                                LMAO if NJ can do it then so will everyone else.
                                Wrong. Some states don't even have a lottery.
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                                • LVHerbie
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 09-15-05
                                  • 6344

                                  #17
                                  An Internet gambling bill approved by a New Jersey Senate committee Tuesday would let Atlantic City casinos take bets from gamblers in other states and even other countries, as long as federal and state authorities agree it’s legal.


                                  Bolded key part of article... No way this happens (at least for sports betting) without major changes...
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                                  • PhillyFlyers
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 09-27-11
                                    • 8245

                                    #18
                                    Senate Panel Approves Bill Allowing Internet Gambling In NJ

                                    The bill, which includes no provision for the state's race tracks, is a revised version of a measure vetoed in the last legislative session by Gov. Christie, who is opposed to allowing gambling outside Atlantic City
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                                    • wantitall4moi
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 04-17-10
                                      • 3063

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by bruceBRUCEbruce
                                      Wrong. Some states don't even have a lottery.
                                      doesnt mean they CAN'T have one. If NJ is allowed to take bets based on a federal ruling then all states would have the ability to also do it.

                                      States are generally allowed to 'govern' themselves but not when it contradicts a written FEDERAL law. Similar to marijauna sales in California and other states that allow it. it is still illegal federally. Just a question of whether the feds would want to prosecute. They cant really do anything to the states but take funding away from them, but if the states make more money than the funding they lose then they bite the bullet.

                                      But there has been a long on going battle between the federal government and states as it pertains to the 10th Amendment. The fed govt continually over steps its bounds, and states have been fighting to at least make an appearance that they are looking to get back to the way it was intended.

                                      it all depends on the money, any state can pass any law they want. But feds can still enforce it on their level if the state wont. States cant protect their citizens only themselves. A bunch of states have passed so called sovereignty resolutions but they have no lawful backing, just a stance that those states have people willing to stand up to the fed govt at a state level.

                                      NJ can do anything they want if their state passes the law. But if they go ahead and start the process then you might see GAMBLERS and not just the bookies start getting arrested and charged on a federal level. US govt could also sue any company that was taking bets.

                                      If you want to see what happens if NJ goes ahead and starts a sportsbetting operation either with in their own state or on the internet/over the phone go see what the US govt has done to guys out here in California that sell and also use 'medical' marijauna.
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                                      • JohnGalt2341
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                                        • 12-31-09
                                        • 9125

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by FreeFall
                                        I'm not sure why you guys want legalized gambling in this country, but this is bad news IMO.
                                        Why would legalized gambling in this country be a bad thing? If it's Government run and their Lines are horrible you could still play offshore. However, if their were hundreds of different places you could play at and they actually had to compete against each other then the Lines would be great. Maybe I'm missing something here... which is quite likely. What am I missing?
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                                        • TodayIsForgotten
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 06-19-06
                                          • 534

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by JohnGalt2341
                                          Why would legalized gambling in this country be a bad thing? If it's Government run and their Lines are horrible you could still play offshore. However, if their were hundreds of different places you could play at and they actually had to compete against each other then the Lines would be great. Maybe I'm missing something here... which is quite likely. What am I missing?
                                          I hope he's not talking about degen...sorry people throwing all their money away and losing their jobs and houses and wives or husbands because its now legal. Just like our Country is decaying due to drugs...
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                                          • jjgold
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 07-20-05
                                            • 388208

                                            #22
                                            Guys it all sounds good
                                            VEGAS and THE NFL never lose

                                            NFL a billion dollar business like Vegas and they get to any Federal Judge
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                                            • BetterBizness
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 05-20-06
                                              • 5737

                                              #23
                                              land of the free

                                              Just don't play poker or bet on games!
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                                              • bruceBRUCEbruce
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 06-20-09
                                                • 2560

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by wantitall4moi
                                                doesnt mean they CAN'T have one. If NJ is allowed to take bets based on a federal ruling then all states would have the ability to also do it.
                                                I rate your whole post "duh."
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                                                • PhillyFlyers
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 09-27-11
                                                  • 8245

                                                  #25
                                                  Odds Improve For Internet Gambling In Atlantic City

                                                  Odds Improve For Internet Gambling In Atlantic City


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                                                  • jjgold
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                    • 388208

                                                    #26
                                                    That really is nothing
                                                    Who cares if it is legal to play online casinos in NJ
                                                    People will get buried
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                                                    • Ghenghis Kahn
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 01-02-12
                                                      • 19736

                                                      #27
                                                      yeah it's kinda pathetic that nj will be the first state to have igaming. california should be the first since we can actually sustain a thriving business but these goddamn greedy indian casino bastards fear they will lose losers going to their smokey ass casinos. i supported indian casino bills back in the 90s but i wish none of them exists now...
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                                                      • jjgold
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 07-20-05
                                                        • 388208

                                                        #28
                                                        I see no advantages here for NJ people
                                                        Just empty pockets
                                                        Casino gambling all over the place anyway
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