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  • C-Gold
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    • 09-04-10
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    #1
    Obama is a horrible President for the Middle Class
    Obama is a great President for the Rich:

    Never raised taxes, bailed out wall street, never cracked down on abusive trading, gave the market a trillion dollars in stimulus, and the stock market goes up. Rich people own stocks, stock market goes up, Rich people make money, wall street gives more money to Obama for his next election campaign.

    Obama is a great President for the Poor.

    They don't call him the food stamps president for nothing. 46 million on food stamps. Why work a min wage job when you can get 99 weeks of unemployment for free or get welfare, free house, free food, free health care? Poor people love Obama.

    Obama is an awful President for the middle class.


    50% of people don't pay anything in taxes, the poor certainly don't pay, the Rich have trusts and accountants reduce their taxes to 15% so who gets stuck paying the bill? Probably YOU and Me.

    Instead of asking yourself whether or not you are better off than you were 4 years ago, ask yourself who is going to pay off 16 trillion dollars worth of debt? What's 16 trillion divided by 300 million? It's the debt that every man woman and child in America owes. Kick the can down the road, your grand kids will be paying back the "stimulus" trillion of debt. Was it worth it? Bridges to nowhere? Not firing underperforming teachers?
  • King Mayan
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    • 09-22-10
    • 21330

    #2
    here we go again.
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    • CarpeDime
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      • 09-01-09
      • 7873

      #3
      Originally posted by C-Gold
      Obama is a great President for the Rich:

      Never raised taxes, bailed out wall street, never cracked down on abusive trading, gave the market a trillion dollars in stimulus, and the stock market goes up. Rich people own stocks, stock market goes up, Rich people make money, wall street gives more money to Obama for his next election campaign.

      Obama is a great President for the Poor.

      They don't call him the food stamps president for nothing. 46 million on food stamps. Why work a min wage job when you can get 99 weeks of unemployment for free or get welfare, free house, free food, free health care? Poor people love Obama.

      Obama is an awful President for the middle class.


      50% of people don't pay anything in taxes, the poor certainly don't pay, the Rich have trusts and accountants reduce their taxes to 15% so who gets stuck paying the bill? Probably YOU and Me.

      Instead of asking yourself whether or not you are better off than you were 4 years ago, ask yourself who is going to pay off 16 trillion dollars worth of debt? What's 16 trillion divided by 300 million? It's the debt that every man woman and child in America owes. Kick the can down the road, your grand kids will be paying back the "stimulus" trillion of debt. Was it worth it? Bridges to nowhere? Not firing underperforming teachers?
      could not of said it better myself

      but Obama will be GONE soon, THANK GOD, and Romney will take over and pretty much do the opposite of all of this which will at least put us on the right, common sense, Conservative track in this country

      Romney will NOT bail out Wall St and he will go in there and throw in jail all the abusive traders, and he will give zero dollars of stimulus thank God

      he will slash handouts to lazy poor people who want to sit on there ass instead of getting a job

      and he will look at all the special projects that liberal special interests and lobbyists love and slash the hell out of all of them!

      Romney has a little thing called COMMON SENSE, so when someone comes to him looking for a handout to build a bridge, he will say "and where is this bridge going?" and the lobbyist will say "nowhere" and Romney will say "nowhere huh......GET THE HELL OUT OF MY OFFICE YOU LAZY SPECIAL INTEREST SOCIALIST ELITE LIBERAL LOBBYIST"

      we will make America great again, just wait until November
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      • BIGDAY
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 02-17-10
        • 48247

        #4
        I'm not going to get involved in any politic threads until later this year. Bad for my overall health.
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        • manny24
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          • 10-22-07
          • 20174

          #5
          carper i like everything you said except for the romney part...guy looks like ted danson on acid.
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          • frostno98
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            • 09-11-07
            • 9769

            #6
            President Obama is the greatest President ever, enuff said!
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            • jw
              SBR MVP
              • 10-25-09
              • 3999

              #7
              Originally posted by CarpeDime

              could not of said it better myself

              but Obama will be GONE soon, THANK GOD, and Romney will take over and pretty much do the opposite of all of this which will at least put us on the right, common sense, Conservative track in this country

              Romney will NOT bail out Wall St and he will go in there and throw in jail all the abusive traders, and he will give zero dollars of stimulus thank God

              he will slash handouts to lazy poor people who want to sit on there ass instead of getting a job

              and he will look at all the special projects that liberal special interests and lobbyists love and slash the hell out of all of them!

