Patriots -7 at Miami

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  • BarkingToad
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-31-08
    • 5913

    #71
    I'm with lakerboy on this. Miami has a good defense and 2 good cornerbacks that should slow down passing game. While it was only a preseason game and means nothing, Detroit roughed up Brady a bit. I believe Miami has as good a defense as Detroit.
    Maybe we'll see Bush in wildcat formation? If Miami can't get up for a Monday night prime time home opener against a hated rival, what good are they? If they don't ask much of Henne, while keeping the ball in Bush and Marshall's hands, Miami should keep this close.
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    • babyjesus
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 03-17-11
      • 994

      #72
      I do like the pats, but have been reading some stuff that has me wanting to say dophins spread. idk maybe im crazy.
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      • k13
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 07-16-10
        • 18104

        #73
        If books wanted NE action they would have left the spread at -3.5.

        -7 is pointless to play now.

        Have like 5 ml parlays ending with NE, a little worried but not yet.
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        • LastSonKal-El
          SBR High Roller
          • 10-07-10
          • 148

          #74
          Originally posted by hawley
          had dolphins and under

          still maintain both were the right plays
          had the dolphins i got murderd that game after a solid days college football and nfl sunday
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          • thericker7
            SBR Sharp
            • 09-18-10
            • 340

            #75
            I don't like the points, because the Patriots are like the Chargers, without some of their weapons that they used to have and they could easily win by 2 touchdowns, or win by 6. And even though Miami was 1-7 at home, that was last year, it doesn't mean too much to me in the first game of the season. Just to stay interested in this game, I am sprinkling some money on Patriots money line, regardless of the price. It's a safe and profitable bet.

            So after all that, I am with Lakrboy
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            • boneheaded1
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 12-09-10
              • 815

              #76
              Come on guys. Don't be greedy. Just take the Patriots moneyline and get your free money.
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              • SRBI
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 10-20-09
                • 8393

                #77
                OK, Pats -7 it is...thanks
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                • cloudagh
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 04-08-07
                  • 486

                  #78
                  Lets go pats. Took this early and will ride it.
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                  • Ralphie1412
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 01-29-08
                    • 13963

                    #79
                    I love the forced bets that take place on sunday and monday nights in the nfl season. MLB too......the fact is the primetime game whether its Sunday night baseball or monday night football, usually its not a good play. Guys force themselves like they HAVE to bet it.
                    "This is why my basketball intelligence is unmatched on this site. I'm sure there are better cappers but no one can tell you the strategies of most coaches before the game even starts "
                    Goat Milk
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                    • Cris_from_Europe
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 09-25-09
                      • 343

                      #80
                      @k13 why worry ? place a bet on Miami ML just to be sure you have a winning day ... you get insane value with Miami ML .. don't even have to bet much to insure you 5 ML parlays ...
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                      • boneheaded1
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 12-09-10
                        • 815

                        #81
                        And to everyone who has doubts. Yes. Miami has a decent defense with two very good corners and can pressure the QB on a semi regular basis. But NE usually is in single back formations and is VERY comfortable running 6-8 yard completion type plays. So tell me, who is going to cover the other two guys looking to catch passes?

                        And tell me again? How are the Dolphins going to drive on the Patriots? Marshall is a beast? Sure, when the passes are catchable.

                        Reggie Bush could potentially use his speed to make some big plays but they just need to hold him up one time and let Fat Albert come over and squash him like a bug then that threat is gone.

                        Short of a complete breakdown on BOTH sides of the ball, I just don't see NE losing this one.

                        I'm all-in on the NE moneyline.
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                        • B1GER1C828
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 07-31-07
                          • 10244

                          #82
                          People forget why pats went 14-2 last year. Because of their TE tandem. Gronkowski and Aaron hernandez. Both absolutely uncoverable by anyone on dolphins. Ochocinco, branch, welker are 3 amazign route runners, so i don't care who you put on them from the fins, it won't matter. What people arent talking bout is patriots defense. Very young and just got rid of a few people who actually had some experience. Merriweather and gerard Warren come to mind. Pats defense is going for alot more pressure this year.

                          Dolphins will score, patriots will score alot more. patriots/over teaser is what ill do really small.
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                          • blackbeSSt
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 09-06-08
                            • 9398

                            #83
                            NE has covered 6 of the last 8 games played against miami. no reason to go against that.
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                            • DwightShrute
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 01-17-09
                              • 103431

                              #84
                              Miami wins this one

                              don't too over confident Pats backers. Look what happened to Atlanta, Pittsburgh and the NYG on the road yesterday
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                              • blackbeSSt
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 09-06-08
                                • 9398

                                #85
                                Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                Miami wins this one don't too over confident Pats backers. Look what happened to Atlanta, Pittsburgh and the NYG on the road yesterday
                                are you really comparing those 3 teams to NE?
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                                • dmiles1021
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 09-10-07
                                  • 1412

                                  #86
                                  haha i know right that means nothing that the giants lost yesterday...
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                                  • hubie69
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 09-16-10
                                    • 7329

                                    #87
                                    spread hit 8 on bodog, I think it goes up to 9 towards kick. I think you have to take Mia +9 at home on MNF
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                                    • DwightShrute
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 01-17-09
                                      • 103431

                                      #88
                                      Originally posted by blackbeSSt
                                      are you really comparing those 3 teams to NE?
                                      how many big games have New England won the last 3 years? Big games ... I mean playoff games? I will give you a hint ... less than 1.

