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Well, heres a small victory in this madness. I deposited $2500 via online check two weeks ago, got sent a notice that it didn't go through and they are going to try it again . Generally, the check clears within three days. Ended up losing the $2500 and the check still hasn't cleared.
I'm sure as hell not going to send the money in another way when I have a FBI notice staring at me. Not at least until this cools of....Comment -
I'm not looking forward to typing all this on my phone but here's my two cents.
Sportsbooks are not immune and could very well be next. Reason being it's still gambling which is illegal for US citizens according to the 2006 law. I'm sure these SBs use many of the $ laundering schemes that the poker sites used. i.e. Bodog, where you can still deposit using a CC. That's illegal, so obviously theyre finding a way around it. Probably in a not so legal way either. Will the US go after SBs? You betcha. It's their job to protect us from ourselves. Which is the exact opposite of what this country was founded on. Freedom of speech, religion, etc. Do I think voting L or I will make a difference? Heck no. They're just R's and D's in disguise. It would take another revolt like the one from England to ever change the US back to it's original freedoms. Do I think these sites will be up and running a week after their shut down? You betcha. They will always find a way around it. Too much money involved. The only thing I would worry about is the majority of SBs doing away with US customers to avoid all the trouble all together. The few SBs that we will have left to choose from will charge unbelievably high juice cause they're few a far between and they know Americans have their addictions! i e Beer, Tobacco, porn, drugs , etc. There's always gonna be a market therefore someone will always wanna sell it. Just depends on how much you're willing to pay for it. Do I think it's possible alot of US customers won't be able to WD when they do come down on SB? You betcha. That money will be frozen and the payouts won't be available. The US government has bigger fish to fry if you ask me but their going to go after the head of the snake instead of the body. They're not gonna come raid your house in the middle of the night and arrest you for online gambling but they will hit you where it hurts and cut off your means of gambling. Kinda like arresting the big dope dealer instead of all his addicts. It's a crying shame what this country has turned into. I'm sure this wasn't what the founding fathers intended on when they founded this "great" nation (used loosely). I see this every day on my local news...some gung-ho sheriff raiding electronic bingo halls and kicking all the little old ladies out in the street. Ironically you can run down to your local church and buy a cake sale raffle ticket and it's perfectly legal. That cake is given out on a game of chance, no different than me taking the Bulls to win the NBA. How f'd up we have become.Comment -
its so aloud it shouldn't be allowedComment -
LVBound bets $5 per game
He is SHARPComment -
I made an ************** today on stars and got the second email saying it was credited and will show up 3-10 days. Crossing my fingers that they find a new processor for that. I should probably cancel the check withdrawal that I have pending now. 75 bank accounts were seized, but foreign players have been able to withdraw. Maybe stars had different accounts for U.S. player funds.Comment -
if you are a losing bettor like 99 percent of all sports bettors betting 5 dollar instead of hundreds is being sharp.Comment -
Sharp this sharp thatComment -
that's what i am saying most professionals should have off shore accounts and should be able to withdraw their large sums.
anyone that didn't and was a professional online poker player deserves to lose all that money for being an idiot.Comment -
Religion just keeps screwing up this country. It is the gift that keeps on giving.Comment -
Should I withdrawl from UB
Should I withdrawl from UB, it let me withdrawl but with there bank accounts being frozen is this a bad idea?Comment -
I didn't get past the 2nd sentence because the 2nd sentence is totally 100% untrue, and I assume the rest is based on this misconception that so many people have. The 2006 UIGEA made it illegal for a financial institution to send funds to an illegal online gambling business. It did not make anything illegal for gamblers. If it is illegal for you to gamble online, it is because of state laws. Nothing to do with federal laws.
I don't think the DOJ is using the UIGEA as basis for the arrests today either.Comment -
they are swampedComment -
sucks to have funds there !Comment -
played last nite...tonite it says playing not allowed in my area. WTF??Comment -
Guys...with all due respect anyone that leaves several thousands off shore is a fool..if BetOnSports umbrella books all folding on the same day (BOS,MVP,Millenium,Jaguar,BetTheRock GibralterSports, RockIslandSports etc) did not wisen you up then what the fuk will?
Keep a few hundred max and play the sports daily and have fun..If you bet thousands than do it legally
anyfuking book or money handler can fold overnight..Any damn one of them!
Some do it with dignity like Pinnacle..others do it like those yellow rotten toothed bastards at BOS did and steal our fuken money
look at NetTeller too!..citcom\**\{primapin check process was clipped early in the fight too
fuk em all..if uncle sam cant buy a slice of the pie he will steal it
Doesnt take a rocket scientist to know you gotta keep your balances low nuff so you cant get hurt..but get your share of actionComment -
The Big 3's processor was so good at his job of setting up thousands of shell companies to process, that he had skimmed about $100M for himself on top of making as much as $150,000 a day. The sites set him up in Vegas, he just gave up all the sites he used to work for. This is the first time the government knows EXACTLY how this runs and they couldn't have gotten a bigger target.Comment -
forgive me if Im naive but are not these operations US based?..Big difference than a book in a third world countryComment -
And...detrimental to society. I am not taking that position however similar arguments can be made for the legalization of certain drugs (i.e. heroine). At one point or another, somebody (most likely the government) figured in the long run...gambling would hurt the governments ability to acquire money. I suspect in the "long run" pervasive gambling would be counterproductive both from a vocational as well as interpersonal standpoint.Comment -
nobody got paid by betonsports
nobody in the u.s. will ever get any money from pokerstars/fulltilt - including meComment -
The two people physically arrested today were arrested for violating the UIGEA, one owned the bank in Utah that Stars and Full Tilt bought into, the other was the Australian processors U.S. guy, that would physically open all these business accounts here so that he could do the poker processors business. He somehow was released on recognizance in Vegas, but ordered to be in NY Monday, most likely to turn.Comment -
I'm sorry guys but your all fukked....
The government seized the bank accounts of these online poker sites...
The U.S. Government is not gonna pay you money that was obtained illegally ..
Only way you get paid is if this is the beginning of legalized U.S. Poker sites.. But I highly doubt thatComment -
because that doesn't help win electionsComment -
My bad wileout. It's actually the "Wire Act" that prohibits online gambling. The 2006 law doesn't make it illegal to transfer funds to a gambling institution. It makes it illegal for the gambling institutions to accept those transfers. Meaning they're not going to hunt down every Tom Dick and Harry that gambles but they will hunt down who is accepting their wagers.
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canadians can cash out money was sent to my moneybookers todayComment
