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  • MendozaLine
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    • 01-11-10
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    #36
    Watching Phil Taylor throw darts is a thing of beauty. He is a true English hero. I was fortunate enough to watch him on the telly while in London 2 years ago. 2 things that are true in England. Darts, and John Smiths.



    Originally posted by Ace_of_Spades
    You think fat dart players are athletic

    OMG, you loser.
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    • cheeese
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 02-22-11
      • 784

      #37
      You do lose some credibility if your gym is a bar.
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      • Naz18
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        • 09-10-09
        • 4277

        #38
        Hero or not the following do not demand athleticism:

        Darts, Pool/Snooker, Golf, Baseball pitcher, Race Car driver, Bowling, Fishing, and much more...
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        • TheCentaur
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 06-28-11
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          #39
          Originally posted by MendozaLine


          You said England doesn't have any athletes. I just gave you a list of athletes that were born in England.


          I guess Mesut Ozil doesn't count as a German
          Alex Rodriguez doesn't count as an American
          Zinedine Zidane doesn't count as a Frenchman

          Here is another question for you to ponder. How many American and Canadian athletes have english blood in them?
          Did your read the original post?
          Ozil-no
          Rodriguez-yes
          Zidane-no
          America does not have a specific ethnicity it identifies as American, the others do.
          Inverse correlation. The better the athlete the less the English blood
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          • TheCentaur
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            • 06-28-11
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            #40
            Originally posted by Naz18
            Hero or not the following do not demand athleticism:

            Darts, Pool/Snooker, Golf, Baseball pitcher, Race Car driver, Bowling, Fishing, and much more...
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            • cheeese
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 02-22-11
              • 784

              #41
              Even race car driver. It's not like you can be some bum and have the reflexes it takes to drive those tracks. I know it sounds lol but it takes strength to handle the wheel for that long. My leg falls asleep if I drive more than 30 miles.
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              • Naz18
                SBR MVP
                • 09-10-09
                • 4277

                #42
                Originally posted by TheCentaur
                John Daly, David Wells.....enough said?

                As for race car driver....not saying it's not easy, but doesn't take athletic ability to complete.

                Don't confuse skill with athletics.
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                • SportsPedagogy
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                  • 02-13-11
                  • 3691

                  #43
                  This thread is dumb. Athletic performance is based on the individual, not by race or geographical location. Ricky Hatton and Joe Calzehge were great British Boxers. lennox Lewis was a great British boxer. A persons cultural can influence what sport interest them, but it's up to the individual to have the determination and discipline to become great. The UFC is flooded with Anericans because wrestling is very popular in high schools and the coligate level, that transfers over well into the UFC. just like Brazilians and jujitsu.
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                  • tony_come
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                    • 03-31-10
                    • 21695

                    #44
                    We're all Chinese

                    Made in china
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                    • k13
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                      • 07-16-10
                      • 18104

                      #45
                      Originally posted by TheCentaur
                      Did your read the original post?
                      Ozil-no
                      Rodriguez-yes
                      Zidane-no
                      America does not have a specific ethnicity it identifies as American, the others do.
                      Inverse correlation. The better the athlete the less the English blood
                      Rodriguez American......lol

                      If he was American he would suck and never be playing in the majors.
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                      • Rollins08
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                        • 04-20-07
                        • 1337

                        #46
                        When you say how many americans have english blood in them are you going back 2 or 3 hundred years? America has the best athletes. If we didn't have the best sports like football, baseball and basketball and all our athletes were raised playing soccer we would dominate that as well.
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                        • k13
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                          • 07-16-10
                          • 18104

                          #47
                          Originally posted by Rollins08
                          When you say how many americans have english blood in them are you going back 2 or 3 hundred years? America has the best athletes. If we didn't have the best sports like football, baseball and basketball and all our athletes were raised playing soccer we would dominate that as well.
                          No such thing as "americans" unless you mean natives which dominate no sports.

                          Baseball, doing great in those world baseball classics, (insert your excuses here)

                          All I see is blacks, latinos and europeans dominating in these sports, what americans are you talking about?
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                          • SoV
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                            • 03-21-10
                            • 6420

                            #48
                            Originally posted by SoV
                            Yeah, and so many great white athletes in the NBA, NFL etc. Oh wait.... So all American athletes are pure-blood Americans? Ok.
                            Why are you ignoring my post?
                            FML

