Mark Sanchez is Everything That's Wrong With NFL Fans and NFL Management

[crustyme]

small details like how many teams are in the league?



why don't you just come out and admit you dont even watch or follow the nfl? cause everyone can clearly see you don't know squat and only started this thread just to jerk off to all the attention you crave.

[MoneyLineDawg]

Brahma, I gave you a chance to prove me wrong above, but obviously you can't do it

[crustyme]

uh there are 15 teams in the conference, that's about average (technically 7.5 would be average, but 6 isn't too far removed from that)


Good god, how can somebody be so incredibly retarded?

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[brahmabull117]

small details like how many teams are in the league?



why don't you just come out and admit you dont even watch or follow the nfl? cause everyone can clearly see you don't know squat and only started this thread just to jerk off to all the attention you crave.

Continue to argue over small details without providing anything of substance. It's pretty obvious who won this debate



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I don't understand why you keep arguing "in the conference", this debate is about quality QB play in the entire league. We're not discussing how good he is compared to only other AFC QBs

[brahmabull117]

I'll do that once you show me the last "awful" QB to make it to back to back Conference championship games in his first 2 seasons, or even at all......

Better yet, find me the last "awful" QB to even make the playoffs in 2 out of his first 3 seasons in the NFL

Unless you're saying Sanchez is the only "awful" QB to do this in the history of the NFL

you fukking idiot


these are TEAM accomplishments, when will you get that through your thick fukking skull?


Trent Dilfer has more superbowls than Dan Marino. Who was the better QB?



TEAM SPORT, stop discussing TEAM ACCOMPLISHMENTS. Good god almighty how can somebody such a fukking retard?

[MoneyLineDawg]

you fukking idiot


these are TEAM accomplishments, when will you get that through your thick fukking skull?


Trent Dilfer has more superbowls than Dan Marino. Who was the better QB?



TEAM SPORT, stop discussing TEAM ACCOMPLISHMENTS. Good god almighty how can somebody such a fukking retard?

Teams don't have that much success with awful qb's.......So answer those questions, I mean surely if football is as much a team sport as you say, there has to be many "awful qb's" that just happened to be on a great team like Sanchez, right?

So answer the questions I asked before:

Find me the last "awful" QB to even make the playoffs in 2 out of his first 3 seasons in the NFL and/or find me the last "awful qb" to lead his team to back to back conference championship games

[crustyme]

kerry/brahma, remember when you didn't know how many games the brewers were back of the phillies, because you didn't know how to read the standings? and then laid -200 on the brewers and lost big because of it? then you blamed some non-existent poster for supposedly giving you false info.



just goes to show your stupidity knows no boundaries and extends to all sports.

[brahmabull117]

Teams don't have that much success with awful qb's.......

Trent Dilfer, Rex Grossman



Your debate is now over and you're a fukking retard

[brahmabull117]

kerry/brahma, remember when you didn't know how many games the brewers were back of the phillies, because you didn't know how to read the standings? and then laid -200 on the brewers and lost big because of it? then you blamed some non-existent poster for supposedly giving you false info.

Instead of trying to fight on semantics and details, you've decided to change sports now altogether



Good job man, it's pretty obvious this debate is over. Thanks for conceding

[MoneyLineDawg]

Trent Dilfer, Rex Grossman



Your debate is now over and you're a fukking retard

Nope that would be incorrect, Rex Grossman and Trent Dilfer would be incorrect to both questions.....sorry pal, stick to 25yearoldvirginforums.com

[brahmabull117]

Nope that would be incorrect, Rex Grossman and Trent Dilfer would be incorrect to both questions.....sorry pal, stick to 25yearoldvirginforums.com

Dilfer won a superbowl and Grossman got to a superbowl, neither of which Sancheese has been able to do


You know what's funny? Jets would have become the most dominant team in the AFC if they picked up Peyton Manning this year, that's how big the difference is between Sancheese and a true elite QB

[MoneyLineDawg]

Dilfer won a superbowl and Grossman got to a superbowl, neither of which Sancheese has been able to do


You know what's funny? Jets would have become the most dominant team in the AFC if they picked up Peyton Manning this year, that's how big the difference is between Sancheese and a true elite QB

Still haven't answered my questions, so I will take this win, thanks for trying

[brahmabull117]

Still haven't answered my questions, so I will take this win, thanks for trying

It's a fukking retarded question and one I'm not going to bother looking up to answer because it proves nothing


The reason that you rarely see awful QBs leading teams with a lot of talent is because most coaches/GMs are smart enough not to waste a bunch of talent with an awful QB. The jets are breaking the mold though in that area by trusting a franchise that has had a top 5 defense and run game in 2 of the last 3 years to arguably the worst QB in the league

[crustyme]

conceding?

i havent changed the subject at all, which is how retarded you are whenever you claim to be an expert.

uh there are 15 teams in the conference, that's about average (technically 7.5 would be average, but 6 isn't too far removed from that)


Good god, how can somebody be so incredibly retarded?

