(CreditWagering will stiff everyone here.)

[Cloak & Dagger]

Nicky put a sock in it bud, players enjoy getting paid on debit card.

and another CW tout....

how many touts do they have on these forums?

and do they pay you like 10cents a post or something??

[Cloak & Dagger]

bet

made no sense??? are you crazy??? i'll tell you what, give me -136 instead of 163 on 1,000 games and if i dont end up ahead, i will give you whatever you want. i will lay any odds with you that i will not only win, but i will clean up..

nicky....I like your style bro....you dont want to see anyone get scammed

you have been in the game for a min and these young punks have no respect

they are living off of their parents and betting $5 parlays....trying to discredit what you feel....as a veteran in this game

I got the same feeling about this scam book after their shills were threatening people...then it was confirmed when they posted their members DL on their website

they have paid touts on these forums....and all you have to do is say one thing about CW and they come out

sad thing is they arent getting paid shit...but like 15cents a post...and they are using their post count to lure in newbies

people see someone with 1000's of posts they automatically assume what they say is solid

I bet half of these people dont even know what a 'tout' is

anyhow....great thread.....and I cant wait to bump this to expose touts like AAO and crazytout when these clowns take everyones cash and run away like a thief in the night

then those same touts will be ran off this site....cause everyone will know that they were nothing short of a scammer themselves

[Cloak & Dagger]

betty, not necessarily, these scam books will collect from the losers, stroke the winners a few days till they get paid, and then run..


betty, alot of kids on this site who play at CW don't understand gambling.. but i want some of the big boys to come in here and comment on this and you'll see they agree with me. how can you make money booking bets at 15-20 cents off the price and expect to make money.

help me make these kids understand bigger boys here at SBR.. do you agree with me that books cannot make money while putting up opinionated lines that are off by 15-20 cents.


how come SBR John won't give his thumbs up to this place. has anyone asked SBR John on his opinion.. SBR John or Billy Dozer, am i right, or what?

tell these kids, they don't understand.. they will learn the hard way.

im not being mean here, i'm just trying to help them by not losing their hard earned money.

Only supporters of CW are broke bums that have no money to post up.

[bettilimbroke999]

bet

made no sense??? are you crazy??? i'll tell you what, give me -136 instead of 163 on 1,000 games and if i dont end up ahead, i will give you whatever you want. i will lay any odds with you that i will not only win, but i will clean up..

Nicky the lines are not off by that much c'mon, I think one bet the Boston series was off by that much and of course Boston did end up winning the series so all of us that put a 125 on Lakers lost anyway.

[Cloak & Dagger]

Nicky the lines are not off by that much c'mon, I think one bet the Boston series was off by that much and of course Boston did end up winning the series so all of us that put a 125 on Lakers lost anyway.

you said you already sent them a dime?

ya....you are the ideal CW customer

[Nicky Santoro]

cloaker, you're really into this CW thing.. you're the only one that has any sense.. I am not saying this book will go down, i hope not for their sakes.. but why are these kids like aao playing into this unknown book when they can be playing into a top notch A+ book.. like cris, oly, wsex, matchbook. their money is safe there, unlike this place. i had never even heard of this book till i joined here 2 months ago, and i've been playing offshore now since it opened up its 1st book over 20 yrs ago..


bet,

i checked lines there this afternoon and saw 3 games off by 25 cents and more. they were the big name teams like the CUBS and NYY and i forget the other one. it's alright to do this, nothing wrong with it, since they are probably having squares like aao laying -190, when they can get it at -160 at matchbook. but if they get a bunch of guys playing into the other side for the max bet, this book better kick them out, which they will, or else they will go bust.

[Cloak & Dagger]

cloaker, you're really into this CW thing.. you're the only one that has any sense.. I am not saying this book will go down, i hope not for their sakes.. but why are these kids like aao playing into this unknown book when they can be playing into a top notch A+ book.. like cris, oly, wsex, matchbook. their money is safe there, unlike this place. i had never even heard of this book till i joined here 2 months ago, and i've been playing offshore now since it opened up its 1st book over 20 yrs ago..


bet,

i checked lines there this afternoon and saw 3 games off by 25 cents and more. they were the big name teams like the CUBS and NYY and i forget the other one. it's alright to do this, nothing wrong with it, since they are probably having squares like aao laying -190, when they can get it at -160 at matchbook. but if they get a bunch of guys playing into the other side for the max bet, this book better kick them out, which they will, or else they will go bust.