              Romney has a little thing called COMMON SENSE, so when someone comes to him looking for a handout to build a bridge, he will say "and where is this bridge going?" and the lobbyist will say "nowhere" and Romney will say "nowhere huh......GET THE HELL OUT OF MY OFFICE YOU LAZY SPECIAL INTEREST SOCIALIST ELITE LIBERAL LOBBYIST"

              we will make America great again, just wait until November
              You were doing so well until you showed a complete lack of awareness of how Romney will proceed.



              "Romney’s tax plan would cut his own taxes by nearly half, new analysis finds"

              Now .. if the rich are going to be paying even less .. and the poor are still going to be paying nothing .... the middle class will be on the hook for even more taxes under Romney.

              .... apart from that ... nice try. Thanks for playing ... please do try harder next time.



              Mr. Romney’s tax plan — which calls for permanently extending the Bush administration’s tax cuts, reducing the corporate income tax rate and eliminating the estate tax — would cut the taxes of people earning more than a million dollars a year by an average of $295,874, according to an analysis by the Tax Policy Center, a nonpartisan research group.

              Since Mr. Romney would also allow some of President Obama’s tax cuts to expire, his plan would effectively raise taxes on some people earning less than $40,000 a year. The Romney tax plan would add to the deficit by reducing federal revenues by $600 billion in 2015, a 16 percent cut, the center found.

              Stimulus - Flip flop - both for and against .. tell them what they want to hear




              In the hard cover edition of his book, No Apology: The Case For American Greatness, Romney wrote that the “'all-Democrat' stimulus that passed in early 2009 will accelerate the timing of the start of the recovery.”

              Yet, as reporter Thomas Burr, of The Salt Lake Tribune, noted, the subsequent paperback version of Romney's book was edited to say that "the 'all-Democrat' stimulus passed in early 2009 has been a failure."

              The edits most likely were made because of the ferocity with which the GOP and its conservative base opposed Obama's stimulus.
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              • YouMama
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 01-04-12
                • 727

                #8
                Originally posted by frostno98
                President Obama is the greatest President ever, enuff said!
                ... I think that may have been FDR
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                • MC PICKS
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                  • 01-10-10
                  • 6644

                  #9
                  Reagan was the greatest president ever.
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                  • guitarjosh
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 12-25-07
                    • 5458

                    #10
                    Originally posted by YouMama
                    ... I think that may have been FDR
                    Only if you're talking about destroying the country.
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                    • golfrulz
                      SBR MVP
                      • 02-02-10
                      • 2425

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ** PICKS
                      Reagan was the greatest president ever.
                      ur joking right
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                      • Hawkeye2011
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 12-12-11
                        • 840

                        #12
                        Originally posted by frostno98
                        President Obama is the greatest President ever, enuff said!
                        This coming from a broke dikk non pro
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                        • theblueprint
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 10-29-11
                          • 276

                          #13
                          Blah blah blah
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                          • SBRMAN23
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                            • 01-07-11
                            • 6906

                            #14
                            Please stop these threads when we have ten of them already wtf
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                            • wtf
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                              • 08-22-08
                              • 12983

                              #15
                              Originally posted by frostno98
                              President Obama is the greatest President ever, enuff said!
                              spoken like a true brotha, keeping it real
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                              • andywend
                                SBR MVP
                                • 05-20-07
                                • 4805

