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  • AgainstAllOdds
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 02-24-08
    • 6053

    #1
    Is it possible to get out of gambling?
    Can you really quit once you start? I think its like "you can take the person out of the ghetto, but you cant take the ghetto out of the person" type thing...Im thinking im gonna be barrelled in for life!
    Originally posted by SBR_John
    AAO = good dude. Buying you a drink in Vegas buddy.
  • pokernut9999
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 07-25-07
    • 12757

    #2
    Very few have.
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    • pico
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      #3
      first step, stop coming to sbr.
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      • pat venditto
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 05-07-07
        • 14347

        #4
        the best way to quit gambling is to bet the right way to give you an advantage so its not gambling. 1% on each bet and no chasing. and no betting 20k on the patriots -7 in the 1st half.
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        • Francis Sollozzo
          SBR MVP
          • 11-15-07
          • 2381

          #5
          AAO , have to pick up something else like drinking
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          • pico
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            #6
            Originally posted by pat venditto
            the best way to quit gambling is to bet the right way to give you an advantage so its not gambling. 1% on each bet and no chasing. and no betting 20k on the patriots -7 in the 1st half.
            what?
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            • pokernut9999
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 07-25-07
              • 12757

              #7
              Originally posted by pat venditto
              the best way to quit gambling is to bet the right way to give you an advantage so its not gambling. 1% on each bet and no chasing. and no betting 20k on the patriots -7 in the 1st half.
              You have a lot to learn kid, quit dreaming.
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              • WileOut
                SBR MVP
                • 02-04-07
                • 3844

                #8
                The only available advantage betting where the player actually has a small advantage on each bet he makes is at matchbook now with their 1% juice on baseball. You can see if you have an advantage on your bet by putting the numbers into the half point calculator. If its a bet at matchbook dont forget to factor in the juice which is 2% for everything other than baseball.
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                • bettilimbroke999
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 02-04-08
                  • 13254

                  #9
                  Originally posted by AgainstAllOdds
                  Can you really quit once you start? I think its like "you can take the person out of the ghetto, but you cant take the ghetto out of the person" type thing...Im thinking im gonna be barrelled in for life!
                  Very difficult to quit, there is something unique about gambler's that they are not usually ever able to stop, more about the action than the money. Stu Ungar they say went from broke to millionaire to broke many times in his life, he won a dozen tournaments with 5k+ entry fees as well as being one of the best card counters at blackjack in history, he is estimated to have won 30 million dollars at the poker table and died without any assets to his name. The best strategy is to go about gambling in such a way as to wait for the best wagers possible, ignoring games where you have little/no edge, if you do this over the long haul excercising money management skills, it's entirely possible to win long-term. If you play every game, chase, etc. it is entirely unavoidable that you'll be barrelled in. Excercise the one advantage you have over the bookie, choice, which games to play and which side to take.
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                  • Reload
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 03-23-08
                    • 12250

                    #10
                    It's real tough because the "fever" is always there. Even if you quit for a few months, something generally comes along to draw you back in. Your only real chance is if you have something you enjoy more than gambling eventually coming along to fill the void left behind. And that's pretty hard to consistently have.
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                    • pokernut9999
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 07-25-07
                      • 12757

                      #11
                      Originally posted by bettilimbroke999
                      Very difficult to quit, there is something unique about gambler's that they are not usually ever able to stop, more about the action than the money. Stu Ungar they say went from broke to millionaire to broke many times in his life, he won a dozen tournaments with 5k+ entry fees as well as being one of the best card counters at blackjack in history, he is estimated to have won 30 million dollars at the poker table and died without any assets to his name. The best strategy is to go about gambling in such a way as to wait for the best wagers possible, ignoring games where you have little/no edge, if you do this over the long haul excercising money management skills, it's entirely possible to win long-term. If you play every game, chase, etc. it is entirely unavoidable that you'll be barrelled in. Excercise the one advantage you have over the bookie, choice, which games to play and which sides to take.

                      Yea , Unger made millions at cards and blew it all on sports, horses and drugs.

                      His best friend told him to stick to what he was best at but he never did.
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                      • bettilimbroke999
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 02-04-08
                        • 13254

                        #12
                        Originally posted by pokernut9999
                        Yea , Unger made millions at cards and blew it all on sports, horses and drugs.