Ive been doing offshore for about 11 years now....my first book was sportsinteraction

I just dont want to see anyone scammed....these touts come on here and call this place the best thing since sliced bread

my take on it is....why would they need to threaten people over a $13.50 debt?...if they had backing coming in

they threatened me and others....I closed my acct cause I honestly believe they had no backing coming in....only some bush league outfit would do that...threaten people over some chump change...another lazerwager IMO

[Nicky Santoro]

if they really did threaten over 13.50, then this place should be shut down. how unprofessional is this.. this place gives offshore books a bad name. what a bush league book this sounds like.

this place sounds like a joke.. sounds like they are booking from a basement in a bar underground or something. who the f-ck threatens anyone.. somebody should shut this place down, it sounds like a joke to me, if what you are saying is true.

the kids like aao love this place because they think they are one of the lucky ones who doesn't have to put up cash up front, but this is the worst thing you can end up doing if you want to get into trouble. bettors will go over their head and chase because they dont have to come up with the money up front, but when they lose, it will hit them like a ton of bricks when settlement day arrives and they owe 3x more than what they are worth.. but if you had to post the money up front, no way they'd get over their heads and owe this much.

these kids in this thread have a lot of learning to do. no wonder they love CW.. they love the not having to put up cash up front.

[gordon gekko]

Nicky make us a late night video.

[Nicky Santoro]

Nicky make us a late night video.

lol

[gordon gekko]

I am upset about the lakers tonight nicky I need one of your videos to cheer me up.

[Nicky Santoro]

geico, sorry about the lakers man.. don't worry man, I feel a big streak upcoming for you.

[bettilimbroke999]

if they really did threaten over 13.50, then this place should be shut down. how unprofessional is this.. this place gives offshore books a bad name. what a bush league book this sounds like.

this place sounds like a joke.. sounds like they are booking from a basement in a bar underground or something. who the f-ck threatens anyone.. somebody should shut this place down, it sounds like a joke to me, if what you are saying is true.

the kids like aao love this place because they think they are one of the lucky ones who doesn't have to put up cash up front, but this is the worst thing you can end up doing if you want to get into trouble. bettors will go over their head and chase because they dont have to come up with the money up front, but when they lose, it will hit them like a ton of bricks when settlement day arrives and they owe 3x more than what they are worth.. but if you had to post the money up front, no way they'd get over their heads and owe this much.

these kids in this thread have a lot of learning to do. no wonder they love CW.. they love the not having to put up cash up front.

I find it hard to believe they threatened some1 over $13.50, I have talked to CW cs several times and they seem very professional, if a stiff is a complete jackass bragging to them about super stiffing them perhaps they understandably got pissed off (how would you react if you called your book for a withdrawal and they said they weren't going to pay you and started making jokes like "thanks for the free money").

[Cloak & Dagger]

I find it hard to believe they threatened some1 over $13.50, I have talked to CW cs several times and they seem very professional, if a stiff is a complete jackass bragging to them about super stiffing them perhaps they understandably got pissed off (how would you react if you called your book for a withdrawal and they said they weren't going to pay you and started making jokes like "thanks for the free money").

I guess you dont remember "pimike" and his attitude before picantel exposed him and CW told him to shut his trap

why dont you search some of his old posts....and see what you find

[Nicky Santoro]

don't say i didn't warn you.. get out now before you regret it.

[Panic]

don't say i didn't warn you.. get out now before you regret it.

How do you expect them to get out? If they're already registered there, what can they do? They got personal info now.

[bettilimbroke999]

Hell I'm down at CW right now, maybe the IRS will give me a deduction

[Patrick McIrish]

Nicky Santauro is a LEGEND in these posting forums, been around from the beginning. I'd suggest you listen when he speaks on topics such as these.

[Nicky Santoro]

Nicky Santauro is a LEGEND in these posting forums, been around from the beginning. I'd suggest you listen when he speaks on topics such as these.

patty, you're the legend, not me. i remember you way back in the early years. till today, no one has yet been able to beat your record for longest posts. i remember one post had 13,498 words in it, i counted it. till today, that record still holds. they were like novels, and i couldn't handle more than 10% of them because of my small attention span. paddy, you're in the wrong business, you should have been a writer and write novels. you could have written many books and made millions, instead of sweating out games in the bottom of the 9th and see your closer blow saves.

[Patrick McIrish]

Still waiting for a breakfast with Barry Bonds type of story, now that was some writing. As for this topic posted my opinion back in April I think it was, just learned to keep my mouth shut on these things, nothing to gain.