                                #16
                                Originally posted by C-Gold
                                Obama is a great President for the Rich: Never raised taxes, bailed out wall street, never cracked down on abusive trading, gave the market a trillion dollars in stimulus, and the stock market goes up. Rich people own stocks, stock market goes up, Rich people make money, wall street gives more money to Obama for his next election campaign. Obama is a great President for the Poor. They don't call him the food stamps president for nothing. 46 million on food stamps. Why work a min wage job when you can get 99 weeks of unemployment for free or get welfare, free house, free food, free health care? Poor people love Obama. Obama is an awful President for the middle class. 50% of people don't pay anything in taxes, the poor certainly don't pay, the Rich have trusts and accountants reduce their taxes to 15% so who gets stuck paying the bill? Probably YOU and Me. Instead of asking yourself whether or not you are better off than you were 4 years ago, ask yourself who is going to pay off 16 trillion dollars worth of debt? What's 16 trillion divided by 300 million? It's the debt that every man woman and child in America owes. Kick the can down the road, your grand kids will be paying back the "stimulus" trillion of debt. Was it worth it? Bridges to nowhere? Not firing underperforming teachers?
                                This statement is true of the entire democratic party and NOT just Barack Obama.

                                The democratic party platform favors the ultra wealthy and the ultra poor. Everyone else in between gets screwed.

                                ObamaCare is a prime example of this:
                                Under our current medical care delivery system, the wealthy and the middle class (even the lower working middle class) get very close to the same health care. They go to the same hospitals and see the same Doctors and have the same access to the vast array of specialists. The bottom 10% who refuse to lift their share of the load get stuck with county type care which is more than they deserve.

                                Under socialized medical care delivery systems throughout the world/ObamaCare, there are always pockets of private practice medicine available for the wealthy. You don't have to deal with the rationing of medical care services, don't have to wait nearly as long and receive a much higher quality level of care but you have to have the financial resources to pay for it. The bottom 10% wind up seeing very little change in the medical care they receive as county type care is the norm.

                                The group of people who get ABSOLUTELY SCREWED under socialized medicine is the middle class. Instead of enjoying the high quality medical care that the wealthy get under our current system, the entire middle class gets thrown into the socialized medical care system and do NOT have the ability to "opt out".

                                Whats really terrible is that socialized medicine will work reasonably well in the very beginning as it sucks the excess productive capacity that our current private practice system leaves behind. However, once this excess capacity gets eroded by socialized medicine, things turn bad quite quickly and you just can't switch back to what we had before as the entire foundation of private practice medicine has to be totally rebuilt.

                                Most working class liberal democrats oppose socialized medicine as well but are so blinded by their democratic party loyalty, they support their party's decision to try and socialize our country's medical care. More free-thinking liberal democrats know exactly what I'm saying is true.

                                To be fair, the same blind loyalty occurs within the republican party ranks. A recent example of this is conservatives lashing out against Obama for forcing catholics to have birth control covered within their medical insurance.

                                You have to be close to BRAIN DEAD to oppose legislation that provides easy and free access to birth control products for all. The last thing this world needs is for poor people to have more children in the name of religion. Most republicans realize this but also know if they publicly show their support, it would mean the loss of the religious right and the end of the republican party.
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                                • Hotdiggity11
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                                  • 01-09-09
                                  • 4916

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by C-Gold
                                  Obama is a great President for the Rich:

                                  Never raised taxes, bailed out wall street, never cracked down on abusive trading, gave the market a trillion dollars in stimulus, and the stock market goes up. Rich people own stocks, stock market goes up, Rich people make money, wall street gives more money to Obama for his next election campaign.

                                  Obama is a great President for the Poor.

                                  They don't call him the food stamps president for nothing. 46 million on food stamps. Why work a min wage job when you can get 99 weeks of unemployment for free or get welfare, free house, free food, free health care? Poor people love Obama.

                                  Obama is an awful President for the middle class.


                                  50% of people don't pay anything in taxes, the poor certainly don't pay, the Rich have trusts and accountants reduce their taxes to 15% so who gets stuck paying the bill? Probably YOU and Me.

