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  • brahmabull117
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 11-08-10
    • 8622

    #36
    Originally posted by Glitch
    probably tigers and/or rangers.


    brah,
    you should listen to this rich boy character- he and the other guys telling you this stuff are not wrong. but he worded in a non-asshole way. that way you an be in it for the long haul. not to take anything away from the run youre on now.

    money management is the single most important aspect of sports betting. even more than the research. which is the second most important.
    Those 2 guys can choke on this rooster


    I have been dominating for 7 weeks now with the nba playoffs included


    They can keep hating and ill keep doubling my bankroll. Oh and I'm not stupid, I know about money management.
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    • ngates815
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 12-01-09
      • 13845

      #37
      The Rock....


      Toss your Fellow Wrastling pal a Winner, and how much you got riding on it?

      I've been doing shitty betting +140 - -130 bets, I need to find a winner outside those numbers.

      THANKS.
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      • Kindred
        SBR MVP
        • 09-09-08
        • 2901

        #38
        obviously you figured out the secret to making a living betting sports, bet on heavy chalk!
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        • ngates815
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 12-01-09
          • 13845

          #39
          Lets get a winner, then lets celebrate like above !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


          How much riding on it and which team is the bet.

          Thanks Rock...
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          • Glitch
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 07-08-09
            • 11795

            #40
            ya good sh*t brah

            how long you gonna keep gates danglin man- he wants the play
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            • DrStale
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 12-07-08
              • 9692

              #41
              Originally posted by brahmabull117
              They can keep hating and ill keep doubling my bankroll. Oh and I'm not stupid, I know about money management.
              Unintentional comedy at its best.
              Originally posted by Dark Horse
              If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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              • ebbearsfb1
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 12-07-08
                • 18815

                #42
                Lol knows money management.. but has 25 or more % in action at one time... his research yesterday was espn preview
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                • brahmabull117
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 11-08-10
                  • 8622

                  #43
                  Originally posted by ngates815


                  Lets get a winner, then lets celebrate like above !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


                  How much riding on it and which team is the bet.

                  Thanks Rock...
                  Check ur pm and don't disclose my picks


                  These azzholes don't deserve to hear my genius
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                  • JohnnyD4916
                    SBR MVP
                    • 04-14-10
                    • 1572

                    #44
                    What's the winner tonight?
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                    • 70kgman
                      SBR MVP
                      • 01-31-10
                      • 4354

                      #45
                      Originally posted by Kindred
                      obviously you figured out the secret to making a living betting sports, bet on heavy chalk!
                      Not only betting heavy chalk, but playing them at bookmaker who have the most juiced MLB ML's of all the books out there.
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                      • DrStale
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 12-07-08
                        • 9692

                        #46
                        Originally posted by brahmabull117

                        Check ur pm and don't disclose my picks


                        These azzholes don't deserve to hear my genius
                        What a clown.

                        Goes all-in, yet claims to have bankroll management
                        Thinks 2 weeks of plays is a worthwhile indicator
                        Believes that posting plays gives him bad luck
                        Completely ignores sound advice given to him by those who've been around the block
                        Plays 20 cent baseball lines
                        And is cocky to boot
                        Originally posted by Dark Horse
                        If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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                        • JohnnyD4916
                          SBR MVP
                          • 04-14-10
                          • 1572

                          #47
                          Whats the play, I need an all-in play tonight.
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                          • brahmabull117
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 11-08-10
                            • 8622

                            #48
                            Originally posted by DrStale
                            What a clown.

                            Goes all-in, yet claims to have bankroll management
                            Thinks 2 weeks of plays is a worthwhile indicator
                            Believes that posting plays gives him bad luck
                            Completely ignores sound advice given to him by those who've been around the block
                            Plays 20 cent baseball lines
                            And is cocky to boot

                            Just stfu and watch my daily bankroll thread phaggot


                            It will be $$10,000+ in no time
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                            • ngates815
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 12-01-09
                              • 13845

                              #49
                              I think you sent the PM to the wrong person.

                              I'm 2-8 since Wednesday...I need a winner tonight.

                              Thanks Rock, maybe we can go grab stone cold and slam some brewskis with him if the bet wins.

                              Thanks look forward to following your picks...If you can keep this run up for a couple more days, I may sign up if you decide to go tout.


                              BOL, and send me that pick.
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                              • Sawyer
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 06-01-09
                                • 7761

                                #50
                                Originally posted by brahmabull117
                                -Another perfect example was the brewers last weekend against pittsburg, the line was about -240, which sounds like a lot until you do some research and realize the brewers have beaten the Pirates 35 out of 38 games in Milwaukee.... that line should have been - 3,000!!!!


                                I wish I was your bookie

                                PS: Brewers may be 35-3 in last 38 games but it doesn't mean they will go 35-3 in next 38 games..

