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  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #1
    Whats Insane At Betfair
    2:00 AM UK Time one tennis match left..maybe like the 200th ranked players in 1st round of a small tourney get more betting volume than Pinnacle does all week on all sports

    Is just out of control
  • horja1
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 01-13-11
    • 5646

    #2
    what's the match? and the volume?
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    • jjgold
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-20-05
      • 388179

      #3
      No idea..............this was last night and last match going

      I am not home Son

      Today they will get plenty of action but much more matches so will be spread out more
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      • jjgold
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 07-20-05
        • 388179

        #4
        <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="3" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td nowrap="nowrap">O Rochus v Kohlschreiber

        </td> <td>
        </td> <td class="right" width="100%"> ..playing now..my uk contact alerted me
        </td></tr></tbody></table>Matched: USD 2,039,859
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        • Ruifgalmeida
          SBR MVP
          • 04-23-08
          • 2024

          #5
          90% of that money is traded, only about 10% is punters money
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          • jjgold
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 07-20-05
            • 388179

            #6
            Originally posted by Ruifgalmeida
            90% of that money is traded, only about 10% is punters money
            What do you mean?
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            • Ruifgalmeida
              SBR MVP
              • 04-23-08
              • 2024

              #7
              only 10% are real bets, the rest of the money is money that goes back and foward
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              • FourLengthsClear
                SBR MVP
                • 12-29-10
                • 3808

                #8
                Originally posted by jjgold
                What do you mean?
                It means that the total exposure is a fraction of the matched amount.

                If I back and lay the same player at odds of 2.00 for GBP 10,000.
                My exposure is zero and BetFair would show this as GBP 40,000 matched.

                In all likelihood another trader is on the other side of most of those transactions.

                Across all Betfair markets the amount actually risked is around 20% of the amount matched but that figure is lower of in-play/live markets.
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                • jjgold
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 07-20-05
                  • 388179

                  #9
                  Originally posted by FourLengthsClear
                  It means that the total exposure is a fraction of the matched amount.

                  If I back and lay the same player at odds of 2.00 for GBP 10,000.
                  My exposure is zero and BetFair would show this as GBP 40,000 matched.

                  In all likelihood another trader is on the other side of most of those transactions.

                  Across all Betfair markets the amount actually risked is around 20% of the amount matched but that figure is lower of in-play/live markets.

                  Ok................well it equates to unreal low juice and liquidity on all sports which is what we need
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                  • FourLengthsClear
                    SBR MVP
                    • 12-29-10
                    • 3808

                    #10
                    Originally posted by jjgold
                    Ok................well it equates to unreal low juice and liquidity on all sports which is what we need
                    Agreed. During the Men's Aussie Open final, GBP 46m was traded in-play and the market traded at 100.5% or less overround (-101 equivalent) the whole time. As a player/bettor you can't really ask for better than that.
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                    • jjgold
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 07-20-05
                      • 388179

                      #11
                      4 lengths lets go partners
                      50k each and you make all decisions

                      I just want reports daily at end of business day
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                      • FourLengthsClear
                        SBR MVP
                        • 12-29-10
                        • 3808

                        #12
                        Originally posted by jjgold
                        4 lengths lets go partners
                        50k each and you make all decisions

                        I just want reports daily at end of business day
                        I only have one investor/hedge fund partner JJ, that's my dad and he is in for a bit more than 50k. When he came on board, the stress of gambling/trading money that wasn't my own wasn't pleasant. Not a lot of upside to your 'proposal' for me.
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                        • shari91
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 02-23-10
                          • 32661

                          #13
                          Originally posted by jjgold
                          4 lengths lets go partners
                          50k each and you make all decisions

                          I just want reports daily at end of business day


                          I'd pay him 51k just to take your money and then tell you to chew cement.

                          WTF kind of deal is that pal?
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                          • jjgold
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 07-20-05
                            • 388179

                            #14
                            Ok

                            Thanks man
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                            • RealSlimShady
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 12-24-07
                              • 6249

                              #15
                              Originally posted by shari91


                              I'd pay him 51k just to take your money and then tell you to chew cement.

                              WTF kind of deal is that pal?

                              Someone must have beat you to it, Shari.
                              JJ's crooked teeth look like they have done plenty of cement chewing......
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                              • tevari
                                SBR MVP
                                • 02-02-07
                                • 4959

                                #16
                                Originally posted by shari91


                                I'd pay him 51k just to take your money and then tell you to chew cement.

                                WTF kind of deal is that pal?
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                                • flyingillini
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 12-06-06
                                  • 41219

                                  #17
                                  Sbobet for all your tennis needs.
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                                  • chance
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 06-16-08
                                    • 682

                                    #18
                                    The 60 million traded on the Aussie Open Men's final match winner market is pretty impressive.

                                    The Aussie side of Betfair have yet to turn a profit yet though.
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                                    • jjgold
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 07-20-05
                                      • 388179

                                      #19
                                      Dont know whats so funny with a $50k split???