                                  Instead of asking yourself whether or not you are better off than you were 4 years ago, ask yourself who is going to pay off 16 trillion dollars worth of debt? What's 16 trillion divided by 300 million? It's the debt that every man woman and child in America owes. Kick the can down the road, your grand kids will be paying back the "stimulus" trillion of debt. Was it worth it? Bridges to nowhere? Not firing underperforming teachers?

                                  1. Obama didn't bail out Wall Street, Bush did. Obama bailed out the auto industry which, while has strong connections to Wall Street, pales in comparison to the banks bailouts.

                                  2. The stock market goes up as people become more optimistic about the economic climate and become more willing to invest. That's hardly a strictly pro-rich incentive as people in the middle class also invest.

                                  3. Food stamps and unemployment benefits became necessary when the economy was in the shitter. Much of it will slowly phase out. In fact, the recent Democratic proposal slowly phases out unemployment benefits.

                                  4. Actually, pretty much everyone who pays taxes. When you purchase an item, you pay taxes. You have this confused with income taxes. Which, technically, is also incorrect. If you work, you pay income taxes. However, many people in the middle class get back more from tax cuts, tax loopholes, tax incentives, etc than they pay in taxes thus they get a return [They still paid taxes but they got more than they paid].
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                                  • Hotdiggity11
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                                    • 01-09-09
                                    • 4916

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by CarpeDime
                                    could not of said it better myself

                                    but Obama will be GONE soon, THANK GOD, and Romney will take over and pretty much do the opposite of all of this which will at least put us on the right, common sense, Conservative track in this country

                                    Romney will NOT bail out Wall St and he will go in there and throw in jail all the abusive traders, and he will give zero dollars of stimulus thank God

                                    he will slash handouts to lazy poor people who want to sit on there ass instead of getting a job

                                    and he will look at all the special projects that liberal special interests and lobbyists love and slash the hell out of all of them!

                                    Romney has a little thing called COMMON SENSE, so when someone comes to him looking for a handout to build a bridge, he will say "and where is this bridge going?" and the lobbyist will say "nowhere" and Romney will say "nowhere huh......GET THE HELL OUT OF MY OFFICE YOU LAZY SPECIAL INTEREST SOCIALIST ELITE LIBERAL LOBBYIST"

                                    we will make America great again, just wait until November

                                    Not bail out Wall Street? He's going to set records for most money given to him by Wall Street. He is getting 5x more money from Wall Street than Obama is. Doesn't like lobbyists? LOL what? Romney loves social projects too. I guess you have never heard of his health care bill in Massachusetts?
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                                    • YouMama
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                                      • 01-04-12
                                      • 727

                                      #19
                                      WallStreet gives both canidates a decent amount of money... they hedge... if u think romney will go in and arrest anyone in wallstreet, u are on crack, they are protected by the us shadow government, romney would be "assinated" the next week
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                                      • madmaxx
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                                        • 03-14-07
                                        • 3289

                                        #20
                                        Anyone who thinks Romney will beat Obama in an election is not only delusional but a fukking retard
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                                        • madmaxx
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                                          • 03-14-07
                                          • 3289

                                          #21
                                          Romney cant even win the red states because he is mormon, which is equally as bad as being black in the south.
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                                          • Enkhbat
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                                            • 04-18-11
                                            • 3175

                                            #22
                                            Obama is a puppet, so is everyone else who gets to be president
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                                            • Sportsbetting123
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                                              • 03-01-08
                                              • 1400

                                              #23
                                              We just need a flat tax, period, no matter who is President.
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                                              • rkelly110
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                                                • 10-05-09
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                                                #24
                                                You're all on butt crack. Romney's a white Obama. Because he's white, the party of
                                                NO, will finally start saying YES. He would probably be more left that Obama.
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                                                • CarpeDime
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 09-01-09
                                                  • 7873

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by jw
                                                  You were doing so well until you showed a complete lack of awareness of how Romney will proceed.



