How many people have stiffed CW.

**tyler36** · 03-22-08, 03:07 PM

I'm actually a canadian resident, so i believe i will be able to bet with pinny, no? eh... lol

**SBR Lou** · 03-22-08, 03:10 PM

Originally posted by tyler36

I'm actually a canadian resident, so i believe i will be able to bet with pinny, no? eh... lol

Yeah you will. What are you waiting for?

**eyeball** · 03-22-08, 04:02 PM

I am not so sure these guys are so stupid like everyone thinks. They are catering to the recreational better.... They are giving everyone a possable free $400-$1000. Since you have to win over $400. I see it as no different than a book giving you a freeplay with a deposit. Remember its a shot that they are letting you take at them. I think they know in the long run you will loose. The books make so much money anyway its just numbers

Secondly I kind of disagree... a lot of people I think will pay them if they loose...most people. They have your address and phone number..which I think they check out to see if its you..If the phone number doesnt match as yours they dont pay you. If you dont pay I think you get calls at 3 oclock in the morning.
Intresting concept

Its kind of like your local bookie on the net

**robmpink** · 03-22-08, 04:10 PM

Originally posted by bettilimbroke999

Yea, yea everyone's getting paid Tuesday. Checks in the mail, uh huh. Keep dreaming.

I'm not hoping and praying that my $1,000 check will come. I'm rather sure that it will come early this week. What stories have you heard about people not being paid that didn't have underlying problems? None. We will get paid, no doubt about it. The following weeks? Your guess is as good as mine.

**Philavanh** · 03-22-08, 04:10 PM

Nicely said eyeball.

**tacomax** · 03-22-08, 04:29 PM

Only having scanned the thread than read it in it's entirety, there seems to be a lot of winners and a number of people who have received a cheque. Has anyone admitted to losing and sending money the other way?

**robmpink** · 03-22-08, 04:31 PM

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**bettilimbroke999** · 03-22-08, 04:33 PM

Originally posted by robmpink

I'm not hoping and praying that my $1,000 check will come. I'm rather sure that it will come early this week. What stories have you heard about people not being paid that didn't have underlying problems? None. We will get paid, no doubt about it. The following weeks? Your guess is as good as mine.

NO ONE WILL PAY THEM. How do you idiots expect a book to pay the winners when they don't collect on losing wagers. They might as well just give who ever signs up 500 if they are legit, b/c half that win the 1000 will say oh yea Ill get paid sure this books great, get paid without deposits what a dream. The half that lose will say **** em, so either way they are out 1000 for every 2 players so why not just open a site called free $500 and cut out the shit about sports betting. YOU WILL NOT BE PAID, YOU WOULDN'T NOR WOULD ANY1 ELSE HAVE PAID IF THEY LOST. THERE IS NO ONE STANDING IN LINE AT WESTERN UNION SAYING YEA I GOTTA SEND 1000 TO CREDITWAGERING.COM, YOU ARE MORONS AND WILL NOT BE PAID!!! WAKE THA FUK UP!!!

**eyeball** · 03-22-08, 04:35 PM

I also think some of the posters on the board are from other books and are afraid of these people. Its a new concept , I think they are giving everyone a free shot at them to get noticed and try their concept.

Lets face it when you guys use a local bookie dont you pay on monday?

**bettilimbroke999** · 03-22-08, 04:39 PM

Originally posted by eyeball

I also think some of the posters on the board are from other books and are afraid of these people. Its a new concept , I think they are giving everyone a free shot at them to get noticed and try their concept.

Lets face it when you guys use a local bookie dont you pay on monday?

LOL that's it it's a local bookie. You will constantly run into him and he will be hitting you up for the money and calling you a deadbeat to all your friends that show up at the bar, etc. Often times local bookies don't get paid, but they don't just give a 1000 credit line to any1 that walks in the door from God knows where, it's normally someone who's fairly local that heard about the bookie through other ppl locally, thus there's kind of a connection and the ppl don't want you to **** the bookie b/c that makes them look like they set the bookie up with a deadbeat, and makes them and you look like a jackass. Also, there is an assurance if it is a reputable bookie that he will pay when you win, here there has been no assurance. The only ppl bragging about getting paid are conveniently brand new posters who only post in this thread.

