Is there any MLB matchup that you would lay -185 on?

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  • mofome
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 12-19-07
    • 13003

    #1
    Is there any MLB matchup that you would lay -185 on?
    I cant think of one.
  • SBR Lou
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 08-02-07
    • 37863

    #2
    -185 fuck that.

    I'd rather play small dogs or baby favorites, or totals.
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    • diogee
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 01-11-08
      • 19477

      #3
      Fadable Fish would
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      • 5 star bomb
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 10-12-07
        • 5370

        #4
        Yes.... If I feel a game should be 250 or higher and the line is 185 I will at least consider playing it. I hate laying numbers like that and very very rarely will do it. But there are times where its more than acceptable imo
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        • LT Profits
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 10-27-06
          • 90963

          #5
          No, I never even lay -130...LOL
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          • onlooker
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 08-10-05
            • 36572

            #6
            N.O Spells No.

            I have a hard time betting over -130, but I would say 95% of my bets are underdogs.
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            • MrX
              SBR MVP
              • 01-10-06
              • 1540

              #7
              I will gladly lay -185 and beyond when it is +EV.

              And, yes, there are +EV opportunities at those prices.
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              • MadCapper
                SBR MVP
                • 01-27-08
                • 4179

                #8
                Hell no!

                Even the BEST teams lose 60+ games each year!
                My Blog: http://madcapper.mysbrforum.com/
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                • durito
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 07-03-06
                  • 13173

                  #9
                  Yes, absolutely.
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                  • Joeyfitzclick
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 01-04-08
                    • 479

                    #10
                    Johan Santana at home V Pitt's fifth starter ?

                    Sure
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                    • mathdotcom
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 03-24-08
                      • 11689

                      #11
                      Yes. Any team that has JJ batting cleanup.
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                      • Willie Bee
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 02-14-06
                        • 15726

                        #12
                        Is there any MLB matchup that you would lay -185 on?

                        Jake Peavy vs the Giants with Russ Ortiz or Woody Williams starting, I'd have to at least think about that one.
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                        • durito
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 07-03-06
                          • 13173

                          #13
                          Basically what someone is saying when they won't lay above -170 is that no team has a greater than 64.9% of winning the game.

                          If that is in fact the case, then the books and markets are mis pricing games with large favorites. If that's the case, every game at +190 or above would be profitable and we should all be raking in cash betting all of them.
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                          • LT Profits
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 10-27-06
                            • 90963

                            #14
                            Originally posted by durito
                            Basically what someone is saying when they won't lay above -170 is that no team has a greater than 64.9% of winning the game.

                            If that is in fact the case, then the books and markets are mis pricing games with large favorites. If that's the case, every game at +190 or above would be profitable and we should all be raking in cash betting all of them.
                            The best team in baseball will only win about 62% of the time and the worst team will still win about 38%. So if my handicapping points me to a big favorite, I'd much rather pass the game than lay those odds. That is not the same thing as saying bet all big dogs blindly.
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                            • pokernut9999
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 07-25-07
                              • 12757

                              #15
                              When you have the top pitchers going against low level teams I will all the time.

                              Games like last Friday Astros/Oswalt and Saturday Cleveland/Carmona no because the teams they are playing were hot coming in and they are not in my opiniion reliable as neither was team playing well.

                              Give me Sheets, Peavy , Webb against crappy teams and yes.
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                              • mofome
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 12-19-07
                                • 13003

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Willie Bee
                                Jake Peavy vs the Giants with Russ Ortiz or Woody Williams starting, I'd have to at least think about that one.

                                You can't make up teams Mr Bee. I would take peavy on the yankees with pap closing over the UGA bulldogs.

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                                • mofome
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 12-19-07
                                  • 13003

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by pokernut9999
                                  When you have the top pitchers going against low level teams I will all the time.

                                  Games like last Friday Astros/Oswalt and Saturday Cleveland/Carmona no because the teams they are playing were hot coming in and they are not in my opiniion reliable as neither was team playing well.

                                  Give me Sheets, Peavy , Webb against crappy teams and yes.


                                  Sheets is under .500 in his career.
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                                  • pokernut9999
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 07-25-07
                                    • 12757

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by mofome
                                    Sheets is under .500 in his career.
                                    Did not say every game, talking in the present. The way those guys are pitching now if they came up -185 vs crap teams I would play them.

                                    It is obvious you cant not lay -185+ every time a pitcher or good team plays. There are selective times a big line is worth it.
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                                    • buztah
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 03-23-07
                                      • 7470

                                      #19
                                      Sure if it's free money. When you win there's no juice.
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                                      • LT Profits
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 10-27-06
                                        • 90963

                                        #20
                                        Actually, BLINDLY playing all underdogs greater than +200 is 371-882, -1.51 units since 1999. It should not take much filtering to turn -1.51 into a nice profit.
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                                        • pokernut9999
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 07-25-07
                                          • 12757

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by LT Profits
                                          Actually, BLINDLY playing all underdogs greater than +200 is 371-882, -1.51 units since 1999. It should not take much filtering to turn -1.51 into a nice profit.
                                          Or vice versa
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                                          • thegreatdiatchi
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 03-07-08
                                            • 1154

                                            #22
                                            Only if i'm really confident on it but only 1/1000 plays.
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                                            • durito
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 07-03-06
                                              • 13173

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by buztah
                                              Sure if it's free money. When you win there's no juice.
                                              there's juice whenever you place a bet, win or lose (perhaps unless you were playing at no-juice sportsbook, which i believe was a deposit only operation)
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                                              • JEMFS
                                                SBR Rookie
                                                • 02-01-08
                                                • 15

                                                #24
                                                It does not happen often, but if the statistics and trends take me in that direction I'll go with the heavy fav.
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                                                • pokernut9999
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 07-25-07
                                                  • 12757

                                                  #25
                                                  Webb vs Zito Wednesday , book it.
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                                                  • mofome
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 12-19-07
                                                    • 13003

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by pokernut9999
                                                    Webb vs Zito Wednesday , book it.


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                                                    • pat venditto
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 05-07-07
                                                      • 14347

                                                      #27
                                                      When Its A Winner Theres No Juice.
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                                                      • diogee
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 01-11-08
                                                        • 19477

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by pokernut9999
                                                        Webb vs Zito Wednesday , book it.
                                                        Still can't do it but definitely a good parlay option for Hudson or Penny.
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                                                        • JRS21386
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 04-13-08
                                                          • 2213

                                                          #29
                                                          Yeah i agree with dio... Good parlay option but i wouldnt play it on singles..
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                                                          • mofome
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 12-19-07
                                                            • 13003

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by pat venditto
                                                            When Its A Winner Theres No Juice.


                                                            what about when its a loser?

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                                                            • JRS21386
                                                              Restricted User
                                                              • 04-13-08
                                                              • 2213

                                                              #31
                                                              I like underdogs myself...
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                                                              • mofome
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 12-19-07
                                                                • 13003

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by JRS21386
                                                                I like underdogs myself...


                                                                nats +190?
                                                                Cinci +185?


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                                                                • pat venditto
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 05-07-07
                                                                  • 14347

                                                                  #33
                                                                  dont pick losers no problem
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                                                                  • Cannon
                                                                    Restricted User
                                                                    • 01-03-08
                                                                    • 3329

                                                                    #34
                                                                    AL east against the Texas Rangers.
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                                                                    • mofome
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 12-19-07
                                                                      • 13003

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by pat venditto
                                                                      dont pick losers no problem


                                                                      well we cant all be all in on an awful play and get bailed out with 11 runs in 3 innings.

                                                                      my apologies.

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