so many suckers fell for that line movement instead of looking at the facts

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  • The Seer
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 10-29-07
    • 10641

    #1
    so many suckers fell for that line movement instead of looking at the facts
    **This is NOT a gloat. I just hate seeing guys bet games based solely on line movement.

    Auburn had the better D line, better O line, better players, and the best player on the field. Let's not forget they played a much tougher schedule and played in epic battles all season. 5.1 yds per carry vs 2.3 yds per carry pretty much explains it. The score was much closer than the game. Oregon pulled out all stops with fakes and going for it on 4th downs & were still taken out of their game.
    Line movement can be deceiving. I've done it before & got burned & don't like seeing fellow posters falling for it either. we're all here to make $.



    edit: I posted the same analysis before the game here for those of you that will say it's easy to say after the game:
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    Last edited by The Seer; 01-11-11, 05:13 PM.
  • mmike032
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 09-11-08
    • 8905

    #2
    Originally posted by The Seer
    Auburn had the better D line, better O line, better players, and the best player on the field. Let's not forget they played a much tougher schedule and played in epic battles all season. The score was much closer than the game. Oregon pulled out all stops with fakes and were still taken out of their game. Line movement can be deceiving. I did it myself in the Stnford/VT game instead of trusting myself.
    some of us didnt overlook this
    LOS was dominated by AU as I expected
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    • paco
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 05-07-09
      • 62873

      #3
      Auburn D played perfect Seer :
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      • mmike032
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        • 09-11-08
        • 8905

        #4
        Ducks averaged 300 something rushing YDs a game.
        did they break 100 tonight?
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        • KKoz9
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          • 09-07-06
          • 1982

          #5
          Was waiting for the first I told-you-so-after-the-fact post.

          Even game could have gone either way, especially if they tackle the dude and don't give 35 free yards.
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          • Wreckloose
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 06-05-10
            • 618

            #6
            Oregon had lots of negative runs in other games I watched, just were able to break big ones. I'm glad they kept trying the zone read instead of throwing more.
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            • southpaw74
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 12-21-09
              • 7104

              #7
              Should have gone to overtime. That's impressive considering auburn seemed to be much better all around.
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              • brooks85
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                • 01-05-09
                • 44709

                #8
                I know you guys won so you are excited but you won a coin flip. The under was the play.
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                • The Seer
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                  • 10-29-07
                  • 10641

                  #9
                  Originally posted by KKoz9
                  Was waiting for the first I told-you-so-after-the-fact post. Even game could have gone either way, especially if they tackle the dude and don't give 35 free yards.
                  aub should have won by more, just telling people not to base their betting solely off line movement. I've got burned doing it before too & learned my lesson.
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                  • Brock Landers
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                    • 06-30-08
                    • 45360

                    #10
                    had Auburn at -2, was glad to see it wasn't -3

                    That was a hell of a fun game
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                    • Vol_Bengal
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 11-30-10
                      • 480

                      #11
                      honestly... Auburn had 3 different drives from mid 3rd thru 4th quarter to put em away and let em stay around... should have been up 15 by mid 4th quarter honestly. I liked Auburn though. Best offensive player, best defensive player, and best offensive and defensive lines... that is where championships are won.
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                      • brooks85
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 01-05-09
                        • 44709

                        #12
                        so oregon stopping auburn on those drives had nothing to do with it?



                        oregon failed to score from a few yards out and did not settle for a fg, there is 3 easy points off the board they could have had, changes a lot of things. This game was a coin flip.

                        62% were on auburn ats
                        68% were on oregon ml
                        Last edited by brooks85; 01-11-11, 12:42 AM.
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                        • Capybara
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                          • 08-17-08
                          • 11803

                          #13
                          Well, it's easy to say that Seer, but in general, when the public is 60% on one side (Auburn here) and the line is flying the other way -- really flying -- the sharps are on to something.

                          I agree that in this case it seemed to make no sense -- taking the team with the softer schedule from the softer conference -- but following RLM like that, you'll win more than you lose. That's all.
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                          • The Seer
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                            • 10-29-07
                            • 10641

                            #14
                            Originally posted by mmike032
                            Ducks averaged 300 something rushing YDs a game.
                            did they break 100 tonight?
                            LaMicheal James 49 yds
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                            • paco
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                              • 05-07-09
                              • 62873

                              #15
                              Originally posted by The Seer
                              aub should have won by more, just telling people not to base their betting solely off line movement. I've got burned doing it before too & learned my lesson.
                              Cash it baby!

