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  • imgv94
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 11-16-05
    • 17192

    #1
    True or False
    You don't know Shit about gambling unless you've been doing it for at least 5 years..
    24
    Yes: At least 5 years maybe even more
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    6
    No: new people can adapt quickly
    0%
    16
    More than 10 years is needed before you know what you are doing.
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    2
  • Kellen
    SBR MVP
    • 01-19-08
    • 3484

    #2
    False, some learn quickly but I do think experience is good.
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    • pokernut9999
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 07-25-07
      • 12757

      #3
      Depends on your definition of "knowing shit "
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      • TexansFan
        SBR MVP
        • 09-06-06
        • 3367

        #4
        False.
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        • SBR Lou
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 08-02-07
          • 37863

          #5
          The only players which would disagree are those that started out running hot.

          It takes a while before you learn what is a sucker bet, beyond just what you read, I mean situationally, there are bets you make starting out you think are good that you only realize later are not profitable decisions..
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          • imgv94
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 11-16-05
            • 17192

            #6
            Originally posted by crazyl
            The only players which would disagree are those that started out running hot.

            It takes a while before you learn what is a sucker bet, beyond just what you read, I mean situationally, there are bets you make starting out you think are good that you only realize later are not profitable decisions..
            Good post.
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            • Francis Sollozzo
              SBR MVP
              • 11-15-07
              • 2381

              #7
              depends on the age of the respondent , under 30 year olds will say 'no' ; over 30 will say 'yes'
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              • pico
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 04-05-07
                • 27321

                #8
                well, not 5 years, but you need to bet a lot of games to realize anything can happen.

                once you realize it is not impossible to score 30 pts in the last 2 minutes, then you know about gambling.
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                • TexansFan
                  SBR MVP
                  • 09-06-06
                  • 3367

                  #9
                  I disagree crazy. You can have quite an extensive knowledge of sports and not bet at all. What is someone began betting at age 40 or older but has been watching and following sports for 25 years? There are plenty of people who have been playing poker for years and never make any money. There are many instances of young guys doing well in poker.
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                  • pokernut9999
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 07-25-07
                    • 12757

                    #10
                    The funniest post I read was this week. A poster had a write -up on a game and predicted the final score 4-3. His best bet that night was that team on the RL .
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                    • SBR Lou
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 08-02-07
                      • 37863

                      #11
                      Originally posted by TexansFan
                      I disagree crazy. You can have quite an extensive knowledge of sports and not bet at all. What is someone began betting at age 40 or older but has been watching and following sports for 25 years? There are plenty of people who have been playing poker for years and never make any money. There are many instances of young guys doing well in poker.
                      There are also people that, regardless of age, start betting and run incredibly well. Gambling is not an easy way to make money, sometimes a good start is the worst thing that can happen to a gambler.
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                      • playa420
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 03-09-08
                        • 881

                        #12
                        False, I have only been gambling for six months and already have some decent capping skills.
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                        • TexansFan
                          SBR MVP
                          • 09-06-06
                          • 3367

                          #13
                          Does it take someone more than 5 years to realize parlays and such are sucker bets?
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                          • pokernut9999
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 07-25-07
                            • 12757

                            #14
                            Originally posted by playa420
                            False, I have only been gambling for six months and already have some decent capping skills.
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                            • imgv94
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 11-16-05
                              • 17192

                              #15
                              Originally posted by pokernut9999
                              The funniest post I read was this week. A poster had a write -up on a game and predicted the final score 4-3. His best bet that night was that team on the RL .
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                              • diogee
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 01-11-08
                                • 19477

                                #16
                                Originally posted by pokernut9999
                                The funniest post I read was this week. A poster had a write -up on a game and predicted the final score 4-3. His best bet that night was that team on the RL .
                                ...hopefully it was the dog RL.
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                                • SBR Lou
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 08-02-07
                                  • 37863

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by pokernut9999
                                  I laughed at that too. That is exactly what I meant when I said new players starting out running hot, thinking gambling is easy. I see guys here that admit this is their first year posting 58% records, all I can say is wait until next year...
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                                  • diogee
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 01-11-08
                                    • 19477