[MoneyLineDawg]

It's a fukking retarded question and one I'm not going to bother looking up to answer because it proves nothing


The reason that you rarely see awful QBs leading teams with a lot of talent is because most coaches/GMs are smart enough not to waste a bunch of talent with an awful QB. The jets are breaking the mold though in that area by trusting a franchise that has had a top 5 defense and run game in 2 of the last 3 years to arguably the worst QB in the league

Actually it proves alot......It proves that a QB cannot be considered awful if he can take his team to the playoffs in 2 out of his first 3 years in the league, as well as back to back conference championship games.......I mean surely, it must have happened before in the history of the NFL, no?

[thechaoz]

Dirty Sanchez gonna put it in the dirt

[brahmabull117]

conceding?

i havent changed the subject at all, which is how retarded you are whenever you claim to be an expert.

still arguing over irrelevant details eh? I made a mistake, I meant to say 16. It doesn't make a difference anyways



It's okay though, anybody with a half a fukking brain can see that you haven't posted anything of substance in this entire argument. Keep posting 10 smiley pictures in every post, yea that makes you look smart. That definitely compensates for your lack of debating skills

[brahmabull117]

Actually it proves alot......It proves that a QB cannot be considered awful if he can take his team to the playoffs in 2 out of his first 3 years in the league, as well as back to back conference championship games.......

Trent Dilfer was an awful QB who won a superbowl (which is much more impressive than just going to the conference championship game and losing). If a superbowl winning QB can be awful, then why can't some schmuck who went to a conference championship game twice and lost?



Your argument is fukking retarded you moron

[MoneyLineDawg]

Trent Dilfer was an awful QB who won a superbowl (which is much more impressive than just going to the conference championship game and losing). If a superbowl winning QB can be awful, then why can't some schmuck who went to a conference championship game twice and lost?



Your argument is fukking retarded you moron

Hey, just answer the questions and I'll admit you win....Why can't you do it?

BECAUSE AN AWFUL QB DOES NOT WIN THAT MUCH AND HAVE AS MUCH POSTSEASON SUCCESS AS A YOUNG QB......It doesn't exist

I know it's tough to stop jerking off to your Total QBR List VirginBull

[brahmabull117]

Hey, just answer the questions and I'll admit you win....Why can't you do it?

BECAUSE AN AWFUL QB DOES NOT WIN THAT MUCH AND HAVE AS MUCH POSTSEASON SUCCESS AS A YOUNG QB......It doesn't exist

There aren't enough words in the english language- hell, the entire lexicon of languages the world over- to describe how incredibly wrong this is. Not only is it wrong in that it is ignorant, but in that it is so incredibly incorrect on a factual level. Holy fukking God, how stupid can a human being get? In my life I've encountered people who have been unintelligent, yes- I've encounted my share of people who suffered from mental disabilities. People with downs syndrome, autism, and so on. However, I have never once encountered someone so stupid as to be capable of thinking something so unbelievably off-base. I didn't even think it possible that anyone in our plain of existence could ever even have the capacity for this level of idiocy.

[MoneyLineDawg]

There aren't enough words in the english language- hell, the entire lexicon of languages the world over- to describe how incredibly wrong this is. Not only is it wrong in that it is ignorant, but in that it is so incredibly incorrect on a factual level. Holy fukking God, how stupid can a human being get? In my life I've encountered people who have been unintelligent, yes- I've encounted my share of people who suffered from mental disabilities. People with downs syndrome, autism, and so on. However, I have never once encountered someone so stupid as to be capable of thinking something so unbelievably off-base. I didn't even think it possible that anyone in our plain of existence could ever even have the capacity for this level of idiocy.

How many awful QB's in the history of the NFL have led their teams to the playoffs in their rookie season and 2nd season? One, Mark Sanchez

How many awful QB's in the history of the NFL have led their teams to back to back conference championship games in their first 2 seasons? One, Mark Sanchez



You are fukkin retarded

[brahmabull117]

How many awful QB's in the history of the NFL have led their teams to the playoffs in their rookie season and 2nd season? One, Mark Sanchez

Big Ben went to the playoffs his first 2 seasons and actually won the superbowl in the 2nd season


Big Ben also had vastly superior QB rating (by almost 30 points) to Sancheese



you = fukking moron

[crustyme]

still arguing over irrelevant details eh? I made a mistake, I meant to say 16. It doesn't make a difference anyways



It's okay though, anybody with a half a fukking brain can see that you haven't posted anything of substance in this entire argument. Keep posting 10 smiley pictures in every post, yea that makes you look smart. That definitely compensates for your lack of debating skills

don't you understand? you're a joke. your arguments are a joke. your "facts" are a joke.

when someone doesnt even know simple material fact as how many teams there are or how many games back a team is, it just makes the rest of your argument weak and irrelevant. even a fake lawyer like yourself should know if you screw up material facts during a trial, your entire argument becomes null and void.

uh there are 15 teams in the conference, that's about average (technically 7.5 would be average, but 6 isn't too far removed from that)


Good god, how can somebody be so incredibly retarded?

