Jordan Thinks Only Kobe Deserves To Be Compared To Him

[convick]

Comparing anyone to 45 is just terribly stupid. Chances are your 18-20 years old and don't remember his airness. When 23 was in his prime there was NO doubt who was winning that game. None. Jordan was a much better defender and better offensive player. Kobe played with an all time top fukin 5 center. You dumb fuks , shaq was one of the most dominate players of all time!
Another thing one has to consider is the era in which they played in. Todays NBA is shit compared to 15-20 years ago. The competition is a fukin joke beyond fukin belief. The rockets of the early 90's would win 4-6 titles over the last 8-10 years. The knocks of the 90's would rule the day. Along with many other teams. Combine that with fact that the NBA rules are so a fukin joke and its no contest. I'm not sure what league is worse , the NBA or NFL?

You're insane. The Rockets only won their titles because Jordan "retired". Olajuwon is an all-time great and he carried those two squads over a Magic squad that were today's equivalent of OKC Thunder and one of the best Knicks squad in the past 25 years.

Point is, the league has always had 5-6 squads in title cotention. Jordan/Pippen would have won 8 in a row, no one will likely reach that level of dominance.

[crustyme]

Lol. Pau will be in the HOF obviously, are you this stupid?

Did Jordan shoot 28% on game winners in the playoffs? no, that would be Kobe. Jordan shot an incredible 50%

Let's look at finals stats.

Kobe 24 5 5 not bad

Jordan 34 6 6

Total points. Jordan 32,292
Kobe 25,790

Like I said im a Kobe fan, but this is just embarrassing to compare.

Wow! And that's with Jordan not being able to hit 3's

We can compare points, rebounds, assists, steals, rings, etc. Jordan is better in every single one. Period.

this is almost as bad your Palmer argument. Hey, how'd he do again?

pau, a hall of famer?

he scored 20ppg just 2 out 12 seasons. grabbed 10 rebs just 2 out of 12 seasons. and how many playoff games did he win when not playing with kobe? 0. went 0-12 in post-season. kinda like how jokedon went 1-9 without pippen. if he's a hall of famer so are david lee, brook lopez and chris kaman.



jokedon scored 33.6ppg in the finals as the #1 option in all 6 finals. kobe scored 32.4ppg in the 2009 finals when he wasn't a #2 option as he was in the first 3 finals with shaq. not to mention jokedon got a whopping 350 free throw attempts in the finals (yeah, no preferential treatment there ), which is nearly 200 more than kobe.



palmer was 4th in the league in yards per attempt, 7th in yards per game, among the league leaders in passing yards, touchdowns and completions over 20 yards (since he became a starter). he even had more passing yards than starters with more starts such as mccoy, moore, gabbert and others. but it's all his fault they didn't make the playoffs not the defense that blew double digit leads in several games, right?



again, do you follow sports or just talk out of your ass all the time?

[ThaTopMoron]

LeBron doesn't put in work to improve the easiest of things, like FT shooting... that's why he is a bitch-ass and will always be nothing but a bitch, scared when it comes down to the biggest of big, the NBA Finals.

here's to hoping Wade and whoever doesn't carry his ass thru a Finals in the clutch moments to win it.

[zsr]

Your not even worth arguing with. Weird how your only comeback is, JORDAN GOT MORE FREE THROW ATTEMPTS! Like I said, not even comparable as evidenced by everything I posted. Jordan is significantly better in every single category. Kobe has never done anything without Shaq or pau/Bynum either. Jordan won 6 as the best player on the team, Kobe won two.

And yea, it's the defenses fault, couldn't of been that the quarterback had more picks then touchdowns

Like dlunc pointed out, every single thing you say is just laughable.

[onlooker]

here's to hoping Wade and whoever doesn't carry his ass thru a Finals in the clutch moments to win it.

Hard to carry someone when you have a bum ankle, foot and calf.

If anyone carries that team to a title, it will be Lebron. That is why he is getting so much heat for the Finals last year. No one really expects Wade to carry that team.

[crustyme]

arent you the same clown that said ian kennedy was gonna win cy young?

arent you the same clown that was sucking mark sanchezs dick all season saying he was a great qb (and then never returned to the thread )?

and now this?????

give it up man.. just throw your key board out the window and never post again

back in august, i predicted either ian kennedy or clayton kershaw would win.... with a caveat that only way ian would win is if he won more games than kershaw. he didn't so i was correct.

otoh, you anointed hamels as the winner and claimed kennedy didn't even belong in the conversation for cy young. dead wrong on both accounts. hamels finished a distant 4th. kennedy, who you said didn't belong not only finished ahead of him by a large margin but also received a 1st place vote, something not even cliff lee got.

sanchez had his best season ever with 3500 yds and 32 touchdowns total. most knowledgeable fans would be thrilled with such production out of a 3rd year qb. but we all know you're not very knowledgeable.