                                                  "Romney’s tax plan would cut his own taxes by nearly half, new analysis finds"

                                                  Now .. if the rich are going to be paying even less .. and the poor are still going to be paying nothing .... the middle class will be on the hook for even more taxes under Romney.

                                                  .... apart from that ... nice try. Thanks for playing ... please do try harder next time.



                                                  Mr. Romney’s tax plan — which calls for permanently extending the Bush administration’s tax cuts, reducing the corporate income tax rate and eliminating the estate tax — would cut the taxes of people earning more than a million dollars a year by an average of $295,874, according to an analysis by the Tax Policy Center, a nonpartisan research group.

                                                  Since Mr. Romney would also allow some of President Obama’s tax cuts to expire, his plan would effectively raise taxes on some people earning less than $40,000 a year. The Romney tax plan would add to the deficit by reducing federal revenues by $600 billion in 2015, a 16 percent cut, the center found.

                                                  Stimulus - Flip flop - both for and against .. tell them what they want to hear




                                                  In the hard cover edition of his book, No Apology: The Case For American Greatness, Romney wrote that the “'all-Democrat' stimulus that passed in early 2009 will accelerate the timing of the start of the recovery.”

                                                  Yet, as reporter Thomas Burr, of The Salt Lake Tribune, noted, the subsequent paperback version of Romney's book was edited to say that "the 'all-Democrat' stimulus passed in early 2009 has been a failure."

                                                  The edits most likely were made because of the ferocity with which the GOP and its conservative base opposed Obama's stimulus.

                                                  thanks for playing liberal scum and next time hopefully you will do a bit better

                                                  Romney, as is Newt, as is Santorum, is a CONSERVATIVE which means that he has the COMMON SENSE to know that slashing taxes for EVERYONE and ESPECIALLY JOB CREATORS ie rich people will reduce the deficit and create jobs and prosperity

                                                  the middle class will NOT be on the hook for more taxes because a CONSERVATIVE president will CUT TAXES

                                                  whats it like to be uninformed and not understand how the economy works like Obama? I would like to know!


                                                  if you raised taxes on job creators to 100% you would STILL not have enough money to pay off the debt, therefore you should SLASH taxes on EVERYONE and ESPECIALLY job creators if you want to reduce the debt which is what Romney or Newt WOULD DO!

                                                  Conservatives KNOW THIS because they have a teeny tiny little thing called COMMON SENSE which you would not know anything about

                                                  But whoever it is will beat Obama in November so i hate to disappoint you but America will soon be great again which I know is something you do not want but we are going to make it happen ANYWAY
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                                                  • big0mar
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                                                    • 01-09-09
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                                                    #26
                                                    Middle class people have their retirement money where????????

                                                    401k you genius
                                                    [B][B]They key isn't getting rich quick. The key is getting rich slowly, and enjoying it.

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                                                    • YouMama
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                                                      • 01-04-12
                                                      • 727

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by CarpeDime
                                                      thanks for playing liberal scum and next time hopefully you will do a bit better Romney, as is Newt, as is Santorum, is a CONSERVATIVE which means that he has the COMMON SENSE to know that slashing taxes for EVERYONE and ESPECIALLY JOB CREATORS ie rich people will reduce the deficit and create jobs and prosperity the middle class will NOT be on the hook for more taxes because a CONSERVATIVE president will CUT TAXES whats it like to be uninformed and not understand how the economy works like Obama? I would like to know! if you raised taxes on job creators to 100% you would STILL not have enough money to pay off the debt, therefore you should SLASH taxes on EVERYONE and ESPECIALLY job creators if you want to reduce the debt which is what Romney or Newt WOULD DO! Conservatives KNOW THIS because they have a teeny tiny little thing called COMMON SENSE which you would not know anything about But whoever it is will beat Obama in November so i hate to disappoint you but America will soon be great again which I know is something you do not want but we are going to make it happen ANYWAY
                                                      that argument would hold more water if bush hadnt of slashed taxes for 8 yrs & ran the economy into the shltter, & actually lost jobs... weither u agree with that or not... it happened, and all the democrats have to do to nulify that argument, is point that out... which they do, and will in the debates.

