Can FANTASY SPORTS win/losses be considered gambling WINS/LOSSES for TAX PURPOSES?

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  • Fishhead
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 08-11-05
    • 40179

    #1
    Can FANTASY SPORTS win/losses be considered gambling WINS/LOSSES for TAX PURPOSES?
    ???????????????


    If not mistaken, don't believe they can.


  • Justin7
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 07-31-06
    • 8577

    #2
    Why not?
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    • Fishhead
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 08-11-05
      • 40179

      #3
      Originally posted by Justin7
      Why not?

      I don't know...........can they?
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      • pavyracer
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 04-12-07
        • 82839

        #4
        Can buying lottery tickets that don't win considered a gambling loss? Because when the odds of winning are 1 to 150 million it's gambling buying a ticket.
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        • Fishhead
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 08-11-05
          • 40179

          #5
          Originally posted by pavyracer
          Can buying lottery tickets that don't win considered a gambling loss? Because when the odds of winning are 1 to 150 million it's gambling buying a ticket.

          Stay on topic please.

          Yes, of course lottery tickets can be written off as losses on Schedule A.............what about FANTASY SPORTS losses?
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          • FreeFall
            SBR MVP
            • 02-20-08
            • 3365

            #6
            Yes fishhead.
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            • Fishhead
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 08-11-05
              • 40179

              #7
              Originally posted by FreeFall
              Yes fishhead.



              Can we get a quadruple confirmation from others on this...................thanks.
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              • No coincidences
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 01-18-10
                • 76300

                #8
                I'm pretty sure that if you win over $800 in fantasy sports, you have to claim it as income.
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                • Fishhead
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 08-11-05
                  • 40179

                  #9
                  Originally posted by No coincidences
                  I'm pretty sure that if you win over $800 in fantasy sports, you have to claim it as income.

                  Wrong answer..................technically, if you were to win $1 and lose nothing........you are liable for $1 in winnings(although nobody would report this) to the IRS.
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                  • Marigold HD
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 09-03-07
                    • 5053

                    #10
                    I would never report this ever. Lol.
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                    • Fishhead
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 08-11-05
                      • 40179

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Marigold HD
                      I would never report this ever. Lol.

                      You do realize some individuals are NETTING over 100,000 per year on FANTASY SPORTS........................have fun not reporting that.
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                      • BIGDAY
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 02-17-10
                        • 48245

                        #12
                        Another thought,
                        What if you are collecting/treasurer of your league?? Are you considered an illegal bookie, taking sports wagering funds? Probably could be considered I guess...
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                        • ttwarrior1
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 06-23-09
                          • 28460

                          #13
                          no on the fantasy football thing
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                          • brooks85
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 01-05-09
                            • 44709

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Fishhead
                            You do realize some individuals are NETTING over 100,000 per year on FANTASY SPORTS........................have fun not reporting that.

                            ya? who are they and where do i sign up?
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                            • Mr KLC
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 12-19-07
                              • 31097

                              #15
                              I used to play Fantasy baseball frequently with CBS Sportsline. They would send me a 1098 form every year for my winnings, so I would be forced to claim it on my taxes.
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                              • ttwarrior1
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 06-23-09
                                • 28460

                                #16
                                done the same thing with cbs and never got a form ever
                                Plus i think he means leagues where you use cash money. Like you can't claim this sbr league, etc or fan duel
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                                • HotStreak
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 05-12-09
                                  • 3235

                                  #17
                                  Fantasy Sports is not considered gambling. It is a game of skill. This allows all these sites to host cash leagues legally in the U.S.
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                                  • Fishhead
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 08-11-05
                                    • 40179

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by HotStreak
                                    Fantasy Sports is not considered gambling. It is a game of skill. This allows all these sites to host cash leagues legally in the U.S.

                                    Correct

                                    Having said that, if I lose $12,000 in fantasy sports, can one deduct that on Schedule A(along with my regular gambling losses) to offset reported winnings on Line 21.......................simple question.


                                    Justin7, you must know the correct answer to this question.............
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                                    • HotStreak
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 05-12-09
                                      • 3235

                                      #19
                                      Fantasy Sports is not considered gambling; therefore, you would not be able to write it's cost as gambling losses.

                                      Unless you made a profit at it for a few years straight, Fantasy Football would be considered a hobby here is a cut and paste

                                      IRS tax form 1099-B and your hobby or barter income

                                      IRS tax form 1099-B records barter income. It is often difficult to distinguish the difference between barter or hobby income and self-employment income.

                                      For tax purposes, barter income, which is either the exchange of property and services for other property or services or reimbursement for referrals, can be included as other taxable income or as self-employment income. Either way, it is fully taxable.

                                      Income produced by a hobby is considered other taxable income unless it has consistently been profitable over the past few years. After three years of yielding an income, your hobby is considered a business and you are required to report it as self-employment income.

                                      Otherwise, include the gross profit your hobby earned under the "miscellaneous taxable income" category. Remember, you may deduct the losses or expenses of your hobby as a miscellaneous itemized tax deduction as long as you report hobby income and pay the required taxes. Hobby losses can be claimed as a deduction up to the amount you are claiming as taxable income.
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                                      • Waz
                                        SBR Sharp
                                        • 12-25-08
                                        • 262

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Fishhead
                                        Correct

                                        Having said that, if I lose $12,000 in fantasy sports, can one deduct that on Schedule A(along with my regular gambling losses) to offset reported winnings on Line 21.......................simple question.


                                        Justin7, you must know the correct answer to this question.............

                                        Fish,

                                        I'm a CPA and can tell you that you can 100% deduct your fantasy losses against your gambling winnings. Talk to me offline and I can give you a few additional tips on how to maximize your tax situation.
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                                        • Ninersnut
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 05-20-10
                                          • 3730

                                          #21
                                          I thought they got around the whole "gambling" thing by saying It's a game of skill not chance.
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                                          • ttwarrior1
                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                            • 06-23-09
                                            • 28460

                                            #22
                                            no you cannot deduct your fantasy losses, you cannot. If you are losing in fantasy you need to quit. Wtf are you playing
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                                            • Fishhead
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 08-11-05
                                              • 40179

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Waz
                                              Fish,

                                              I'm a CPA and can tell you that you can 100% deduct your fantasy losses against your gambling winnings. Talk to me offline and I can give you a few additional tips on how to maximize your tax situation.

                                              Thanks
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