                                      They might win tonight. They might lose. But you have them of some kind of pedestal because they won a super bowl 4 or 5 years ago.

                                      Good luck
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                                      • Jcm144
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 08-13-11
                                        • 227

                                        #89
                                        I'm leaning towards the pats -7, try to get back on track after an awful weekend. I just hate leaving so many points on the board on the road in a monday night game. But my book has the pats down for a huge -350 ml
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                                        • fergie's balls
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 02-07-11
                                          • 940

                                          #90
                                          Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                          Miami wins this one

                                          don't too over confident Pats backers. Look what happened to Atlanta, Pittsburgh and the NYG on the road yesterday
                                          forget the Giants, i am diehard fan and knew they were in trouble, it was easy to see. you are comparing Bears D to Dolphins D? and Baltimore offense to Miami offense?

                                          i agree the 7 is no play even though a NE lean, however the moneyline is an intelligent way to take advantage of a line intended to draw in non-moneyline action action. not saying it's gonna be an easy win either, personally won't check score until 2nd half!
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                                          • thorskin
                                            SBR Hustler
                                            • 08-08-11
                                            • 55

                                            #91
                                            Im thinking of teasing down to get NE at -2, and Over 40. I have faith that they will win by 2 or more, but not too sure about the over. Anyone have any input on the Over/Under tonight? Too Much pressure is going to be coming from Pat's D-Line and I can see Henne making a couple mistakes.
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                                            • blackbeSSt
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 09-06-08
                                              • 9398

                                              #92
                                              Originally posted by fergie's balls
                                              forget the Giants, i am diehard fan and knew they were in trouble, it was easy to see. you are comparing Bears D to Dolphins D? and Baltimore offense to Miami offense? i agree the 7 is no play even though a NE lean, however the moneyline is an intelligent way to take advantage of a line intended to draw in non-moneyline action action. not saying it's gonna be an easy win either, personally won't check score until 2nd half!
                                              exactly. the dolphins D is by no means a baltimore D. and matty ice/eli manning are in no way a tom brady.
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                                              • brahmabull117
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 11-08-10
                                                • 8622

                                                #93
                                                Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                                how many big games have New England won the last 3 years? Big games ... I mean playoff games? I will give you a hint ... less than 1. They might win tonight. They might lose. But you have them of some kind of pedestal because they won a super bowl 4 or 5 years ago. Good luck

                                                what an absolutely retarded reasoning



                                                this is not a "Big game". This is a relatively easy game against a horrible opponent with one of the worst offenses in the league. Say what you want to say about the pats choking in the playoffs, but that's irrelevant...they have been awesome against bad teams like this recently
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                                                • SaintsFan
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 08-12-11
                                                  • 355

                                                  #94
                                                  I second the post asking for screenshots of you Dolphins backers.

                                                  Lets see some.

                                                  I'm inadvertently huge on Pats teaser at -.5 because I successfully middled Jets/Cowboys last night.
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                                                  • brahmabull117
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 11-08-10
                                                    • 8622

                                                    #95
                                                    Originally posted by BarkingToad
                                                    I'm with lakerboy on this. Miami has a good defense and 2 good cornerbacks that should slow down passing game. While it was only a preseason game and means nothing, Detroit roughed up Brady a bit. I believe Miami has as good a defense as Detroit.
                                                    Maybe we'll see Bush in wildcat formation? If Miami can't get up for a Monday night prime time home opener against a hated rival, what good are they? If they don't ask much of Henne, while keeping the ball in Bush and Marshall's hands, Miami should keep this close.

                                                    Miami has a good defense?? The patriots averaged like 40 points per game last year playing against teams like the jets, bears, steelers and packers. All those teams are a mile better defensively than miami



                                                    and keep the ball in Bush's hands?? Bush is a godawful choice as a primary in between the tackle running back. If he gets 20-30 carries, you know the dolphins offense is getting dominated (which it will be)
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                                                    • thebestthereis
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 03-01-09
                                                      • 11459

                                                      #96
                                                      Must be no Pats ML (parlays) and teaser bets lingering from Sunday and no way no chance anyone teases the Pats tonight.
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                                                      • jrs362
                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                        • 09-11-11
                                                        • 288

                                                        #97
                                                        What are your thoughts on teasing this one? Not good value, but I'd be happy with Pats -1, O 40.