                                      Huh??

                                      4Lenghts I can do a fast transfer uk to uk bank 3 hrs tops to clear
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                                      • gregm
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 03-14-11
                                        • 3535

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by flyingillini
                                        Sbobet for all your tennis needs.
                                        I have all these books up when looking at lines and this book almost always has some of the best soccer lines, asian handicaps,etc. In soccer at least, in baseball and tennis I havent seen very good lines being offered, maybe I have to pay more attention. When you read the trades, this book seems to always be talked of highly. I would give anything to play at some of these Asian books.
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                                        • jjgold
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 07-20-05
                                          • 388179

                                          #21
                                          SBOBET is only for for soccer

                                          The rest of the sports are juiced up lines like a UK Book
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                                          • FourLengthsClear
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 12-29-10
                                            • 3808

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by jjgold
                                            Dont know whats so funny with a $50k split???

                                            Huh??

                                            4Lenghts I can do a fast transfer uk to uk bank 3 hrs tops to clear
                                            Most domestic banks are part of the FPS which means that bank to bank transfers should take 2 hours max.
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                                            • Hareeba!
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 07-01-06
                                              • 37332

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by gregm
                                              I have all these books up when looking at lines and this book almost always has some of the best soccer lines, asian handicaps,etc. In soccer at least, in baseball and tennis I havent seen very good lines being offered, maybe I have to pay more attention. When you read the trades, this book seems to always be talked of highly. I would give anything to play at some of these Asian books.
                                              SBO is primarily a soccer book.

                                              Whereas you can get top odds on other sports at times the limits are very much lower than for soccer.

                                              Typically for tennis they limit to $741, sometimes only half that
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                                              • gregm
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 03-14-11
                                                • 3535

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Hareeba!
                                                SBO is primarily a soccer book.

                                                Whereas you can get top odds on other sports at times the limits are very much lower than for soccer.

                                                Typically for tennis they limit to $741, sometimes only half that
                                                Thanks Hareeba. I definitely am impressed with their lines for soccer. Licensed out of the Isle of man is probably for the good as well, I have seen them on west ham shirts before and been reading about them, I have yet to see much negative press on them.

                                                Seems like alot of money behind this book, surprised to not see them rated on here with betfair and william hill and alot of these other books.
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                                                • jjgold
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                  • 388179

                                                  #25
                                                  SBOBET one of safest books in the world, its a must have for soccer..same as Pinny but i think higher limits
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                                                  • flyingillini
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 12-06-06
                                                    • 41219

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                                    SBOBET one of safest books in the world, its a must have for soccer..same as Pinny but i think higher limits

                                                    SBobet gets all of my soccer action.
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                                                    • TennisProFrance
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 10-09-11
                                                      • 395

                                                      #27
                                                      Better prices for almost all football (soccer as you call it) games on betfair when compared to SBO or any other asain. 9/10 of all my football bets go through bf.
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                                                      • Hareeba!
                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                        • 07-01-06
                                                        • 37332

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by TennisProFrance
                                                        Better prices for almost all football (soccer as you call it) games on betfair when compared to SBO or any other asain. 9/10 of all my football bets go through bf.
                                                        Bit surprised at that TPF

                                                        Do you bet AH or only 1X2?
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                                                        • King_Suckerman
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 04-12-09
                                                          • 945

                                                          #29
                                                          must be on 1% commission
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                                                          • Hareeba!
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 07-01-06
                                                            • 37332

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by King_Suckerman
                                                            must be on 1% commission
                                                            I thought the lowest rate at BF is 2%?
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                                                            • jjgold
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 07-20-05
                                                              • 388179

                                                              #31
                                                              I do not think though On a lot of leagues you can get down 5k on Asian handicaps at Betfair as volume lacks compared to SBOBET where you can get down that every time in many of top league Asian handicaps.

                                                              Betfair is mainly a match Odds operation
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                                                              • Jaug
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 01-11-09
                                                                • 3087

                                                                #32
                                                                Insane
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                                                                • tommygun
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 07-01-10
                                                                  • 2239

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                  I do not think though On a lot of leagues you can get down 5k on Asian handicaps at Betfair as volume lacks compared to SBOBET where you can get down that every time in many of top league Asian handicaps. Betfair is mainly a match Odds operation

                                                                  you wouldnt even know, you would not even know
                                                                  BETTING EXCHANGES, easy money.

                                                                  Soccer Tipping: 5-0-1
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                                                                  • FourLengthsClear
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 12-29-10
                                                                    • 3808

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Hareeba!
                                                                    I thought the lowest rate at BF is 2%?
                                                                    It is and I am not even close to that level.
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                                                                    • jjgold
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 07-20-05
                                                                      • 388179

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by tommygun
                                                                      you wouldnt even know, you would not even know
                                                                      Yeh I would..worst thing you can do is underestimate someone..its one of reasons I school everyone on forums
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