Gilbert Arenas to the Magic?

OmgUrMom · 12-18-10, 01:39 PM

they might as well try something

hostile takeover · 12-18-10, 01:41 PM

the magic don't need this nonsense. long term this is a huge step backwards

Dirty Sanchez · 12-18-10, 02:09 PM

What makes the Magic think that Arenas and his drama is the answer? Arenas is an assclown...the Magic need some horses to support Howard

Tree Rollins · 12-18-10, 02:11 PM

Magic getting desperate after losing 5 of 6

szk1983 · 12-18-10, 02:13 PM

who cares? he's washed up!

DeeWizzle · 12-18-10, 02:13 PM

Very desperate move

Nellyinctown · 12-18-10, 02:14 PM

They are also trading Vince Carter to the Suns

Jimmy0607 · 12-18-10, 02:14 PM

Id rather have Arenas than Carter

BrigadierPudding · 12-18-10, 02:16 PM

Carter and Gortat to the Suns for Hedo and Jrich.

Tree Rollins · 12-18-10, 02:16 PM

BREAKING NEWS: Magic close to sending Vince Carter and Marcin Gortat to the Suns for Hedo Turkoglu and Jason Richardson

Tree Rollins · 12-18-10, 02:17 PM

Looks like a few of us got on espn at the same time

Hedo going back to the Magic

blowseq · 12-18-10, 02:25 PM

Originally posted by Tree Rollins

BREAKING NEWS: Magic close to sending Vince Carter and Marcin Gortat to the Suns for Hedo Turkoglu and Jason Richardson

RichardMoss · 12-18-10, 02:25 PM

the trade is official "Wizards and Magics have agreed on a trade that send Gilbert Arenas to Orlando for Rashard Lewis"

Pauulzcappin · 12-18-10, 02:29 PM

Arenas for Lewis while getting Turko back might be good for the Magic...

Tree Rollins · 12-18-10, 02:42 PM

Originally posted by RichardMoss

the trade is official "Wizards and Magics have agreed on a trade that send Gilbert Arenas to Orlando for Rashard Lewis"

Says who? I hear it's real close, not official though.

demens · 12-18-10, 02:45 PM

Huge trades going down. Name wise at least.

To sort out whats going down (reportedly):

Code:

[B]Orlando:
In[/B]
Arenas
Richardson
Hedo
Clark
[B]Out[/B]
Carter
Lewis
Pietrus
Gortat
2011 1st rounder

Code:

[B]Wash:
In[/B]
Lewis
[B]Out [/B]
Arenas

Code:

[B]Suns:
In[/B]
Carter
Piertrus
Gortat
Orl 2011 1st rounder
[B]Out[/B]
Richardson
Hedo
Clark

Tree Rollins · 12-18-10, 02:47 PM

Hey demens, shouldn't that be Earl 'Clark' isntead of Earl 'Barron'

Stacocakes · 12-18-10, 02:47 PM

Seems like the Magic are getting a bunch of players all around the same size. Who's going to back up howard when he gets in foul trouble? Not sure about these trades at all.Turkoglu has looked washed up and Arenas is an injury waiting to happen.Jrich will be good in Orlando though for sure

JOHON8 · 12-18-10, 02:48 PM

Just get rid of Carter this guy is a washed up player.

Tree Rollins · 12-18-10, 02:50 PM

Magic new starting lineup?
PG Nelson
SG Richardson
SF- Hedo
PF- Bass
C- Howard
6th man- Arenas

Pauulzcappin · 12-18-10, 02:54 PM

Don't see Hedo starting at SF.

Nelson, Arenas, Richardson, Hedo/Bass, Howard looks better to me.

demens · 12-18-10, 02:59 PM

Real panic move by Orlando imo. Horrible trade for them. I thought they had a good enough unit to compete now, did make the finals 2 years ago. Now they revamp the line-up in a MAJOR way cause of a little bad run. Wow. Added some big names but guys who are passed their prime and who knows if they will even mesh with that team.

Not only that, they totally **** themselves by taking on Arenas's and Hedos contacts. Carter was exp, Lewis only had 1 more year left. Yes Gortat is overpaid as a back up but holy shit they added 3 years 62 mil in Arenas and 2 years 22 mil in Hedo. Horrible gamble on 2 guys that looked like shadows of their former selves.

I thought this would be a come back year for Arenas, but the guy is now strictly a shooter. He is scared of contact and nowhere near as quick after the injuries. Hedo has been one of the biggest failures since that run to the finals with Orl 2 years ago. Those 2 might have THE 2 most toxic contacts in the league. They are tons of bad ones, but they are up there. Maybe they are counting on Hedo to thrive being back in that system where he had his best year but with Arenas needing the ball too i dont see that at all. Plus they get rid of 2 good rotation guys in Pietrus and Gortat. They think they will get by with a Dleaguer as a back up C, Howard isn't exactly immune to foul trouble. Yeah, they added shooters, but they had plenty of shooters as it was. And what happens with Nelson now? Orl was at their best when he was on, now rather then sharing the ball with just Carter he has to share with Arenas AND Hedo and get JRich shots. I dont see this working out for them at all.