[MoneyLineDawg]

Big Ben went to the playoffs his first 2 seasons and actually won the superbowl in the 2nd season


Big Ben also had vastly superior QB rating (by almost 30 points) to Sancheese



you = fukking moron

Big Ben again???......He is not an awful qb so I don't know why you're mentioning him retard

[brahmabull117]

don't you understand? you're a joke. your arguments are a joke. your "facts" are a joke.

Sancheese = avg ranking of #26 in the league in passer rating and also bottom 5 in nearly every other major QB stat over the last 3 seasons

Sancheese = has played on 3 teams all with above average WRs and 2 of the 3 teams had top 5 OL, top 5 RBs and top 5 defense



/debate you idiot

[brahmabull117]

Big Ben again???......He is not an awful qb so I don't know why you're mentioning him retard

Then what you're asking for is impossible to find because good teams don't start rookie QBs. It almost never happens


I can't think of a single team that had a good defense, run game and receivers that started a rookie QB except for the jets and steelers. Ofcourse Big Ben has won 2 rings and Sancheese will never win a ring as long as he continues to be a terrible QB

[MoneyLineDawg]

Sancheese = avg ranking of #26 in the league in passer rating and also bottom 5 in nearly every other major QB stat over the last 3 seasons

Sancheese = has played on 3 teams all with above average WRs and 2 of the 3 teams had top 5 OL, top 5 RBs and top 5 defense



/debate you idiot

Still waiting for the answers.....

Brahma loses another debate!

[brahmabull117]

Still waiting for the answers.....

[MoneyLineDawg]

Well I just debated for hours with a retarded 24 year old virgin on the internet .....Gotta reevaluate my decisions in life moving forward

[crustyme]

Sancheese = avg ranking of #26 in the league in passer rating and also bottom 5 in nearly every other major QB stat over the last 3 seasons

Sancheese = has played on 3 teams all with above average WRs and 2 of the 3 teams had top 5 OL, top 5 RBs and top 5 defense



/debate you idiot

uh there are 15 teams in the conference, that's about average (technically 7.5 would be average, but 6 isn't too far removed from that)


Good god, how can somebody be so incredibly retarded?

[hawley]

Those of you trying to have this argument about QBR and its inefficiencies are banging your head against the wall.



No offense Brah but last MLB season all you used to look at was a pitcher's ERA and w/l record without looking at any of the telling advanced stats

[Sledge187]

I so agree with the OP's point. Sanchez is overrated and the Jets loyalty to him is pretty funny. With a declining defense the Jets are destined for 6-10ish type season.

[Grits n' Gravy]

Brahma is all butt hurt because Sanchez filed a restraining order against him after he tried to join his fan club and asked for a game worn jock strap to sniff.

Sanchez is mediocre and so are the Jets. He is not the sole problem with team.

[jbop]

Bull, you are dead on...stop trying to reason with those jerkoffs that have no clue. Manning was the only chance that they had of winning a superbowl in the next 3 years. after 3 more disappointing years, you will here the same b.s. from the same people that Sanchez is young and needs more time. These people don't get it and the Front office certainly doesn't get it that Sanchez will never win a Superbowl. Tebow was a good move to sell shirts in ny and nj, that's about it, he's way worst than Sanchez..We all knew the Pats would expose him. Btw, I love how you mentioned Dilfer and Rex Grossman and you still couldn't shut those two idiots up. Also, I like to say that eventhough Revis is a great athlete, he consistantly holds and makes illegal contact downfield and is afraid to tackle. Crom is even worst, but he does make some big hits when he has to. I would of got rid of Revis once he held out, sets a bad tone, the same way I would of got rid of Arod on the Yanks. How can people with so much money be that dumb...I guess because they inherit it...who knows. Another dummy is the owner of the Knicks. Almost single handedly killed a franchise...thank goodness he has cablevision money that he inherited from his pops.

[MoneyLineDawg]

Everyone rips on the Jets but they have been one of the better teams in the league since Rex Ryan has been the head coach....

2 Conference championship appearances and a mediocre 8-8 season.....you would think this team has been like 1-15 for 3 straight seasons the way people rip on them contstanly.....Wow Rex Ryan says he's going to win the super bowl?? Big fukkin deal man, he's just trying to have a little fun and says what he believes.....I guess it's better to suck ass and keep quiet....sure would be really fun with a league full of Jacksonville Jaguars and Miami Dolphins

And guy above me, you have no clue pal.....Revis is the best CB in the league and it's not even close.....he gets away with holding?? That's a loser excuse if I ever heard one....And he tackles with the best of them, it is cromartie who doesn't tackle