                        His best friend told him to stick to what he was best at but he never did.
                        True, but I don't imagine Ungar as being a practitioner of money management, more like blow your winnings on coke, hookers, and partying when you're up (and apparently often just giving 10s of thousands away to his friends when he was winning...must've been nice for his friends) when you're on a winning streak and chase like a demon when you're losing and blow what's left on coke. In fact he was so strung out on drugs that he refused his backer's offer to stake him in the 98' WSOP ME even though he was flat broke, also he only smoked crack in the last couple years of his life b/c he had snorted so much coke it had destroyed his nose to the point he could no longer snort it (now that's what I call a gambling/drug addict).
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                        • pokernut9999
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 07-25-07
                          • 12757

                          #13
                          No he had no money mangement skills at all , just no one could beat him at poker or gin. Doubt he ever won at horses or sports from what I heard.
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                          • DAWGPEN
                            SBR Hustler
                            • 02-26-08
                            • 58

                            #14
                            Originally posted by AgainstAllOdds
                            Can you really quit once you start? I think its like "you can take the person out of the ghetto, but you cant take the ghetto out of the person" type thing...Im thinking im gonna be barrelled in for life!
                            Why in the world would you want to quit gambling? It's fun being a degenerate.
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                            • AgainstAllOdds
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 02-24-08
                              • 6053

                              #15
                              Originally posted by DAWGPEN
                              Why in the world would you want to quit gambling? It's fun being a degenerate.
                              For me, its the grind...cant take it anymore...and by grind I mean capping games for 2-5 hours then watching them and if they dont lose you have to sweat them out. Nothing like capping games for 3 hours just to go 0-3 or 1-2. Also the poker is starting to get to me. Nothing like sitting at a table for a 5 hour session just to break even or come away with $20.
                              Originally posted by SBR_John
                              AAO = good dude. Buying you a drink in Vegas buddy.
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                              • SBR Lou
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                                • 08-02-07
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by AgainstAllOdds
                                For me, its the grind...cant take it anymore...and by grind I mean capping games for 2-5 hours
                                Tell me you're not serious.
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                                • pico
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by pokernut9999
                                  No he had no money mangement skills at all , just no one could beat him at poker or gin. Doubt he ever won at horses or sports from what I heard.
                                  Ungar is a sad example. gambling is not a financial problem.
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                                  • BuddyBear
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 08-10-05
                                    • 7233

                                    #18
                                    No. Once you get going it's a psychological thing that you can't escape. There is nothing in the world that compares to having action on a game for most of us. It does not matter how much you bet as long as you bet. And you don't care if you win, you just want to keep betting and betting and betting. Most guys here would pass up sex to bet. Fortunately for most guys they don't have to make that choice very often.

                                    Just about everyone on here suffers from the same gambling addiction. Some guys are at more advanced stages of their addiction, but we're pretty much all in the same boat and need each other's company to get by. We'll be on here together 10 years from now sharing our sorrow about how our lives passed us by while we were busy getting ready for the Sunday night game. Nothing changes for us on here, it's the same thing everyday....we've all lost even if we've won some money in the process.
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                                    • AgainstAllOdds
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 02-24-08
                                      • 6053

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by crazyl
                                      Tell me you're not serious.
                                      whats wrong with that? Sometimes it does take me that long...specially when its a big card night or I see alot of games I like...I guess thats just my style...
                                      Originally posted by SBR_John
                                      AAO = good dude. Buying you a drink in Vegas buddy.
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                                      • pokernut9999
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 07-25-07
                                        • 12757

                                        #20
                                        I agree, only a few if any actually gamble for financial gain. I know why I do it and it has nothing to do with money.
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                                        • pico
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by BuddyBear
                                          No. Once you get going it's a psychological thing that you can't escape. There is nothing in the world that compares to having action on a game for most of us. It does not matter how much you bet as long as you bet. And you don't care if you win, you just want to keep betting and betting and betting. Most guys here would pass up sex to bet. Fortunately for most guys they don't have to make that choice very often.