                                    #18
                                    I'll let you know what I think in 5 years if I am still at it.
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                                    • imgv94
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 11-16-05
                                      • 17192

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by crazyl
                                      I laughed at that too. That is exactly what I meant when I said new players starting out running hot, thinking gambling is easy. I see guys here that admit this is their first year posting 58% records, all I can say is wait until next year...
                                      Yeah it's very hard to find people winning at above 55% or high units consistently long term. Less than 1% of posters who post plays.
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                                      • chandler1981
                                        SBR Sharp
                                        • 11-18-07
                                        • 422

                                        #20
                                        IMGV,

                                        I think the experience is huge and nothing can take its place, but I have been betting for 4 years now. I feel like I have really learned alot in the past 4 yrs, but have become alot smarter about "betting" in the last 1-2 yrs.

                                        Being young and fearless is not all that good. When I was 22 I knew WAY more than I do now at 26, but for some reason I am making more betting now.

                                        I guess I thought I knew it all. I have grown wise over the last few years and I really would love to talk with some classy guys who have been doing this for 15 to 20 years. I can't imagine how wise they must be. Getting older can't be all that bad.

                                        Good question though. I suppose I may answer it differently in 10 years.
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                                        • TexansFan
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 09-06-06
                                          • 3367

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by crazyl
                                          There are also people that, regardless of age, start betting and run incredibly well. Gambling is not an easy way to make money, sometimes a good start is the worst thing that can happen to a gambler.
                                          I agree. I tend to believe there are very few people who actually make a living based entirely on betting sports.
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                                          • pokernut9999
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 07-25-07
                                            • 12757

                                            #22
                                            You should have seen my system on the dogs I had one summer, I had more money than any kid in college that year. Too bad the system failed later on.

                                            10 years ago I had craps figured out, had 15 straight winning trips between 1k to 12 k each trip. Funny how that faded away too.
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                                            • rjt721
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 02-06-07
                                              • 7929

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by pokernut9999
                                              The funniest post I read was this week. A poster had a write -up on a game and predicted the final score 4-3. His best bet that night was that team on the RL .
                                              Unbelievable.
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                                              • pico
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 04-05-07
                                                • 27321

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by pokernut9999
                                                You should have seen my system on the dogs I had one summer, I had more money than any kid in college that year. Too bad the system failed later on.

                                                10 years ago I had craps figured out, had 15 straight winning trips between 1k to 12 k each trip. Funny how that faded away too.
                                                wow, your gambling experience is so similar to mine.
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                                                • pokernut9999
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 07-25-07
                                                  • 12757

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by chandler1981
                                                  IMGV,

                                                  I think the experience is huge and nothing can take its place, but I have been betting for 4 years now. I feel like I have really learned alot in the past 4 yrs, but have become alot smarter about "betting" in the last 1-2 yrs.

                                                  Being young and fearless is not all that good. When I was 22 I knew WAY more than I do now at 26, but for some reason I am making more betting now.

                                                  I guess I thought I knew it all. I have grown wise over the last few years and I really would love to talk with some classy guys who have been doing this for 15 to 20 years. I can't imagine how wise they must be. Getting older can't be all that bad.

                                                  Good question though. I suppose I may answer it differently in 10 years.

                                                  Chandler, I have been doing it for 32 years, I have experienced it all and there is nothing in any books I have not learned from 1st hand experience.

                                                  I have written down all the do's and dont's to gambling.

                                                  If I follow my list I will always turn a profit, when I don't follow it I will always lose.

                                                  The handicapping and learning odds is the easy part, self control is the killer.

                                                  The real pros have self control. They may go days without a bet. Learn the self control and you can win long term.
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                                                  • topcat
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 04-15-08
                                                    • 1096

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by picoman
                                                    well, not 5 years, but you need to bet a lot of games to realize anything can happen.