                            http://forum.sbrforum.com/soccer-han...scussions.html
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                            • TheCentaur
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                              • 06-28-11
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                              #49
                              Originally posted by SportsPedagogy
                              This thread is dumb. Athletic performance is based on the individual, not by race or geographical location. Ricky Hatton and Joe Calzehge were great British Boxers. lennox Lewis was a great British boxer. A persons cultural can influence what sport interest them, but it's up to the individual to have the determination and discipline to become great. The UFC is flooded with Anericans because wrestling is very popular in high schools and the coligate level, that transfers over well into the UFC. just like Brazilians and jujitsu.
                              Get the fuk out of here pal, and what are you doing with Einstein as an avatar, are you trying to be ironic?
                              Ricky Hatton was not that good. Calzaghe was Welsh and Italian. Lennox Lewis...is not English blood

                              The same old retard argument of nature vs nurture in athletics. So you mean if you grew up playing basketball and it was the only way you could feed you and your family you would be in the NBA right now? Wake up pal!
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                              • Frostware
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 11-20-10
                                • 205

                                #50
                                Only hockey player I know that was born in England that was some what descent was Steve Thomas.
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                                • SportsPedagogy
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 02-13-11
                                  • 3691

                                  #51
                                  First of off , your thread is called England has no athletes. All 3 were born in England. Ricky Hatton was very good untill his last two fights. Im assuming that your argument would be that most black people in America cant swim as opposed to the fact that the majority dont grow up in neighbor hoods where swiming is readily available. Therefore, the the number of black swimmers in america is very small in comparison to the amount of blacks in america. That greatly reduces the odds of a prolific black swimmer. As for the NBA, i did grow up playing basketball. I grew up in Washington D.C and i played basketball all the time. The problem was, im 6'4" now and was one of the tallest kids o the court, so i always played a post position like center. I got to highschool and and was faced with other kids who played alot of basketball and there happened to be guys taller then me so i played power forward. In college, most centers are 6'9" and above and forwards are 6'6" and above. I have the body to play shooting guard, but i have no experience as a guard and even if i trained day in and day out, i wont be able to compete for a spot against other guys who have been playing guard there whole lives. Instead, iv won countless grappling tournaments and an MMA Championship in Colorado springs. Nobody in my family has any fight experience, it has nothing to do with my blood. Just my determination and effort.
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                                  • TheCentaur
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                                    • 06-28-11
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                                    #52
                                    Yes and then I go on to explain the premise for the title. Which you choose to ignore. You also like to ignore basic laws of nature which people like the one in your avatar value above comfortable feelings of "it was my determination and effort". Yes, determination and effort can separate those of approx equal genetics, but your genes are the limiting reagent if you will. Also, did your parents every try MMA? Then how can you know?
                                    I'm sure deep down you understand this, but you could work your ass off and play 12 hrs a day and still not be able to compete with the 6'4" players in the NBA. Since when is height not considered genetics anyway? It's the type of thing I'm talking about
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                                    • SportsPedagogy
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                                      • 02-13-11
                                      • 3691

                                      #53
                                      I do agree that everybody is created genetically equal. The russians use to test the DNA babies to see which ones had better fast twitch muscles, which ones could get really strong, which ones would be taller, and they found the ones that would be the best athletes and got them training at an early age. However, I dont think genetics have alot to do with your country of origin. 54 countries won Gold medals in the Beijing games. England has 50.5 million people, The U.S. has 308.75 million. England still took home the 4th most medals in the 2008 Olympics.
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                                      • SportsPedagogy
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                                        • 02-13-11
                                        • 3691

                                        #54
                                        Also, if i was 6'10, i think i could make the NBA.I have a very high knowledge of defensive basketball and timing for blocks, anticipating where the ball is going on a rebound. Sports are as much mental as they are physical. Look at Peyton Manning, look at Steve Kerr. Athleticism isnt just limited to people with dark skin. Look at all the free runners. That takes alot of athleticism. Look at all the white guys who were on Ninja warrior.
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                                        • TheCentaur
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                                          • 06-28-11
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                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by SportsPedagogy
                                          Also, if i was 6'10, i think i could make the NBA.
                                          And if I ran a 4.3 40 and weighed 230 lbs of pure muscle maybe I could be a running back.
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                                          • TheCentaur
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                                            • 06-28-11
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                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by SportsPedagogy
                                            I do agree that everybody is created genetically equal. The russians use to test the DNA babies to see which ones had better fast twitch muscles, which ones could get really strong, which ones would be taller, and they found the ones that would be the best athletes and got them training at an early age.
                                            Is or isn't created genetically equal? Was that a typo?
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                                            • rm18
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                                              • 09-20-05
                                              • 22291

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by SportsPedagogy
                                              Also, if i was 6'10, i think i could make the NBA.I have a very high knowledge of defensive basketball and timing for blocks, anticipating where the ball is going on a rebound. Sports are as much mental as they are physical. Look at Peyton Manning, look at Steve Kerr. Athleticism isnt just limited to people with dark skin. Look at all the free runners. That takes alot of athleticism. Look at all the white guys who were on Ninja warrior.
                                              So could I but tall people are not as coordinated or athletic in general so kind of a stupid thing to say. I mean if Muggsy Bogues was 6'10 he would of scored 41 points a game in the league I guess
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                                              • SportsPedagogy
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 02-13-11
                                                • 3691

                                                #58
                                                i ment to say that they werent created equal. But i dont think your blood line has alot to do with that. Everybody, regardless of being Black, white, Hispanic or Asian has a different DNA set. When i was in the Army, our best runner was a redneck white kid and he ran his 2 miles in just under 10 minutes.