**robmpink** · 03-22-08, 04:41 PM

Originally posted by bettilimbroke999

NO ONE WILL PAY THEM. How do you idiots expect a book to pay the winners when they don't collect on losing wagers. They might as well just give who ever signs up 500 if they are legit, b/c half that win the 1000 will say oh yea Ill get paid sure this books great, get paid without deposits what a dream. The half that lose will say **** em, so either way they are out 1000 for every 2 players so why not just open a site called free $500 and cut out the shit about sports betting. YOU WILL NOT BE PAID, YOU NOR ANY1 ELSE WOULD HAVE PAID IF YOU LOST. THERE IS NO ONE STANDING IN LINE AT WESTERN UNION SAYING YEA I GOTTA SEND 1000 TO CREDITWAGERING.COM, YOU ARE MORONS AND WILL NOT BE PAID!!! WAKE THA FUK UP!!!

First of all you are spending too much time in this post with no vested interest. Sad boring life you must live. Anyway, I know I will be paid this week. I don't have any doubts about it. That being said I would make a bet with you that I will get paid. I would pay you $500 if i don't get paid and if I do get paid, you give me $250. You are so certain we (expected payouts from this past week) won't get paid. Put up or shut up. And Don't bullcrap me about how do I know you really got paid. I'll provide the copy of the check or whatever. Now I know you don't want any part of this bet. Also the way you talk, it makes you seem like a first class stiff. Why make a bet with someone who is dead set on people stiffing?

I'm rather certain the people expecting payouts from last weeks plays will be paid this week. Now as I put in the post, that doesn't mean the next set of people will be paid. My perception is you have to play it by week.

The "morons" who are expecting payout will get paid. I'm certain. Now if you said that about the Oddsmaker free $100 promo that I turned into $2,000 and cashout for $1,960 , I might have believed you. Needless to say, I was paid. All you are doing is blabbering. You will look like a fool when everyone is paid this week. Then you will defend your statements based on their business model. Why do you care if we get paid or not? Just shut your fat head and wait and see. Then you could jerk off to all of our posts if we aren't.

**eyeball** · 03-22-08, 04:48 PM

This moron needs to be banned from the site.

I am going to talk to JJ to have him"rubbed out"

**pokernut9999** · 03-22-08, 04:56 PM

Really just too many posts period about this. If they pay and continue to pay fine. I for one can not see them lasting for a long period of time. Too many people will never pay. If everyone was honest it would be a great site.

**jjgold** · 03-22-08, 05:57 PM

Originally posted by pokernut9999

Really just too many posts period about this. If they pay and continue to pay fine. I for one can not see them lasting for a long period of time. Too many people will never pay. If everyone was honest it would be a great site.

Very True

**DukeJohn** · 03-22-08, 05:59 PM

Originally posted by tacomax

Only having scanned the thread than read it in it's entirety, there seems to be a lot of winners and a number of people who have received a cheque. Has anyone admitted to losing and sending money the other way?

Yes, I read a couple of days ago on a different forum where someone did actually send money in. He said the 100% bonus was nice and so he funded his account.

I do find this remarkable since this is such a new book. With time, more and more people will deposit. It just will take a huge amount of capital to launch this, but if they get established, My God will they have a gigantic customer base. They may lose a bunch in the beginning, but if they can hold out, nearly ever single online sports bettor will have an account with them. It is simply staggering the actual potential of this site. Only time will tell...

**sir.civic** · 03-22-08, 06:07 PM

i havent been here long but i see the concept of the book is that if they get u to join in they can reel u in to bet again...i mean 1k is alot for a free play dont u guys agree?as long as we see more zeros we will be intrigued right away. (im sure dis might be a fact for books)

as for no deposit n all dat crap...i havent heard any1 who paid for der loses $$.every1 is winning..wassup w/ dat?
most of the winners r 2 months old ...

bottom line of this thread is that time will tell... lets wait for the old timers to do their job and teach us rookies who r on the limbo about dis topic

**applepicks** · 03-22-08, 06:51 PM

I've been in this business for what seems like a eternity but really only the last 5 years. I've been ripped,stiffed,slow payed and given every excuse in the book by different bookmakers. I've even been slow paid when I was down in CR and met both the manager and linesmaker at Fridays(a drinkhole down south). Got great excuses from both of em'.

Now I see that someone is offering credit to just about anyone? Sounds like a scam right? I don't disagree here but when a new book starts up they have to have a unique catch on how to attract players. Here we are presented with Creditwagers' catchy web of attracting players.

I give my license and last five to 5Dimes for my withdrawals and don't blink a eye. I've recieved well over 40k in the last 2 years from Dimes,Greek,BetJoint,Atlas, and Skybook. Never once have I blinked when asked for ID. Not once.

Now a book comes along and asks for the same but gives out credit to all comers and we all are in a doubtful mind? For good reason. Who in god's name is gonna give Madcapper or JJ ****in credit? No up and up manager I know of. This book is looking to attract on credit, take their losses, and keep the players who initially win and re-up since their model will have to eventually have to abandon the credit(to just anyone at least) side of things.