                                          Just about everyone on here suffers from the same gambling addiction. Some guys are at more advanced stages of their addiction, but we're pretty much all in the same boat and need each other's company to get by. We'll be on here together 10 years from now sharing our sorrow about how our lives passed us by while we were busy getting ready for the Sunday night game. Nothing changes for us on here, it's the same thing everyday....we've all lost even if we've won some money in the process.
                                          hit the nail there. sad but true. i tried to quit many times, never lasted more than two weeks. whenever i am up, i always find ways to blow most of it on overbetting.

                                          so true.
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                                          • BuddyBear
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                                            • 08-10-05
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                                            #22
                                            I withdrew Thursday...and then redeposited on Friday
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                                            • pico
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by pokernut9999
                                              I agree, only a few if any actually gamble for financial gain. I know why I do it and it has nothing to do with money.
                                              when i first started, it is about making quick bucks for beer money. now it is pretty much all about the action. i can't really quit completely. my only strategy now is whenever i am up and trying to take it easy, i start to bet 5 dollar games to stay in the action. kind of sick...
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                                              • pico
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by BuddyBear
                                                I withdrew Thursday...and then redeposited on Friday
                                                tell me about it. whenever i get money from one book, two days later it goes to reload another book.
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                                                • pokernut9999
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 07-25-07
                                                  • 12757

                                                  #25
                                                  Been at it for 32 years, tried many times to quit and it is the hardest thing to do.
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                                                  • SBR Lou
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                                                    • 08-02-07
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                                                    #26
                                                    This thread isn't cool. Many of us like to remain in denial about our compulsive gambling habits and wasting away our time
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                                                    • pico
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                                                      • 04-05-07
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by pokernut9999
                                                      Been at it for 32 years, tried many times to quit and it is the hardest thing to do.
                                                      buy a ps3...that works for a while.

                                                      or join a sports league...that works too
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                                                      • pokernut9999
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 07-25-07
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                                                        #28
                                                        I actually got tired of online poker and have quit that , only bet sports to pass time.
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                                                        • pico
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by crazyl
                                                          This thread isn't cool. Many of us like to remain in denial about our compulsive gambling habits and wasting away our time
                                                          hey, i was in denial for a long time. that just seem foolish after awhile. gambling is not a good thing, but i think it is too late for me to quit now.
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                                                          • pico
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by pokernut9999
                                                            I actually got tired of online poker and have quit that , only bet sports to pass time.
                                                            i got into online poker 1 year before sports gambling. i guess i was in the same boat. i used to like play poker while watching NL games during the summer.
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                                                            • BuddyBear
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                                                              • 08-10-05
                                                              • 7233

                                                              #31
                                                              Best you can do it to hope to minimize it. What i've started to do is to plan social events around games like going to the dog park, going out to eat....last night went to an art gallary and then a show, etc....

                                                              It's really in your best interest not to watch these games at all if possible.
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                                                              • Francis Sollozzo
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 11-15-07
                                                                • 2381

                                                                #32
                                                                I'm a gambler , been one since I was 12yo , will die one. I'm not proud of that statement , just the truth. As Jim said , "No one gets out of here alive."
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                                                                • imgv94
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 11-16-05
                                                                  • 17192

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by AgainstAllOdds
                                                                  For me, its the grind...cant take it anymore...and by grind I mean capping games for 2-5 hours then watching them and if they dont lose you have to sweat them out. Nothing like capping games for 3 hours just to go 0-3 or 1-2. Also the poker is starting to get to me. Nothing like sitting at a table for a 5 hour session just to break even or come away with $20.


                                                                  Capping games for 5 hours? How do you cap games for 5 hours? WTF what is it that you are looking at for 300 minutes?
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                                                                  • Iwinyourmoney
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 04-18-07
                                                                    • 18368

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I think you will never quit........you may stop for X amount of time, but it always comes back. Just like cancer
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                                                                    • SBR Lou
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                                                                      • 08-02-07
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by BuddyBear
                                                                      It's really in your best interest not to watch these games at all if possible.
                                                                      This is true, especially through rough stretches. It's always enjoyable watching when you've had a great week or month, but when nothing seems to go your way all watching does is stress you out further.

                                                                      There's no good emotion to come from watching, whether a thrill or a low, both are bad. I think the reality of it is, most of us watch because we have nothing else to do or choose to do nothing else because gambling is how we pass time.
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