[SEAHAWKHARRY]

Michael Jordan says only One player can be compared to him

Kobe Bryant

http://m.yahoo.com/w/ygo-frontpage/lp/story/us/1275421/coke.bp%3B_ylt=A0S02EIOYxZP5kkA.CAp89w4%3B_ylu=X3oDMTI0MmFrc3NoBGNjb2RlAzMEY3BvcwMxBGNzZWMDbW9iaWxlLXRkBGludGwDdXMEcGtnA2lkLTEyNzU0MjEEcG9zAzIEc2xrA3RpdGxl?ref_w=frontdoors&view=today&.tsrc=yahoo&.intl=us&.lang=en

I agree!!!!

[crustyme]

im thinking he bet the heat big and trying to piss off lebron and wade before the lakers come to town thursday.

[jjgold]

I also think Kobe closest thing to Jordan
Both have unreal drive to win and compete unlike any other players ever

[Ace_of_Spades]

I agree with Jordan.

[kobefanatic]

both of them have the staying power, look at both of them
jordan can hang around with the superstars of the 80's and with the superstars of the 90's, same with kobe he hang around the players from the 90's and also the new era like lebron, durant, rose, unlike the other superstars in his time which fell off after sometime like carter, iverson, tmac and the list goes on

[William Walters]

Love the debate....and player hate...in this thread. Just for some clarity.......where are posters from and which team do you root for?

I'm born and raised in SoCal and am obviously a Lakers fan.

[YouMama]

Kobe=Jordon=albert pujols=wyane gretzky=tiger woods=joe montana

Labron=alex rodriguez=manny ramirez=david duval=brett farve

[zsr]

Love the debate....and player hate...in this thread. Just for some clarity.......where are posters from and which team do you root for? I'm born and raised in SoCal and am obviously a Lakers fan.

I think its obvious everyone from LA thinks kobe is the greatest of all time, everyone else in the world thinks its jordan.

Im from chicago and a bulls fan obviously, but every single NBA analyst, player, etc has Jordan number 1. Its really not a comparison. Kobe is top 6 and like i said is the best player currently and has been the best for the past 10 years. Guy has the mentality you need to be dominant in the biggest moments, imagine if lebron had that mentality?

[YouHave2outs]

score 50 pts in 4 consecutive games?

check out how many many more 40 and 50 point games jordan has than kobe. especially in the playoffs. joker.

[William Walters]

I think its obvious everyone from LA thinks kobe is the greatest of all time, everyone else in the world thinks its jordan.

Im from chicago and a bulls fan obviously, but every single NBA analyst, player, etc has Jordan number 1. Its really not a comparison. Kobe is top 6 and like i said is the best player currently and has been the best for the past 10 years. Guy has the mentality you need to be dominant in the biggest moments, imagine if lebron had that mentality?

I think Kobe is one of THE greatest to ever lace em up, but not THE greatest. I'd lean Jordan, but would debate Wilt Chamberlain as possibly THE most "dominant" of all time (not most skilled...or best all-around...but, most "dominant"). I'm not as young as most of the posters on this board........I'm a Lakers "Showtime" nut (Magic/Kareem/Worthy) a bit more than I am a Shaq/Kobe...Kobe/Pau nut. My all time favorite Lakers player is Magic..........there wasn't anything he couldn't do on the court.......even as a 6'9" PG.

[BernardMadoff]

Jordan was referring to accomplishments and work ethic, so he's right, Kobe is the only one playing today that comes close.

[Jonny Fairplay]

Read the first page.....

And anyone who doesn't think Pau Gasol is a HOF clearly has no idea what they are talking about.

[BettingWizard]

Kobe has never won anything without a dominant big man. 40% shooter in the Finals too

[William Walters]

Kobe has never won anything without a dominant big man. 40% shooter in the Finals too

Listen.......I'm a Lakers fan for life.........and believe that Jordan has the edge over Kobe. But, if you want to play this game..............Jordan never won shit without Pippen (on the "50 greatest players in NBA history" list).

BTW.........Magic & Bird never won a title without a dominant big man either.

[BettingWizard]

Listen.......I'm a Lakers fan for life.........and believe that Jordan has the edge over Kobe. But, if you want to play this game..............Jordan never won shit without Pippen (on the "50 greatest players in NBA history" list).

BTW.........Magic & Bird never won a title without a dominant big man either.

Pippen wouldn't be top 50 if he had started his career with any other team. Not knocking the guy, just saying.

Plus.......How many Playoff Series can you say Pippen was just as valuable as Jordan? Only one you can argue is the 1993 ECF, And even in that series Jordan had a 55 pointer, and triple double in the 2 most critical games.