If a book paid me out on a regular basis on credit, I'd certainly be more obliged to deposit with them(when they go post up) some of my winnings from their pockets. I will say that the 100% bonus should be dumped asap, as the likes of Betonstars,NoJuice, and Bet4Aces should be kept in mind. Give loyal players 20% cash bonus and the book will do fine. Deal 20 cent lines on Baseball as to not take a hammering on bases(books get killed by guys like myself) and deal 107 for football to attract some players and all should be well.

Creditwagering will have some serious objections,trials, tribulations and some slander on the forums, but if they do overcome all of this, this book could develop one big ass clientele in a very short period of time.

I hope that every new bookmaker is on the up and up, but that is not the case. Good luck to everyone who is awaiting a a payout from this book. Just posting a opinion here is all.

APPLE

**VivaJG** · 03-24-08, 11:58 PM

I've requested a $1000 payout and I had about a 12 minute phone conversation with one of the guys in charge (they called me---they will do that if you request it). The guy sounded in his late 30s-40s, maybe older with perfect english--probably American. He was very courteous and we talked about the business model, how it would work, some of the risks--(and really not as big of risk as most think)... He knew the area that I was from and we talked about that for a minute.

Basically, I am like 90% sure I'm going to get paid. Why? Because he really wasn't bullshitting about anything on the phone. He was just talking and being honest and he sounded interested in the long haul of establishing good long term relationships.

He said that some people had been paid for winnings and then these same people lost in future weeks and did not pay.....and he said " he was going to make their lives a living hell" for the principle of it. He wasn't threatening at all towards me or in his voice, but I could tell this was my hint---"hey i'm going to pay you, but if you keep playing and **** me---don't...."

I think I'll get paid. When I do, I'll definitely be paying my losses. This could be a good thing.

Take it for what it's worth. No one knows who I am.... I'll post again when I have payment..... (((JUST reporting as I go along)))

**acw** · 03-25-08, 05:41 AM

Originally posted by applepicks

For good reason. Who in god's name is gonna give JJ ****in credit?

I would, were it not that I just want to stay out of any US$ related transfers.

Originally posted by VivaJG

He said that some people had been paid for winnings and then these same people lost in future weeks and did not pay.....

Freaking amazing, but it happens all the time!

**jjgold** · 03-25-08, 06:03 AM

no one got paid yet

**horseplayer69** · 03-25-08, 10:21 AM

Originally posted by picantel

If it comes do not use it for about a month. I work with 411 scams and alot of them originate out of Canada. They use fake banks and real banks with fake accounts and stall the checks so they do not bounce for about a month. Most of these scams originate out of nigeria and canada.

You know this is the best post out of 300 in this thread..Its very clear to me now the scam and it back fired on these idiots..What they want to do is send out a bunch of bad checks, and have people say they been paid and infact the winners lose next week and pay them.. what happens is the winners never pay these clowns anyway...Seems like a bunch of nothing for nothing here

**bettilimbroke999** · 03-25-08, 12:01 PM

My last post in this thread as I'm "upsetting" the low IQ fools that post here saying I'm 90% sure I'll get paid, oh yea but next week ppl prolly won't be paid ROFLMAO true geniuses. For those of you who wonder why their are so many new startup books, it's b/c their are so many monkeys to sign up with them, give them all their info/money etc. and start threads saying what a great book/bonuses great lines, etc., defend it like it's a newborn baby everytime some1 asks hey isn't it hard to offer "credit" gambling or a "400% signup bonus". "Yea fuk you you have no life I'll be paid blah blah blah I'll bet you 500 to 250 I'll be paid" (yea right, I wish they offered lines like this one at a real sportsbook where I would actually get paid). I am starting up a site called iwinyoulose.com, with 5000% signup bonuses and lines off by 10 pts paying +150 everybody signup and good luck getting paid out ya fukin geniuses.

**compaqDikk** · 03-25-08, 12:06 PM

guys, c'mon

i have 1 word and 1 pic to summarize all this

HYIP

**VivaJG** · 03-25-08, 12:47 PM

what?

"I'm 90% sure I'll get paid, oh yea but next week ppl prolly won't be paid ROFLMAO true geniuses."

No one said this buddy.

I haven't had to supply any more information that I've had to supply the Greek or Matchbook.

Anyway, your posts are worthless because you have no experience with these people. You sound like a big time deadbeat, talking about never paying your losses. No one has said they were legit and your posts just attack people and don't contribute anything. All we are doing is keeping others updated on what is going on..

**bettilimbroke999** · 03-25-08, 01:02 PM

Originally posted by VivaJG

"I'm 90% sure I'll get paid, oh yea but next week ppl prolly won't be paid ROFLMAO true geniuses."

