Whats Insane At Betfair

horja1 · 01-31-12, 07:17 AM

what's the match? and the volume?

jjgold · 01-31-12, 07:20 AM

No idea..............this was last night and last match going

I am not home Son

Today they will get plenty of action but much more matches so will be spread out more

jjgold · 01-31-12, 07:22 AM

<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="3" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td nowrap="nowrap">O Rochus v Kohlschreiber

</td> <td>
</td> <td class="right" width="100%"> ..playing now..my uk contact alerted me
</td></tr></tbody></table>Matched: USD 2,039,859

Ruifgalmeida · 01-31-12, 08:31 AM

90% of that money is traded, only about 10% is punters money

jjgold · 01-31-12, 08:33 AM

Originally posted by Ruifgalmeida

90% of that money is traded, only about 10% is punters money

What do you mean?

Ruifgalmeida · 01-31-12, 08:35 AM

only 10% are real bets, the rest of the money is money that goes back and foward

FourLengthsClear · 01-31-12, 08:45 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

What do you mean?

It means that the total exposure is a fraction of the matched amount.

If I back and lay the same player at odds of 2.00 for GBP 10,000.
My exposure is zero and BetFair would show this as GBP 40,000 matched.

In all likelihood another trader is on the other side of most of those transactions.

Across all Betfair markets the amount actually risked is around 20% of the amount matched but that figure is lower of in-play/live markets.

jjgold · 01-31-12, 09:13 AM

Originally posted by FourLengthsClear

It means that the total exposure is a fraction of the matched amount.

If I back and lay the same player at odds of 2.00 for GBP 10,000.
My exposure is zero and BetFair would show this as GBP 40,000 matched.

In all likelihood another trader is on the other side of most of those transactions.

Across all Betfair markets the amount actually risked is around 20% of the amount matched but that figure is lower of in-play/live markets.

Ok................well it equates to unreal low juice and liquidity on all sports which is what we need

FourLengthsClear · 01-31-12, 09:20 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Ok................well it equates to unreal low juice and liquidity on all sports which is what we need

Agreed. During the Men's Aussie Open final, GBP 46m was traded in-play and the market traded at 100.5% or less overround (-101 equivalent) the whole time. As a player/bettor you can't really ask for better than that.

jjgold · 01-31-12, 11:51 AM

4 lengths lets go partners
50k each and you make all decisions

I just want reports daily at end of business day

FourLengthsClear · 01-31-12, 12:02 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

4 lengths lets go partners
50k each and you make all decisions

I just want reports daily at end of business day

I only have one investor/hedge fund partner JJ, that's my dad and he is in for a bit more than 50k. When he came on board, the stress of gambling/trading money that wasn't my own wasn't pleasant. Not a lot of upside to your 'proposal' for me.

shari91 · 01-31-12, 12:08 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

4 lengths lets go partners
50k each and you make all decisions

I just want reports daily at end of business day

I'd pay him 51k just to take your money and then tell you to chew cement.

WTF kind of deal is that pal?

jjgold · 01-31-12, 12:08 PM

Ok

Thanks man

RealSlimShady · 01-31-12, 12:53 PM

Originally posted by shari91

I'd pay him 51k just to take your money and then tell you to chew cement.

WTF kind of deal is that pal?

Someone must have beat you to it, Shari.
JJ's crooked teeth look like they have done plenty of cement chewing......

tevari · 01-31-12, 12:53 PM

Originally posted by shari91

I'd pay him 51k just to take your money and then tell you to chew cement.

WTF kind of deal is that pal?

flyingillini · 01-31-12, 12:55 PM

Sbobet for all your tennis needs.

chance · 01-31-12, 03:14 PM

The 60 million traded on the Aussie Open Men's final match winner market is pretty impressive.

The Aussie side of Betfair have yet to turn a profit yet though.

jjgold · 01-31-12, 03:34 PM

Dont know whats so funny with a $50k split???

Huh??