                                PS 2: You like favourites and probably you're making money by betting favourites because we're on July&August period. When September comes in, you will hate these big priced favs. Laying heavy chalk is quick recipe to poorhouse.
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                                • pavyracer
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 04-12-07
                                  • 82839

                                  #51
                                  You shouldn't be looking at lines before betting. Try this at home. Look at the matchups. Then cap the game. Then pick the winner. When you go to your book to bet it look at the line. Some days you will pick a fav and some days you will pick a dog. If you are strictly betting favs or strictly betting dogs you are going to lose at the end. The line doesn't play the game. The players, coaches and umpires determine the outcome of the game..not the fav or dog line.
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                                  • SargeantHooker
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 03-08-10
                                    • 572

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by pavyracer
                                    You shouldn't be looking at lines before betting. Try this at home. Look at the matchups. Then cap the game. Then pick the winner. When you go to your book to bet it look at the line. Some days you will pick a fav and some days you will pick a dog. If you are strictly betting favs or strictly betting dogs you are going to lose at the end. The line doesn't play the game. The players, coaches and umpires determine the outcome of the game..not the fav or dog line.
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                                    • Avenger
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 03-15-11
                                      • 2119

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by Rich Boy
                                      Books are more likely to juice the favorite side than the dog side, which makes it more difficult to find edges. They still exist, but you will have a better chance finding edges if you take dogs. Notice how many of the sharp posters on the forum only take dogs or mild favorites? Its not by coincidence.
                                      This.

                                      There's no value in big faves. But there is money to be made.
                                      That's why I couldn't stand the dimwit who used to rail about "value" plays in everyone's thread. It's about picking and choosing your spots on big faves. I play faves A LOT, ask my bookie, but I consistently make a profit. You can't play faves every day and you can't parlay them (I learned this the hard way).

                                      Anyways, Brewers were the gold mine v. Pirates. Wish I had seen this earlier but I was expecting Brewers to regress. Next time!
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                                      • CHAZ
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 12-09-09
                                        • 4978

                                        #54
                                        If its that easy start a thread and just post the big favorites you like. You'll be buried in no time risking so much to get so little in return.



                                        And when will people learn that the bookies make there money either way. They juice both sides. If you do the math and calculate the odds to percentages its over 100%. Hints why they moves line to try and even sides out
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                                        • jjgold
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 07-20-05
                                          • 388179

                                          #55
                                          Kid is a huge square
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                                          • Sawyer
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 06-01-09
                                            • 7761

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by pavyracer
                                            Some days you will pick a fav and some days you will pick a dog. If you are strictly betting favs or strictly betting dogs you are going to lose at the end. The line doesn't play the game. The players, coaches and umpires determine the outcome of the game..
                                            The line doesn't play the game but why you think you're going to lose at the end by strictly betting dogs? You can make money over long haul by strictly betting dogs.
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                                            • LovetoSpooge
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 11-20-10
                                              • 426

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by brahmabull117
                                              I don't know what you would consider me, I have turned $300 into $4,000 in a matter of about 16 days... and I bet on a ton of favorites

                                              [ ] Sustainable
                                              [x] Fat kid who got lucky.
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                                              • million2one
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 03-19-09
                                                • 1290

                                                #58
                                                I never understood bettors proclaiming that the will not lay over -140 or -150, claiming it is too risky and unprofitable.
                                                These people have no real rationale to support such a claim and their thinking stems from a limited knowledge of the mathematical precepts that determine measured value.

                                                Or in other words I'd be willing to lay -200 on a proposition that my work tells me has a 3 to 1 chance of winning, much more so than laying -120 when my work predicts odds of 7 to 5.

                                                You still have to do your own capping and come up with your own odds as compared to the actual line, and it is not as simple as looking at who's pitching and who's hot, you have to look at everything, come up with what you think are the true odds and compare that with the actual line.

                                                Good topic BTW
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                                                • Microphone
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 01-08-08
                                                  • 2950

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by Waz
                                                  This is probably one of the better times of the season to bet favorites as some of these teams have flat out given up already. In addition, some of these squads are playing several minor league players that are just getting a test run.

                                                  But it works both ways. Especially teams like Philly, NY and Boston who are "already in" will be resting people. Betting big favorites in spots is fine. It's great if you love two big favs in a night and can parlay them. Takes the sting out.
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                                                  • a4u2fear
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 01-29-10
                                                    • 8147

                                                    #60
                                                    Those lines will work out sometimes, if you bet every one and the % rate is correct yea, but I hardly believe someone takes them every time, so their % rate is lower than the actual outcomes of the games.
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                                                    • TheLocal
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 08-11-11
                                                      • 368

                                                      #61
                                                      If you played only -200 favs you need to hit nearly 67% to break even. Fuge that.
                                                      GL
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                                                      • lunchbawks
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 01-31-10
                                                        • 12873

                                                        #62
                                                        Dogs pay more.. so do totals if u have a clue
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                                                        • ManBearPig
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 12-04-08
                                                          • 2473

                                                          #63
                                                          Here's what you can expect blind betting favorites by month. Notice the transition between July and August. No filters included just raw data and a rather large one...2k+ games.