All the other greats that had great teammates, they weren't the "Man" in every single playoff series.

[BernardMadoff]

Listen.......I'm a Lakers fan for life.........and believe that Jordan has the edge over Kobe. But, if you want to play this game..............Jordan never won shit without Pippen (on the "50 greatest players in NBA history" list).

BTW.........Magic & Bird never won a title without a dominant big man either.

And Pippen never should have been on that list to start with.

[dlunc3]

Listen.......I'm a Lakers fan for life.........and believe that Jordan has the edge over Kobe. But, if you want to play this game..............Jordan never won shit without Pippen (on the "50 greatest players in NBA history" list).

BTW.........Magic & Bird never won a title without a dominant big man either.

so why do we hate on lebron... do we not see all he accomplished without even 1 all star on his team, let along a top 50 player or hall of famer???????

[darkhat]

Kobe has never won anything without a dominant big man. 40% shooter in the Finals too

Pau is not a dominant big man. He's an ass clown.

[YOUSENKO]

You realise both Lebron and Kobe can be shut down by good D but not Jordan. He scores anywhere and anytime even with legal hand checking. Prob his height and elasticity is the difference in the GOAT discussion, Kobe is too small.

[raydog]

why do you asshats keep harping on "game winning shots" .. kobe should be comared to mj because he is the next best player we have seen and his game closely resembles mj's ... lebron should never even be mentioned in any sort of best player or closest player to mj, conversations... he has nowhere near the talent mj or kobe does...thats a fact...

if you guys want to keep bitching about closers or last second game winners and shit, the conversation ends with robert horry... horry was the dagger...most clutch shooter to bury games we have seen in the last 15 years...does that mean he is in mj's league, or that reggie miller is in mj's league??? no, so why do people keep harping on this "game winning shot" shit?

[k13]

Jordan played against scrub undersized unathletic SG's most of his career, it was like playing with handicapped kids plus getting every call from refs.

Now every kid in HS can do better dunks than Jordan.

Who the **** was there anyway? Ehlo, Starks, Miller, Richmond, dumars.

We saw what Jordan would be like in the 2000's

[William Walters]

You realise both Lebron and Kobe can be shut down by good D but not Jordan. He scores anywhere and anytime even with legal hand checking. Prob his height and elasticity is the difference in the GOAT discussion, Kobe is too small.

So, Kobe hasn't faced any good defenses out of the 111 times he's scored 40+ points in a game? Put down the glass pipe pal.

WTF are you talking about? Both Jordan & Kobe are 6'6" and weigh within 5-10 pounds of each other.

[big0mar]

Jordan and Kobe are both overrated.

[raydog]

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billy, we cant convince them...no need to try anymore.

[dlunc3]

why do you asshats keep harping on "game winning shots" .. kobe should be comared to mj because he is the next best player we have seen and his game closely resembles mj's ... lebron should never even be mentioned in any sort of best player or closest player to mj, conversations... he has nowhere near the talent mj or kobe does...thats a fact...

if you guys want to keep bitching about closers or last second game winners and shit, the conversation ends with robert horry... horry was the dagger...most clutch shooter to bury games we have seen in the last 15 years...does that mean he is in mj's league, or that reggie miller is in mj's league??? no, so why do people keep harping on this "game winning shot" shit?

#1) lebron is maybe the most gifted and talented athlete of all time.. if he can get his headgame figured out, he could easily be one of the best ever

#2) bc people keep calling kobe "clutch"... when stats prove otherwise

[William Walters]

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#1) lebron is maybe the most gifted and talented athlete of all time.. if he can get his headgame figured out, he could easily be one of the best ever

#2) bc people keep calling kobe "clutch"... when stats prove otherwise

dlunc.........a big part of what makes Kobe clutch has a lot more to do with making BIG baskets at key points of the game. There is a lot more to being "clutch" than taking last second shots.

[Dutchie]

why do you asshats keep harping on "game winning shots" .. kobe should be comared to mj because he is the next best player we have seen and his game closely resembles mj's ... lebron should never even be mentioned in any sort of best player or closest player to mj, conversations... he has nowhere near the talent mj or kobe does...thats a fact...

if you guys want to keep bitching about closers or last second game winners and shit, the conversation ends with robert horry... horry was the dagger...most clutch shooter to bury games we have seen in the last 15 years...does that mean he is in mj's league, or that reggie miller is in mj's league??? no, so why do people keep harping on this "game winning shot" shit?

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[darkhat]

dlunc.........a big part of what makes Kobe clutch has a lot more to do with making BIG baskets at key points of the game. There is a lot more to being "clutch" than taking last second shots.

that's what alot of people don't get. He hits clutch shots at key times..

[Dutchie]

its all about perception, when you start talking "clutch" and people will always believe their perceptions in this regard