4Lenghts I can do a fast transfer uk to uk bank 3 hrs tops to clear

gregm · 01-31-12, 03:38 PM

Originally posted by flyingillini

Sbobet for all your tennis needs.

I have all these books up when looking at lines and this book almost always has some of the best soccer lines, asian handicaps,etc. In soccer at least, in baseball and tennis I havent seen very good lines being offered, maybe I have to pay more attention. When you read the trades, this book seems to always be talked of highly. I would give anything to play at some of these Asian books.

jjgold · 01-31-12, 03:40 PM

SBOBET is only for for soccer

The rest of the sports are juiced up lines like a UK Book

FourLengthsClear · 01-31-12, 04:14 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Dont know whats so funny with a $50k split???

Huh??

4Lenghts I can do a fast transfer uk to uk bank 3 hrs tops to clear

Most domestic banks are part of the FPS which means that bank to bank transfers should take 2 hours max.

Hareeba! · 01-31-12, 04:18 PM

Originally posted by gregm

I have all these books up when looking at lines and this book almost always has some of the best soccer lines, asian handicaps,etc. In soccer at least, in baseball and tennis I havent seen very good lines being offered, maybe I have to pay more attention. When you read the trades, this book seems to always be talked of highly. I would give anything to play at some of these Asian books.

SBO is primarily a soccer book.

Whereas you can get top odds on other sports at times the limits are very much lower than for soccer.

Typically for tennis they limit to $741, sometimes only half that

gregm · 01-31-12, 08:49 PM

Originally posted by Hareeba!

SBO is primarily a soccer book.

Whereas you can get top odds on other sports at times the limits are very much lower than for soccer.

Typically for tennis they limit to $741, sometimes only half that

Thanks Hareeba. I definitely am impressed with their lines for soccer. Licensed out of the Isle of man is probably for the good as well, I have seen them on west ham shirts before and been reading about them, I have yet to see much negative press on them.

Seems like alot of money behind this book, surprised to not see them rated on here with betfair and william hill and alot of these other books.

jjgold · 01-31-12, 08:56 PM

SBOBET one of safest books in the world, its a must have for soccer..same as Pinny but i think higher limits

flyingillini · 01-31-12, 09:09 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

SBOBET one of safest books in the world, its a must have for soccer..same as Pinny but i think higher limits

SBobet gets all of my soccer action.

TennisProFrance · 02-01-12, 04:36 AM

Better prices for almost all football (soccer as you call it) games on betfair when compared to SBO or any other asain. 9/10 of all my football bets go through bf.

Hareeba! · 02-01-12, 04:45 AM

Originally posted by TennisProFrance

Better prices for almost all football (soccer as you call it) games on betfair when compared to SBO or any other asain. 9/10 of all my football bets go through bf.

Bit surprised at that TPF

Do you bet AH or only 1X2?

King_Suckerman · 02-01-12, 01:41 PM

must be on 1% commission

Hareeba! · 02-01-12, 03:47 PM

Originally posted by King_Suckerman

must be on 1% commission

I thought the lowest rate at BF is 2%?

jjgold · 02-01-12, 03:59 PM

I do not think though On a lot of leagues you can get down 5k on Asian handicaps at Betfair as volume lacks compared to SBOBET where you can get down that every time in many of top league Asian handicaps.

Betfair is mainly a match Odds operation

Jaug · 02-01-12, 04:18 PM

Insane

tommygun · 02-01-12, 04:20 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

I do not think though On a lot of leagues you can get down 5k on Asian handicaps at Betfair as volume lacks compared to SBOBET where you can get down that every time in many of top league Asian handicaps. Betfair is mainly a match Odds operation

you wouldnt even know, you would not even know

FourLengthsClear · 02-01-12, 04:23 PM

Originally posted by Hareeba!

I thought the lowest rate at BF is 2%?

It is and I am not even close to that level.

jjgold · 02-01-12, 04:35 PM

Originally posted by tommygun

you wouldnt even know, you would not even know

Yeh I would..worst thing you can do is underestimate someone

..its one of reasons I school everyone on forums