                                                          Just some food for thought.

                                                          # games W-L (marg, % win) $ On $ Against MONTH


                                                          2738 1494-1244 (0.51, 54.6%) -25550 10975 4
                                                          2741 1569-1172 (0.57, 57.2%) -22508 5978 9
                                                          3069 1740-1329 (0.60, 56.7%) -15264 -503 6
                                                          2855 1670-1185 (0.75, 58.5%) -10030 -5565 8
                                                          387 214-173 (0.34, 55.3%) -3876 1833 10
                                                          22 14-8 (1.41, 63.6%) -45 -105 3
                                                          4 3-1 (1.75, 75.0%) 130 -140 11
                                                          3247 1902-1345 (0.67, 58.6%) 784 -16307 5
                                                          2643 1571-1072 (0.87, 59.4%) 2470 -15760 7
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                                                          • BettingWizard
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 11-28-09
                                                            • 6522

                                                            #64
                                                            brah, this is like somebody saying if you had followed a certain powerball pattern the last 6 months, you would be up however much money. You can never guess when a streak will end all the time
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                                                            • jarvol
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 09-13-10
                                                              • 6074

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by ManBearPig
                                                              Here's what you can expect blind betting favorites by month. Notice the transition between July and August. No filters included just raw data and a rather large one...2k+ games.

                                                              Just some food for thought.

                                                              # games W-L (marg, % win) $ On $ Against MONTH


                                                              2738 1494-1244 (0.51, 54.6%) -25550 10975 4
                                                              2741 1569-1172 (0.57, 57.2%) -22508 5978 9
                                                              3069 1740-1329 (0.60, 56.7%) -15264 -503 6
                                                              2855 1670-1185 (0.75, 58.5%) -10030 -5565 8
                                                              387 214-173 (0.34, 55.3%) -3876 1833 10
                                                              22 14-8 (1.41, 63.6%) -45 -105 3
                                                              4 3-1 (1.75, 75.0%) 130 -140 11
                                                              3247 1902-1345 (0.67, 58.6%) 784 -16307 5
                                                              2643 1571-1072 (0.87, 59.4%) 2470 -15760 7
                                                              Yeah but Brahma has the gift to only pick the faves that win so your stats are irrelevant.....
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                                                              • BernardMadoff
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 12-12-09
                                                                • 6679

                                                                #66
                                                                .....
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                                                                • illfuuptn
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 03-17-10
                                                                  • 1860

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Brah, do you realize how awesome you'd be if you actually realized how huge of a luckbox you are and learned how to handicap for real? You'd have a $4,000 starting point which is awesome for someone who sucks at handicapping. Then you could actually learn how to do this and then continue to make money.

                                                                  p.s. this is AWESOME! It's so hilarious that we are going to get to watch you lose $4,000 and when that happens I'll quote the shit out of this post just to ruin your life.
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                                                                  • brahmabull117
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 11-08-10
                                                                    • 8622

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by million2one
                                                                    I never understood bettors proclaiming that the will not lay over -140 or -150, claiming it is too risky and unprofitable. These people have no real rationale to support such a claim and their thinking stems from a limited knowledge of the mathematical precepts that determine measured value. Or in other words I'd be willing to lay -200 on a proposition that my work tells me has a 3 to 1 chance of winning, much more so than laying -120 when my work predicts odds of 7 to 5. You still have to do your own capping and come up with your own odds as compared to the actual line, and it is not as simple as looking at who's pitching and who's hot, you have to look at everything, come up with what you think are the true odds and compare that with the actual line. Good topic BTW


                                                                    holy fcking sht!!!





                                                                    somebody else on this site who has a clue??







                                                                    I can't believe my eyes!!!
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                                                                    • hawley
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 05-10-10
                                                                      • 14270

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by brahmabull117



                                                                      holy fcking sht!!!




                                                                      somebody else on this site who has a clue??



                                                                      I can't believe my eyes!!!


                                                                      You read the part where he said you still need to do your own capping?

                                                                      Well reading the ESPN preview is not capping a game
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                                                                      • brahmabull117
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 11-08-10
                                                                        • 8622

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by hawley
                                                                        You read the part where he said you still need to do your own capping? Well reading the ESPN preview is not capping a game

                                                                        I have forgotten more about baseball in the last year than you will ever know in your lifetime phaggot
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