McCain: the ultimate hypocrite?

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  • daggerkobe
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 03-25-08
    • 10744

    #1
    McCain: the ultimate hypocrite?
    The Thrill of the Game

    McCain's passion for gambling and taking other risks has never been a secret. He was a Navy flyer, trained in the art of controlled crash landings on aircraft carriers. He spent his youth sneaking booze behind the backs of his schoolmasters and reveling in his stack of demerits. He came of age on shore leave in the casinos of Monte Carlo, in a Navy culture that had long embraced dice in the officers' clubs.

    The moral code of McCain's youth always distinguished between sins of honor and sins of pleasure. "Don't lie, cheat or steal — anything else is fair game," McCain told his son Jack when the boy left for the U.S. Naval Academy at Annapolis, Md. In his memoir, McCain recalls that by his mid-20s, he "had begun to aspire to a reputation for more commendable achievements than long nights of drinking and gambling."

    Over time he gave up the drinking bouts, but he never quite kicked the periodic yen for dice. In the past decade, he has played on Mississippi riverboats, on Indian land, in Caribbean craps pits and along the length of the Las Vegas Strip. Back in 2005 he joined a group of journalists at a magazine-industry conference in Puerto Rico, offering betting strategy on request. "Enjoying craps opens up a window on a central thread constant in John's life," says John Weaver, McCain's former chief strategist, who followed him to many a casino. "Taking a chance, playing against the odds." Aides say McCain tends to play for a few thousand dollars at a time and avoids taking markers, or loans, from the casinos, which he has helped regulate in Congress. "He never, ever plays on the house," says Mark Salter, a McCain adviser. The goal, say several people familiar with his habit, is never financial. He loves the thrill of winning and the camaraderie at the table.

    Only recently have McCain's aides urged him to pull back from the pastime. In the heat of the G.O.P. primary fight last spring, he announced on a visit to the Vegas Strip that he was going to the casino floor. When his aides stopped him, fearing a public relations disaster, McCain suggested that they ask the casino to take a craps table to a private room, a high-roller privilege McCain had indulged in before. His aides, with alarm bells ringing, refused again, according to two accounts of the discussion.

    "He clearly knows that this is on the borderline of what is acceptable for him to be doing," says a Republican who has watched McCain play. "And he just sort of revels in it."


    So McShit wants to snuff out sportsbetting online and in Nevada, the ONLY game where the house has NO edge..... all the while he's losing his ass at craps and even demanding that they put a craps table in his hotel room. A degenerate gambler telling us that gambling is evil. If that's not the ultimate hypocrisy, I don't know what is.
  • englishmike
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 06-19-08
    • 5279

    #2
    The only reason i would be surprised is if anyones surprised.
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    • fiveteamer
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      • 04-14-08
      • 10805

      #3
      You really think this is his own personal decision?
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      • daggerkobe
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        • 03-25-08
        • 10744

        #4
        Originally posted by fiveteamer
        You really think this is his own personal decision?

        Please explain.
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        • fiveteamer
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 04-14-08
          • 10805

          #5
          There are certain things rebublicans must be for, and against.
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          • durito
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            • 07-03-06
            • 13173

            #6
            There are so many examples of the hypocrisy and general lunacy of this guy that for some reason aren't making it all to the mainstream joke media.
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            • SlickFazzer
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 05-22-08
              • 20209

              #7
              I could be wrong here,

              but when asked recently about shutting down online betting, he said it was not currently high on his priority list - or something to that effect.
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              • durito
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                • 07-03-06
                • 13173

                #8
                Originally posted by fiveteamer
                There are certain things rebublicans must be for, and against.
                Except when they are against and for them.
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                • bettilimbroke999
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 02-04-08
                  • 13254

                  #9
                  Precisely, he cant just be prochoice, non-Christian, for sports gambling/internet gambling, etc. regardless of his personal views. Hell everyone has played in a casino in their life but he can't present that image even if that is the reality. Rarely is a person 100% Republican or 100% Democrat, they have their own personal views on certain issues, but those must be kept to themselves to prevent pissing of the party that has to nominate them to ever become President
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                  • fiveteamer
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 04-14-08
                    • 10805

                    #10
                    If you want to take your frustrations out, take them out on the anti gambling lobbyists. I'm sure there are plenty of them in Washington. Or groups like Focus on the Family etc... Guys like Mccain (politicians) don't have any real opinions about anything.
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                    • SlickFazzer
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 05-22-08
                      • 20209

                      #11
                      Originally posted by bettilimbroke999
                      Precisely, he cant just be prochoice, non-Christian, for sports gambling/internet gambling, etc. regardless of his personal views. Hell everyone has played in a casino in their life but he can't present that image even if that is the reality. Rarely is a person 100% Republican or 100% Democrat, they have their own personal views on certain issues, but those must be kept to themselves to prevent pissing of the party that has to nominate them to ever become President
                      second this notion.
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                      • fiveteamer
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                        • 04-14-08
                        • 10805

                        #12








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                        • Deuce
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                          • 01-12-08
                          • 29843

                          #13
                          No one is perfect. He is better than his opponent. I will vote for McCain.
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                          • SlickFazzer
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 05-22-08
                            • 20209

                            #14
                            not a website I have bookmarked
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                            • fiveteamer
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 04-14-08
                              • 10805

                              #15
                              Why vote at all?

