ever laid more than -700 on a single wager?

[20Four7]

It's sad that our education standards have fallen this low.

You mean there are standards? I thought we got rid of them when we instituted the no fail policy.

[zerocage]

You win 85 percent of the time? Cool. The system isn't for everyone. Winning 85 percent of the time at anything will make you rich. Dis my math skills all you want . No big deal . I'm interested in the system just because I don't do things your way or his way doesn't make me an idiot.

[mofome]

Here's a hint: winning 85% of the time at -900 is a -ev bet. Basic arithmetic is your friend.

As for the OP, of course I've laid more than -700, for the reasons Ganchrow laid out.

why be an ass at every opportunity? some people dont pick up things as quickly, some people haven't been exposed to certain things, some people look at different things than others. why do you feel the need to speak down to people on here so often? is it that difficult to just take part in a normal thread, or are mortals too ignorant for you to offer any respect. for someone that could help as much as you could, you sure seem to strive for the opposite. lets try to make a stranger feel like an idiot for no reason. productive way to spend some time.

[mofome]

You win 85 percent of the time? Cool. The system isn't for everyone. Winning 85 percent of the time at anything will make you rich. Dis my math skills all you want . No big deal . I'm interested in the system just because I don't do things your way or his way doesn't make me an idiot.

obviously not. pay no mind to it.

[zerocage]

obviously not. pay no mind to it.

Its whatever makes people feel good, sometimes its a blow job - other times its feeling superior ! peace

[donjuan]

You win 85 percent of the time? Cool. The system isn't for everyone. Winning 85 percent of the time at anything will make you rich. Dis my math skills all you want . No big deal . I'm interested in the system just because I don't do things your way or his way doesn't make me an idiot.

Wow. Just wow.

[mofome]

Its whatever makes people feel good, sometimes its a blow job - other times its feeling superior ! peace

seems as if you've been capping your games well. keep asking questions, posting your picks, and ignoring the brains that juss cant seem to git along wit us comoln folk.

[donjuan]

lets try to make a stranger feel like an idiot for no reason.

No, it's more like let's make an adult feel stupid for not understanding a concept that most 3rd graders understand.

[zerocage]

seems as if you've been capping your games well. keep asking questions, posting your picks, and ignoring the brains that juss cant seem to git along wit us comoln folk.

I have an edge on my sword , so thus I must swing it.

[mofome]

No, it's more like let's make an adult feel stupid for not understanding a concept that most 3rd graders understand.

why? what does that accomplish? how does that improve your day or anyone elses?

[zerocage]

No, it's more like let's make an adult feel stupid for not understanding a concept that most 3rd graders understand.

What concept is that? You are not to the point. You are saying you can hit 85 percent, I'm interested in that. What am I not understanding ? You're better than me? That's cool . Really don't care. If you want to discuss your methods , that's cool too.

[zerocage]

why? what does that accomplish? how does that improve your day or anyone elses?

He is going to have to try harder than that.

[durito]

You win 85 percent of the time? Cool. The system isn't for everyone. Winning 85 percent of the time at anything will make you rich. Dis my math skills all you want . No big deal . I'm interested in the system just because I don't do things your way or his way doesn't make me an idiot.

No, it won't.


This isn't complex math people, it's elementary school level.

Your break even point at -900 odds is 900/1000 = 90%. If you have a bet that you think wins 85% of the time (assuming you are in fact correct), laying -900 is a losing proposition.

Your break even point at -700 odds is 700/800 = 87.5%.

[donjuan]

why? what does that accomplish? how does that improve your day or anyone elses?

Hopefully it improves society.

What concept is that? You are not to the point. You are saying you can hit 85 percent, I'm interested in that. What am I not understanding ? You're better than me? That's cool . Really don't care. If you want to discuss your methods , that's cool too.

Um, I'm not saying I can "hit 85%". I'm saying if you are at 85% on -900 wagers you should probably smash in your computer screen and call it a day.

[zerocage]

Even I can do that math. The key word is "think" . Nothing is solid 85 percent hitting when predicting future events.

[zerocage]

Hopefully it improves society.



Um, I'm not saying I can "hit 85%". I'm saying if you are at 85% on -900 wagers you should probably smash in your computer screen and call it a day.

Ok . 85 percent on any type of system would let you retire rich.

[durito]

Even I can do that math. The key word is "think" . Nothing is solid 85 percent hitting when predicting future events.

How do you figure?

How often to you think 35pt favorite NCAA basketball teams win straight up.