[pavyracer]

and remember where you heard it.. i've seen this type of behavior a lot in my lifetime offshore and each one of these books eventually ran with the players money, and it will happen here.

I dont care if they only take 100$ bets or 100000$ bets.. this book is a scam and is run by a bunch of amateurs/shot takers..

get ready to lose your money in that book when they stiff. how can anyone in their right minds play with such an amateur book like this.. their lines are so off, that it's obvious they are just gambling and taking shots..


the other day, they had NYY -136.. when the general line was NYY -163.. what a freakin joke. good luck playing with this book.. i dont think i have ever seen a line this off in my life.. this line is bordering around a bad line, meaning, most books would void this bet if you bet it at -136 and it won.

this happens frequently over there.

and good luck when they stiff you, AND THEY WILL EVENTUALLY... and remember where you heard this..


this book is laughing at you all and just taking shots. I dont care if they've paid you each time so far, but their time will come when they will stiff you, mark my words.

Nicky nailed it while back.

[Nicky Santoro]

paver, i don't like this pulling up old threads thing.. paver, i agree i was wrong.. fine, so i have no clue what i'm talking about..

paver, dont be a wiseass..

[Nicky Santoro]

but i will say this in my defence. even SBR johnny agreed with me at taht time and said no way they can continue running a business and they won't last either.. so johnny was on my side. and to my defence again, i had no idea they had extremely small limits. if they had 2 or 3 guys betting large dimes into them with their wacky prices they had, they'd be gone for sure.. no doubt about it

[charitableman]

i still havent been paid on a november 2nd withdrawal request. they keep promising me every other day they will pay and yet nothing. They said they got so tired of me emailing them for updates that every email i send to them will be another week i have to get paid. So i guess i play the wait game now

http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-talk/275693-creditwagering-com-book-long-you-dont-withdraw.html

[j-e-t-s jets]

Ben is a stiff. Creditwagering is Done!!!!!!!!!! Once and for all. Numerous complaints on this forum and all others. If you were dumb enough to deposit with these frauds I feel bad for you.

[SBR_John]

The sad thing about CW is everyone knew they would fail. That's an example of how hard it is at SBR. You can tell a guy not to play at XYZ book because they will stiff you and a month later he is writing asking if we can help get him paid.

Look at long running scams like Oddsmaker. This industry is a scammsters paradise. You tell a guy dont play there its a scam and he goes and plays there. Thats a disappointing part of SBR's success. We just cant put the many scammers out of business.

[pavyracer]

LT Profits, Iwinyourmoney, pimike and Crazy Lou would go to war for CW. These guys made thousands playing over there and never had to wait a single day for a payout.

[poker_dummy101]

LT Profits, Iwinyourmoney, pimike and Crazy Lou would go to war for CW. These guys made thousands playing over there and never had to wait a single day for a payout.

where is their response?

[JBC77]

When they finally go under and it looks like that day is drawing near....wonder what they are going to do with the reams of personal data they have gathered on their players. Probably will be sold many times over. Stolen by thieves, copies of drivers licenses blowing down the street as they were thrown in the trash. Maybe some attempts at stealing identities and all sorts of fun stuff.

You have to be nuts sending these guys personal documents to get credit. Think people, think.

[Nicky Santoro]

Nicky nailed it while back.

oh paver, i thought you were being sarcastic and taking a shot at me.. so i guess i was right then.. they are going down?????..


i knew i'd be right.. this CW had scam written all over it..

[TomDwan]

Never wager on credit.

[pavyracer]

oh paver, i thought you were being sarcastic and taking a shot at me.. so i guess i was right then.. they are going down?????..


i knew i'd be right.. this CW had scam written all over it..

You are a prophet.

[Slim]

CreditWagering still running strong. Unreal.

[frostno98]

CreditWagering still running strong. Unreal.

Yeah, and so is former A+ book betcascade downgraded to F. That stiff player for millions of dollar. Just because they still exist, doesn't means they're capable of paying people winning off of their monopoly money.

[lakerboy]

As far as their lines being off sometimes, there's a reason for that. If Pinnacle had $100 limits, they'd have freedom to angle action on sides they want it on. Nobody is going to get burned booking $100 bets.

For instance they hung Celtics +120 knowing hardly anyone would bet it, and gave a great price on Lakers knowing everyone would bet it. They made out great there, and it's just one example of them making the right decision and inducing action on the side they want it on. When they are wrong, their limits aren't bankrupting them believe me.