                                                    once you realize it is not impossible to score 30 pts in the last 2 minutes, then you know about gambling.
                                                    i agree .years of knowledge is important,but once you can control your emotions[after 16 years i have never learned that one yet myself],second,money management[never,never,never,never,never,never,neve r,never,never,never,never,never chase].
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                                                    • topcat
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 04-15-08
                                                      • 1096

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by pokernut9999
                                                      Chandler, I have been doing it for 32 years, I have experienced it all and there is nothing in any books I have not learned from 1st hand experience.

                                                      I have written down all the do's and dont's to gambling.

                                                      If I follow my list I will always turn a profit, when I don't follow it I will always lose.

                                                      The handicapping and learning odds is the easy part, self control is the killer.

                                                      The real pros have self control. They may go days without a bet. Learn the self control and you can win long term.
                                                      self control is abig issue,last night had 500 on the over in the la avegers,and arizona rattlers game .
                                                      the score at half time was 38 to 38,i thought i was going to hit it easy.they score 7 in the third and that is like a killer in the afl.i then thought i was going to lose,so i got mad and therw the remote,and i cut my finger on something.well the game i had scored 7 touchdowns,and won the game.woke up this mourning ,and still had a cut ,and had no remote.lesson should have been learned many moons ago,control temper.if the game had lost,i might have went a thousand today.
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                                                      • Hoganknows
                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                        • 04-10-08
                                                        • 183

                                                        #28
                                                        I'm learning every day.
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                                                        • slacker00
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 10-06-05
                                                          • 12262

                                                          #29
                                                          Nothing that says a new guy can't come in and win.

                                                          But the guys that have survived 5+ years, have proven the test of time. Either they know how to pick their spots, or they've got a sugar mama.

                                                          Just remember that once the grease is taken, there are 20 losers for every winner over the long run. Those are pretty poor odds.
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                                                          • jjgold
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 07-20-05
                                                            • 388179

                                                            #30
                                                            It takes about 7 years yo get a grasp on it and of course you need to get barreled in 1st a few times and bottom out.
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                                                            • SexyMit
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 10-12-06
                                                              • 6139

                                                              #31
                                                              Tell the truth I don't handicap. I watch line movements and I bet from there. I keep a record of the games with the big line movements and who cover, money going one way the line going the other that is what I bet on. Like someone said above pros go days without betting well I do good on the line movements and usually pick the games right. Then I get bored and just have to have action on something then I end up losing some of my money again. But over the last 2 yrs I have learned ALOT about the line movements and that is what I TRY and stick with but like I said I usually get bored and bet stupidly sometimes...
                                                              If it seems to good to be true it usually is!!

                                                              I have a natural instinct to exploit market ineffieciencies!!
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                                                              • mofome
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 12-19-07
                                                                • 13003

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by pokernut9999
                                                                The funniest post I read was this week. A poster had a write -up on a game and predicted the final score 4-3. His best bet that night was that team on the RL .

                                                                That is awesome.
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                                                                • Ganchrow
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 08-28-05
                                                                  • 5011

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by pokernut9999
                                                                  A poster had a write -up on a game and predicted the final score 4-3. His best bet that night was that team on the RL .
                                                                  I'll just point out that this is not necessarily logically inconsistent.

                                                                  It's entirely possible for the Fave -1½ RL to still be a good bet even while the single most likely score might be Fave 4 - Dog 3. Ultimately, it's a function of the RL odds offered.

                                                                  For example, given a total of 9 and a ML of Road +120/Home -140, my models have the single most likely outcome at Home 4 - Road 3 (just barely edging out Home 5 - Road 4), but yet I'd jump on a RL of Fave -1½ +170 in a heartbeat.
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                                                                  • Willie Bee
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 02-14-06
                                                                    • 15726

                                                                    #34
                                                                    False.
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                                                                    • mofome
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 12-19-07
                                                                      • 13003

                                                                      #35
                                                                      as with everything else, different people pick things up at different rates. id say you have to be in it a few years to have much of a clue. 'knowing sports' doesn't mean squat. I know some guys here who win and couldn't name 10 NFL players.
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