No one said this buddy.

I haven't had to supply any more information that I've had to supply the Greek or Matchbook.

Anyway, your posts are worthless because you have no experience with these people. You sound like a big time deadbeat, talking about never paying your losses. No one has said they were legit and your posts just attack people and don't contribute anything. All we are doing is keeping others updated on what is going on..

You are obviously illiterate, a guy offerred to bet me 2/1 that he gets paid, BUT HE SAYS NEXT WEEK HE DOESN'T BELIEVE PPL WILL BE PAID?????? Apparently he has insider info that CW will fail next week LOL. Anyway, I am NOT A DEADBEAT, I assure you I have bet many more times than you could ever dream of gambling/investing and still have plenty of money. What I said was is that NO ONE INCLUDING MYSELF would ever go down to W.Union and send it to these CW crooks at this point (with 99% chance that they are a scam site and will either not send checks or that the checks will be bad) and I stand by that. Apparently one person on another forum paid them (or so I've been told) and if so then he is a complete moron as there have only been like 4 or 5 reported payouts in the company's history. Anyway go back to your hooked on phonics book and try to read the previous posts directed to me, virtually every one was "assured" last friday they would be paid, of course here it is tuesday and since no cash is in their hands they are backtracking saying no one thought they would be paid ROFLMAO.

**framboise** · 03-25-08, 02:24 PM

Give them some times. The majority of people didn't work last friday and yesterday.
The banks were closed last friday due to Easter break.

**bettilimbroke999** · 03-25-08, 02:29 PM

I am relaxed, I don't give a **** at all. I couldn't be more relaxed. If we had a relaxed competition I would be up 300-1 with 10 secs left in the game. I have just been criticized for the last few days for my opinion that CW.com is a scam, now that it is proven a scam everyone is either completely silent or backtracking saying they never thought they'd be paid in the first place. It just cracks me up is all, that's why I'm replying, for fun. I am not mad or tense about it, I have no horse in this race, deep down I'd like to see cw.com pay everyone as that would be one of the most unique and riskiest business ideas I've ever seen and would be good for sports gamblers, but as I say I highly doubt this will happen.

**eyeball** · 03-25-08, 02:59 PM

I don,t know but I think these guys are legit, everyone is kind of paranoid. Well why doesn't someone who is expecting a check go on live chat? The mail and banks come to a dead halt on Easter Costa Rica is a mainly Catholic country..I am not surprized.

**WestsidePete** · 03-25-08, 03:04 PM

I heard some guy called Bubba Fats was sending out the withdrawals and went beyond the processing limit of five a day..so he'll continue tomorrow...

**bettilimbroke999** · 03-25-08, 03:16 PM

Picture of one of the "winners" waiting to be paid by CreditWagering.com....

"Where ma check?"

**framboise** · 03-25-08, 03:18 PM

if someone got proofs that creditwagering is a scam operation then prove it. otherwise, don't say its a scam just because you think so.

**WestsidePete** · 03-25-08, 03:23 PM

I also have an account there...but want to see crazyl get paid first and see the scanned check....he should call the bank on it to make sure it's a real account as well...

**framboise** · 03-25-08, 03:27 PM

i would be very carelly with these guys at creditwagering.
remember they have our info. they can easily track us.
if own money to them, you better pay them or you can expect a little visit in the upcoming weeks. i don't know about you but i wouldn't like a guy comes to my house and beat the crap out of me. you know, every scenarios is possible when it comes to money.

**bettilimbroke999** · 03-25-08, 03:34 PM

Originally posted by framboise

i would be very carelly with these guys at creditwagering.
remember they have our info. they can easily track us.
if own money to them, you better pay them or you can expect a little visit in the upcoming weeks. i don't know about you but i wouldn't like a guy comes to my home and beat the crap out of me. you know, every scenarios is possible when it comes to money.

Bruno just showed up at my door step and broke my legs with a baseball bat. I must say creditwagering.com does have an aggresive collections dept.

**WestsidePete** · 03-25-08, 03:36 PM

Originally posted by framboise

i would be very carelly with these guys at creditwagering.
remember they have our info. they can easily track us.
if own money to them, you better pay them or you can expect a little visit in the upcoming weeks. i don't know about you but i wouldn't like a guy comes to my home and beat the crap out of me. you know, every scenarios is possible when it comes to money.

yea right...we're all thousands of miles away from them...the plane ticket would cost more than what anyone would owe....I guess they could wait until 20 or 30 people owe then come barrelling in and kick some ass from state to state...or hire a dedicated ass kicker in each state...