Wiz make out like bandits! They get rid of a player they desperately wanted gone. Now can continue building around Wall without any distractions. And not only that, they somehow manage to save money getting rid of that horrendous contract of his. Yeah they get Lewis, but again, 2 years 40 MILLION less!n Amazing deal for them.

Suns. Almost wanna say who cares. **** it, who cares.

Tree Rollins · 12-18-10, 03:00 PM

Originally posted by Pauulzcappin

Don't see Hedo starting at SF. Nelson, Arenas, Richardson, Hedo/Bass, Howard looks better to me.

I see what you're thinking. Except for starting Hedo at 4. I don't see them doing that at all. That would kill them on the boards and interior D. even if you do have Howard.

demens · 12-18-10, 03:02 PM

Originally posted by Tree Rollins

Hey demens, shouldn't that be Earl 'Clark' isntead of Earl 'Barron'

Brain fart, my bad.

Damn, whos the backup C in Orlando now? a 6'8 Brandon Bass. Wtf are they thinking?

Tree Rollins · 12-18-10, 03:05 PM

Demens, they did make the finals 2years ago, but that was a different lineup. They have NO chance of winning with Vince as their #1 perimeter scoring option in crunch time. He just can't do it.
Those top 4 teams in the east are close, and you need a guy who can get you a big bucket in a close game and is capable of taking over late. Vince is afraid of the big moment, he's not that guy.

kmoney · 12-18-10, 03:05 PM

great moves imo, now I know why Arenas hasn't been taking anything to the hole lately, he knew he was being traded. Can't believe the wizards are giving him up for only lewis

demens · 12-18-10, 03:05 PM

Originally posted by Tree Rollins

I see what you're thinking. Except for starting Hedo at 4. I don't see them doing that at all. That would kill them on the boards and interior D. even if you do have Howard.

They were fine when he started going to the finals. And Lewis was starting on and off at PF anyway.

That team is lost however. Too bad. I saw them as the best in the East still.

Tree Rollins · 12-18-10, 03:09 PM

Originally posted by demens

They were fine when he started going to the finals. And Lewis was starting on and off at PF anyway. That team is lost however. Too bad. I saw them as the best in the East still.

Yeah but Lewis played 4, not Hedo.

Pauulzcappin · 12-18-10, 03:09 PM

Originally posted by Tree Rollins

I see what you're thinking. Except for starting Hedo at 4. I don't see them doing that at all. That would kill them on the boards and interior D. even if you do have Howard.

I just think Hedo is too slow to start at SF now, he is a defensive liability wherever he starts though, don't see him in the starting 5.

demens · 12-18-10, 03:09 PM

Originally posted by Tree Rollins

Demens, they did make the finals 2years ago, but that was a different lineup. They have NO chance of winning with Vince as their #1 perimeter scoring option in crunch time. He just can't do it.
Those top 4 teams in the east are close, and you need a guy who can get you a big bucket in a close game and is capable of taking over late. Vince is afraid of the big moment, he's not that guy.

I dont see Hedo or Arenas doing any better.

The biggest edge they had over the Heat was Nelson (yes Howard, talking about crunch time). I dont see all these players sharing the ball well and not only that, they just aren't as good as their names.

great moves imo, now I know why Arenas hasn't been taking anything to the hole lately, he knew he was being traded. Can't believe the wizards are giving him up for only lewis

I'm not the only one that sees this. Arenas is not taking the ball to the hole because he is not capable of doing this, not because Nostradamus told him he'd get traded. Forgot what injury he had, knee was it? Something leg related, and he is just not the same player after it period.

Pauulzcappin · 12-18-10, 03:10 PM

And I agree with Rolling here. When they were desperate for a clutch shot last year Carter couldn't connect. Even FT wise.

demens · 12-18-10, 03:11 PM

Originally posted by Tree Rollins

Yeah but Lewis played 4, not Hedo.

You sure about that. Those 2 were interchangeable from what i remember. Its not like Lewis is any better rebounding or defending the 4 then Hedo.

kmoney · 12-18-10, 03:12 PM

no he had a stretch of games where he was being aggressive. but the last week he stopped now and I now I know why. you're wrong, I have seen every wizard game this season

Tree Rollins · 12-18-10, 03:12 PM

Originally posted by Pauulzcappin

I just think Hedo is too slow to start at SF now, he is a defensive liability wherever he starts though, don't see him in the starting 5.

When i think about it, they can get away with starting Arenas at 2 and Rich at 3 against most teams. Along with Bass at 4. I'm starting to think it will be Nelson, Arenas, Rich, Bass, Howard. Hedo 6th man.