                              makes no difference.
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                              • SlickFazzer
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 05-22-08
                                • 20209

                                #16
                                Originally posted by fiveteamer
                                Why vote at all?

                                makes no difference.
                                civic duty some would say....Dont't worry, I won't lose any sleep if you dont vote 5team.
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                                • durito
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                                  • 07-03-06
                                  • 13173

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Deuce
                                  No one is perfect. He is better than his opponent. I will vote for McCain.

                                  Good thing people of your nature generally aren't smart enough to figure out how to vote.
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                                  • fiveteamer
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                                    • 04-14-08
                                    • 10805

                                    #18
                                    if anything, vote nader.
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                                    • daggerkobe
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 03-25-08
                                      • 10744

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by fiveteamer
                                      There are certain things rebublicans must be for, and against.

                                      You mean like the 17 Republicans who voted against UIGEA? Including Ron Paul, who wants to LEGALIZE internet gambling?

                                      Or Jim Gibbons, a Republican, who was the spearhead in the opposition to McCain's bill which would've banned sports betting in Nevada?

                                      So people basically want to vote for a guy who has no independent thought of his own and only wants to please the majority of his party, even though they are clearly different from his own agenda and actions.

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                                      • fiveteamer
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                                        • 04-14-08
                                        • 10805

                                        #20
                                        You are correct.

                                        John McCain has taken a personal stance against gambling because he believes it is morally wrong.
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                                        • daggerkobe
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 03-25-08
                                          • 10744

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by fiveteamer
                                          You are correct.

                                          John McCain has taken a personal stance against gambling because he believes it is morally wrong.

                                          Therein lies the hypocrisy.

                                          "Do as we say, not as we do." - Morality Cops aka GOP
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                                          • fiveteamer
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                                            • 04-14-08
                                            • 10805

                                            #22
                                            well if you believe that, then I have a bridge in San Francisco that I'd like to sell you.
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                                            • daggerkobe
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                                              • 03-25-08
                                              • 10744

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Deuce
                                              No one is perfect. He is better than his opponent. I will vote for McCain.

                                              He's not better if you like to gamble on sports. But if you are anti-abortion, he's your man.
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                                              • TodaysAction
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                                                • 08-01-08
                                                • 12762

                                                #24
                                                Some call McCain "a hypocrite" and know what he's about.

                                                Oboma's plans will raise taxes and the cost for gas.

                                                What would you rather have leading America , a person who is a hypocrite or a person will take more money from you?

                                                Think about it.
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                                                • element1286
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                                                  • 02-25-08
                                                  • 3370

                                                  #25
                                                  Let's be serious they are all hypocrites, that is the only way to get elected.
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                                                  • daggerkobe
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                                                    • 03-25-08
                                                    • 10744

                                                    #26
                                                    Every president has raised taxes. Remember, "Read my lips, no new taxes"?

                                                    Sure, if you're a billionaire business owner, then vote for McCain because he'll lower your taxes. But if you're not, you'll be paying higher taxes.

                                                    And please tell us how Obama will raise gas prices. Afterall, it was a Republican that raised it 4 times the original price, wasn't it?
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                                                    • jtuck
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 02-18-08
                                                      • 2051

                                                      #27
                                                      All politicians that ever want to gain mainstream popularity suck. Ron Paul tried to prove that theory wrong by being a politician who stuck to his word and actually believed what he said and he was mocked in the mainstream media. You can post 100 things McCain has done to make you not want to vote for him. Someone can also post 100 things Obama has done that make people not want to vote for him. At the end of the day they both suck.
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                                                      • purecarnagge
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 10-05-07
                                                        • 4843

                                                        #28
                                                        If ron paul was a 2 term president, the IRS wouldn't even been needed anymore. You realize the only reason was have the IRS is because we have to keep paying for our nations debt?
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                                                        • pimike
                                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                          • 03-23-08
                                                          • 37139

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by purecarnagge
                                                          If ron paul was a 2 term president, the IRS wouldn't even been needed anymore. You realize the only reason was have the IRS is because we have to keep paying for our nations debt?
                                                          Ron Paul will not be nor will ever be President so get over it.
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