                              Brooks is right, under was the real play especially with these teams having a month to prepare as I posted in my thread!
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                              • The Seer
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                                • 10-29-07
                                • 10641

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Capybara
                                Well, it's easy to say that Seer, but in general, when the public is 60% on one side (Auburn here) and the line is flying the other way -- really flying -- the sharps are on to something. I agree that in this case it seemed to make no sense -- taking the team with the softer schedule from the softer conference -- but following RLM like that, you'll win more than you lose. That's all.
                                Capy, many bowl games this year would have got you buried following RLM
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                                • Naz18
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 09-10-09
                                  • 4277

                                  #17
                                  SEC
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                                  • brooks85
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 01-05-09
                                    • 44709

                                    #18
                                    i know i wont ever bet against an sec team in the championship game tho
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                                    • Domer
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                                      • 01-21-10
                                      • 1046

                                      #19
                                      I love the rocket scientists that analyze which side is the correct one after the game has been played.
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                                      • KKoz9
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                                        • 09-07-06
                                        • 1982

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by The Seer
                                        aub should have won by more, just telling people not to base their betting solely off line movement. I've got burned doing it before too & learned my lesson.

                                        Gotcha bout the line movement. Irrelevant in my opinion.

                                        Don't forget that Oregon turned ball over twice in the red zone...so don't know that Auburn should have won by more, if should have at all.

                                        I saw it as pretty even game overall. I was on the under so don't really have any agenda here.
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                                        • notsosharp
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 10-25-10
                                          • 799

                                          #21
                                          The field was atriocous. Players falling down every play. congrats auburn backers.
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                                          • The Seer
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                                            • 10-29-07
                                            • 10641

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Domer
                                            I love the rocket scientists that analyze which side is the correct one after the game has been played.
                                            I listed all of the same facts BEFORE the game, mr observant.
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                                            • GoldRush7
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 04-27-09
                                              • 2014

                                              #23
                                              I was on Auburn and I can honestly say there were multiple plays in the game that could have changed the outcome. I am glad I was on the side I was, but there was no way to tell what was going to happen honestly.
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                                              • talnted
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 02-11-09
                                                • 1664

                                                #24
                                                indeed auburn has way more talent then oregon so this victory really isn't very surprising. amazing game
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                                                • BiffTFinancial
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                                                  • 01-29-09
                                                  • 22670

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by The Seer
                                                  Capy, many bowl games this year would have got you buried following RLM
                                                  UConn, Michigan, Virginia Tech, Michigan State, Penn State....
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                                                  • jashtonrich
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 03-16-09
                                                    • 536

                                                    #26
                                                    it was a great game would have liked ot though since its the last game of the year
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                                                    • talnted
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                                                      • 02-11-09
                                                      • 1664

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Domer
                                                      I love the rocket scientists that analyze which side is the correct one after the game has been played.
                                                      boo hoo you had oregon
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                                                      • beerman2619
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 12-24-09
                                                        • 7752

                                                        #28
                                                        i love clowns like this that start threads like this after game was over. A 3 point game and some clown brags about how he knew the outcome of the game. When the outcome could of easily went the other way. Way to go what a sharp play
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                                                        • BadNina
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 11-27-07
                                                          • 10491

                                                          #29
                                                          As a true Bama fan I could not find it in me to pull for Auburn. But I did bet on them. Naturally they screwed me over since I had them at -3. Typical.


                                                          but I won SBR points on them at +1. I think John is still bitter over the beat down on his Long Horns last year against the SEC.
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                                                          • The Seer
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                                                            • 10-29-07
                                                            • 10641

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by beerman2619
                                                            i love clowns like this that start threads like this after game was over. A 3 point game and some clown brags about how he knew the outcome of the game. When the outcome could of easily went the other way. Way to go what a sharp play
                                                            hey jerkoff, read post #22. You musta blindly followed the linemovement
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                                                            • No coincidences
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 01-18-10
                                                              • 76300

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by The Seer
                                                              I did it myself in the Stnford/VT game instead of trusting myself.
                                                              Why do you keep using this as a reference point? Stanford opened at -1 and was immediately pounded up.

                                                              As for this game, Auburn was the better team -- but don't act like this was a slam dunk. Despite that and Oregon playing like total dogshit, it still came down to the final play.

                                                              If Kelly kicks the stupid fvcking field goal instead of going for it from the 1, this thread may not have existed.
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                                                              • ronjon619
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 09-06-09
                                                                • 3675

                                                                #32
                                                                the ORE QB had to have played his worst game.
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                                                                • No coincidences
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                                                                  • 01-18-10
                                                                  • 76300

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by BiffTFinancial
                                                                  UConn, Michigan, Virginia Tech, Michigan State, Penn State....
                                                                  Late money was on Oklahoma, Stanford was pounded up from an open of 1, and late money was on Bama.

                                                                  I'd cite Miami (Ohio) before anything if you want to make an anti-RLM argument. And RLM isn't 100% -- not sure why people who like to throw it under the bus assume line watchers think otherwise. It's not smart to regularly bet against it -- that's all I'd say.
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                                                                  • tltaylor89
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 06-19-09
                                                                    • 19610

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Coin flip my ass Auburn was bigger up front
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                                                                    • talnted
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                                                                      • 02-11-09
                                                                      • 1664

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by tltaylor89
                                                                      Coin flip my ass Auburn was bigger up front
                                                                      thank you. and the talent on auburns side defensively and offensively was undeniably dominant.
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