                                                My argument of if i was 6'10" was that there were days as a kid that i spent 6 hours a day playing basketball. I lived for basketball and was very good at it, but i never had the height to keep playing the positions that i knew very well. Muggsy Bogues didnt grow up playing the center position. he was able to use his heigh and speed as an advantage.
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                                                • TheCentaur
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                                                  • 06-28-11
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                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by SportsPedagogy
                                                  However, I dont think genetics have alot to do with your country of origin. 54 countries won Gold medals in the Beijing games. England has 50.5 million people, The U.S. has 308.75 million. England still took home the 4th most medals in the 2008 Olympics.
                                                  Didn't England compete as great Britain, not England at Bejing? Anyway, take a look at this article:

                                                  It would appear that if anyone ever needed to ride a bike to the water where they would have to row, swim, sail, or canoe England would have that sh*t in the bag.
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                                                  • SportsPedagogy
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                                                    • 02-13-11
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                                                    #60
                                                    If a team of guys made up of entirely British blood, played the Miami heat in the NBA finals, for just one quarter (the 4th quarter) i would put my money on the Britts lol.
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                                                    • TheCentaur
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                                                      • 06-28-11
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                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by SportsPedagogy
                                                      If a team of guys made up of entirely British blood, played the Miami heat in the NBA finals, for just one quarter (the 4th quarter) i would put my money on the Britts lol.
                                                      Cmon, let's not get crazy here
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                                                      • TheCentaur
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                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by MendozaLine
                                                        Watching Phil Taylor throw darts is a thing of beauty. He is a true English hero. I was fortunate enough to watch him on the telly while in London 2 years ago. 2 things that are true in England. Darts, and John Smiths.
                                                        What is a John Smith?
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                                                        • SportsPedagogy
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                                                          • 02-13-11
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                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by TheCentaur
                                                          What is a John Smith?
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                                                          • rocky mattioli
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                                                            • 08-26-10
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                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by SportsPedagogy
                                                            This thread is dumb. Athletic performance is based on the individual, not by race or geographical location. Ricky Hatton and Joe Calzehge were great British Boxers. lennox Lewis was a great British boxer. A persons cultural can influence what sport interest them, but it's up to the individual to have the determination and discipline to become great. The UFC is flooded with Anericans because wrestling is very popular in high schools and the coligate level, that transfers over well into the UFC. just like Brazilians and jujitsu.

                                                            all due respect this is absolute p.c. bullshit......i`ll never be able to jump out of the gym or have fast twitch muscles like floyd mayweather or melvin guillard if i trained for 100 years...it`s no coincidence that the vast majority of great sprinters are of african extraction.....

                                                            there are physiological differences between the races....that is undeniable...

                                                            and for my british brothers?....rocky loves ya`.....no more storied and rich a history does any country have...the womb of the civilized modern western world as we know it( and the home of, imo,the greatest gangster movie of all time,the original "get carter")....unfortunately,western exceptionalisnm is dying thanks to ....well,i don`t want to get too political....

                                                            so,this thread made me think of one of my favorite old kinks tunes....unfortunately,it`s attached to a shitty p.c. video...

                                                            in the mother country`s honor:

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                                                            • TheCentaur
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                                                              #65
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                                                              • pavyracer
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                                                                • 04-12-07
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                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by Vegas_bond
                                                                I would hardly call darts a sport. I dont know what snooker is, but darts?

                                                                You throw a dart with a hand, a beer in the other hand, or what?
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                                                                • jjgold
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                                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                                  • 388179

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Throw a beer to a Brit he is happy

                                                                  Clumsy people for most part although nice people
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                                                                  • markteal
                                                                    SBR Hustler
                                                                    • 04-13-11
                                                                    • 90

                                                                    #68
                                                                    I assume and hope you're on a wind up here because otherwise you are standing out as a true idiot on a forum full of strong contenders
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                                                                    • MarlinsFan2212
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                                                                      #69
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                                                                      • TheCentaur
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                                                                        • 06-28-11
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                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by MendozaLine
                                                                        Watching Phil Taylor throw darts is a thing of beauty. He is a true English hero. I was fortunate enough to watch him on the telly while in London 2 years ago. 2 things that are true in England. Darts, and John Smiths.
                                                                        Still wondering what a John Smith is
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