                                                        I'd be leaving A LOT on the table compared to playing -7, O/U 46, but I can't see how -1/Over 40 doesn't hit.


                                                        EDIT: I say this as I don't like the -7 and 46 seems just about right to me for the this game so I can't decide O/U on that.
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                                                        • downsouth
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 01-13-11
                                                          • 11580

                                                          #98
                                                          Originally posted by brahmabull117
                                                          what an absolutely retarded reasoning



                                                          this is not a "Big game". This is a relatively easy game against a horrible opponent with one of the worst offenses in the league. Say what you want to say about the pats choking in the playoffs, but that's irrelevant...they have been awesome against bad teams like this recently

                                                          Why are you still hanging around a message board trolling when you obviously have this figured out beyond reason. Play the superstar team at huge chalk. Bravo to you for stumbling across what is obviously a sure fire way to wealth beyond your wildest imagination.

                                                          Don't you have some late season -250 baseball chalk to lay somewhere.
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                                                          • brahmabull117
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 11-08-10
                                                            • 8622

                                                            #99
                                                            oh and chad henne's numbers against the pats last year in 2 games


                                                            34/56 371 yards 2 touchdowns 4 interceptions 62 quarterback rating



                                                            and that was henne last year with Ricky Williams and Ronnie Brown. They have nothing at the running back position so they're gonna force henne to throw the ball 50 times in this game against what's going to be a GREAT patriots defense this year
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                                                            • brahmabull117
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 11-08-10
                                                              • 8622

                                                              #100
                                                              Originally posted by downsouth
                                                              Why are you still hanging around a message board trolling when you obviously have this figured out beyond reason. Play the superstar team at huge chalk. Bravo to you for stumbling across what is obviously a sure fire way to wealth beyond your wildest imagination.

                                                              Don't you have some late season -250 baseball chalk to lay somewhere.

                                                              - 110 is a huge chalk play????
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                                                              • JMF2479
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 08-29-09
                                                                • 592

                                                                #101
                                                                Originally posted by brahmabull117
                                                                so are you ready to be wrong again like you were wrong in the stanford game and wrong in the jets game???
                                                                I think he has to be right sooner or later. I'm on Miami tonight lol. I was on Dallas +6.5 and Stanford
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                                                                • DwightShrute
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 01-17-09
                                                                  • 103431

                                                                  #102
                                                                  Originally posted by fergie's balls
                                                                  forget the Giants, i am diehard fan and knew they were in trouble, it was easy to see. you are comparing Bears D to Dolphins D? and Baltimore offense to Miami offense?
                                                                  not at this time. No.

                                                                  Miami has a solid D though and a potentially explosive offense. we will see.
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                                                                  • brahmabull117
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 11-08-10
                                                                    • 8622

                                                                    #103
                                                                    Originally posted by JMF2479
                                                                    I think he has to be right sooner or later. I'm on Miami tonight lol. I was on Dallas +6.5 and Stanford

                                                                    I just find it funny for him to debate me



                                                                    everytime he tries to argue against what I'm saying, he's wrong like 3 out of 4 times but he keeps talking trash. It's really quite funny
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                                                                    • SaintsFan
                                                                      Restricted User
                                                                      • 08-12-11
                                                                      • 355

                                                                      #104
                                                                      Originally posted by brahmabull117
                                                                      I just find it funny for him to debate me



                                                                      everytime he tries to argue against what I'm saying, he's wrong like 3 out of 4 times but he keeps talking trash. It's really quite funny
                                                                      Brahma, I will defend you to say that I think your strategy of gambling will net about as much money as Lakerboy's strategy and that it's unfair for him to be so popular while most everybody on here dislikes you.

                                                                      His picks are sexier than yours - that's the bottom line. But you win a disproportionate amount of your posted plays (you hit at over 75% from what I've seen) and he hits a disproportionate amount of his crazy ass underdog plays (about 35% of them from what I've seen) so I think basically the two of you come out around the same.

                                                                      I play favorites more often than the self-proclaimed "sharps" here would play, but I also play more underdogs than you would play. I think all methods can work as long as you know which games to shy away from.
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                                                                      • DwightShrute
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 01-17-09
                                                                        • 103431

                                                                        #105
                                                                        Originally posted by ugabooga
                                                                        New England has won seven straight games on opening weekend, the NFL's second-longest active streak behind Pittsburgh's eight. The Dolphins, meanwhile, have lost their past five home openers

                                                                        All in, Pats ML.


                                                                        *trollface*
                                                                        Steelers won 6 season openers in a row heading into yesterdays game. Just sayin'
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