Calculating your exact odds of winning is obviously a completely different discussion -- nevertheless, that's still an issue at -500, -110, or +300

[Crayzee]

i KNEW vince gill was gonna win the country grammy but i couldnt lay the -410

[donjuan]

Nothing is solid 85 percent hitting when predicting future events.

Then you should probably just try betting any 2 way out come you can find at +566.67 or greater and see how that goes until your bankroll hits zero.

[donjuan]

85 percent on any type of system would let you retire rich.

85% at -110 lines, yes. 85% at -900, no.

[zerocage]

Then you should probably just try betting any 2 way out come you can find at +566.67 or greater and see how that goes until your bankroll hits zero.

Why in the hell would I do that? I don't know the exact math but I know a +566.67 isn't going to hit very often . Ive hit only one +600 dog in my lifetime and that was the only time I played one that high.

[donjuan]

If nothing can be greater than 85%, then you will be a long term winner betting any 2 way outcome line at +566.67 or greater long term. If you don't, then I think you realize how inherently stupid your previous statement was.

[zerocage]

If nothing can be greater than 85%, then you will be a long term winner betting any 2 way outcome line at +566.67 or greater long term. If you don't, then I think you realize how inherently stupid your previous statement was.

What statement is stupid? Nothing greater than 85 percent? I said any SYSTEM that could go 85 percent. Meaning if there WAS a system that could do that. I didn't say there was one. Take things however you want. You can be smarter if it makes you feel better. I'm sure you're a nice guy. I'm sure we are taking what each other says wrong.

[zerocage]

If nothing can be greater than 85%, then you will be a long term winner betting any 2 way outcome line at +566.67 or greater long term. If you don't, then I think you realize how inherently stupid your previous statement was.

Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD), is a personality disorder defined Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM IV-R), the diagnostic classification system used in the United States, as "a pervasive pattern of grandiosity, need for admiration, and a lack of empathy."[1]

[donjuan]

What statement is stupid? Nothing greater than 85 percent? I said any SYSTEM that could go 85 percent. Meaning if there WAS a system that could do that. I didn't say there was one. Take things however you want. You can be smarter if it makes you feel better. I'm sure you're a nice guy. I'm sure we are taking what each other says wrong.

No, I'm pretty sure you just don't understand basic arithmetic and how that would apply to breakeven percentages in sports betting.

[zerocage]

I know what I have to do to win and break even. I don't know what you have to do.

[donjuan]

Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD), is a personality disorder defined Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM IV-R), the diagnostic classification system used in the United States, as "a pervasive pattern of grandiosity, need for admiration, and a lack of empathy."[1]

That's cute. I can do that too:

Mental retardation is a term for a pattern of persistently slow learning of basic motor and language skills ("milestones") during childhood, and a significantly below-normal global intellectual capacity as an adult. One common criterion for diagnosis of mental retardation is a tested intelligence quotient (IQ) of 70 or below and deficits in adaptive functioning.

[zerocage]

I wasn't been cute, you are being a dick . Can't have a regular conversation about gambling.

[zerocage]

That's cute. I can do that too:

Mental retardation is a term for a pattern of persistently slow learning of basic motor and language skills ("milestones") during childhood, and a significantly below-normal global intellectual capacity as an adult. One common criterion for diagnosis of mental retardation is a tested intelligence quotient (IQ) of 70 or below and deficits in adaptive functioning.

Shit. Now I know what's holding me back!

[donjuan]

I wasn't been cute, you are being a dick . Can't have a regular conversation about gambling.

It's hard to have one when the other party doesn't understand that hitting 85% on -900 wagers is -ev.

[zerocage]

It's hard to have one when the other party doesn't understand that hitting 85% on -900 wagers is -ev.

Get over yourself .

[HedgeHog]

Zero:

If you can hit 90% winners on -700 wagers, why wouldn't you? Sure a loss sets you back 7 units. But for every loss, there are 9 1-unit wins, a net gain of 2 units for every 10 plays.

[zerocage]

Zero:

If you can hit 90% winners on -700 wagers, why wouldn't you? Sure a loss sets you back 7 units. But for every loss, there are 9 1-unit wins, a net gain of 2 units for every 10 plays.

You can hit 90 percent?

[HedgeHog]

This is just an example. At -700, you need to win 87.5% just to break even. If someone like Ganch has handicapped this game at say -900, then this is a +Ev bet and the -700 price shouldn't scare you away. If this situation exists, the play should be made.

[icemantbi]

Never. Why risk $700 to win a measly $100? I saw alot of people risking -400 on the Pats for the SB. We saw how that turned out. Just this weekend in soccer, Man United lost as a -450 favourite to Man City, a +1050 Dog.

No game is a lock, so you have to find value in lines. You will be much better off if you can find value.

just my 2c.