                                                      thats why anyone with common sense can see Obama is gonna win, easily
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                                                      • thetrinity
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                                                        • 01-25-11
                                                        • 22444

                                                        #28
                                                        most presidents rnt good for the middle class
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                                                        • john230
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                                                          • 07-24-11
                                                          • 721

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by ** PICKS
                                                          Reagan was the greatest president ever.

                                                          That honor would probably be bestowed upon Abe Lincoln.
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                                                          • CarpeDime
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 09-01-09
                                                            • 7873

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by YouMama
                                                            that argument would hold more water if bush hadnt of slashed taxes for 8 yrs & ran the economy into the shltter, & actually lost jobs... weither u agree with that or not... it happened, and all the democrats have to do to nulify that argument, is point that out... which they do, and will in the debates.

                                                            thats why anyone with common sense can see Obama is gonna win, easily


                                                            bush was TRYING to create jobs but who wouldnt let him?? Congress.....controlled by?.........DEMOCRATS!!!!!

                                                            Which just goes to PROVE that liberal policies FAIL. We already HAD a whole decade of liberal policies in the 00s and look what happened!! What more proof do you need??????

                                                            but its ok because once romney or newt gets into the white house we will be great again
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                                                            • jjgold
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 07-20-05
                                                              • 388208

                                                              #31
                                                              Obama made rich people richer

                                                              The middle class and poor got buried under Obama
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                                                              • DOMINATER
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                                                                • 12-10-09
                                                                • 3698

                                                                #32
                                                                Iloved president Regan and voted for him twice when he died I watched everthing and felt the pain, but he also was the mind behind sending all low paying manual work out of the country and much to Mexico. As soon as middle class and educated jobs filled its positions,the lower class had no work to goto it was sent to all the other countries that would work for 50 cents a day .
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                                                                • YouMama
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                                                                  • 01-04-12
                                                                  • 727

                                                                  #33
                                                                  <table class="wikitable sortable jquery-tablesorter" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="2"><tbody><tr><td>43</td> <td>George W. Bush</td> <td>Republican</td> <td> 6</td> <td> 4</td> <td> 2</td> <td> 4</td> <td>
                                                                  </td> <td>
                                                                  </td> <td>
                                                                  </td> </tr> <tr> <td>44</td> <td>Barack Obama</td> <td>Democratic</td> <td> 2</td> <td> 3</td> <td> 1</td> <td> 0</td> <td>
                                                                  </td> <td>
                                                                  </td> <td>
                                                                  </td> </tr> </tbody><tfoot><tr bgcolor="#CCCCCC" valign="bottom"> <th>#</th> <th>President</th> <th>Party</th> <th>House with (years)</th> <th>Senate with (years)</th> <th>House opposed (years)</th> <th>Senate opposed (years)</th> <th>Years served</th> <th>Elections won</th> <th>Ranking in CSPAN 2009 poll
                                                                  </th></tr></tfoot></table>
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                                                                  • jw
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by CarpeDime
                                                                    the middle class will NOT be on the hook for more taxes because a CONSERVATIVE president will CUT TAXES
                                                                    You didn't look at the articles did you ?

                                                                    The Romney tax plan would add to the deficit by reducing federal revenues by $600 billion in 2015



                                                                    Originally posted by CarpeDime
                                                                    But whoever it is will beat Obama in November so i hate to disappoint you but America will soon be great again which I know is something you do not want but we are going to make it happen ANYWAY
                                                                    I love the confidence .. I still have plenty of points I'm willing to bet if you really do believe this.
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                                                                    • dante1
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                                                                      • 10-31-05
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      WoW! The conservatives are really getting nasty aren't they. Ton of angry talk from these guys, also a ton of really stupid talk. I'm afraid some of them see the handwriting on the wall. Two in particular are very angry. I'm loving it. Stay angry guys, it amuses me. Of course, you have reason to be angry--four more years.
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