probability question...first correct answer gets 5 pts

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  • pico
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    • 04-05-07
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    probability question...first correct answer gets 5 pts
    there is a game that i played last night. there are 9 identical cards. 4 of them has a heinekin picture in the back, the remaining 5 cards has nothing. you get to pick 4 cards at random. and the prizes are:

    no beer card = one heinekin coaster
    1 beer card = one pint of beer plus a pack of coasters
    2 beer cards = 3 pints of beer
    3 beer cards = 5 pints of beer
    4 beer cards = 5 pints of beer plus a mini heinekin refrigerator

    question is, what are the probability of getting no beer card, 1 beer card, 2 beer cards, 3 beer cards, and 4 beer cards.

    the odds for 4 beer cards is 1/126, which is about 0.8%
  • Shortstop
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    • 01-02-09
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    Picochalk
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    • RonPaul2008
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      • 06-08-07
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      #3
      LOL somebody wants their homework done for them
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      • Lazyboy311
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        • 05-04-10
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        #4
        I'll take it:

        All conditional probability, individual chance % listed in yes/yes/...no format. Multiplied by number of possible sequences within each outcome. All numbers rounded and results in a .2% rounding error.

        0 beer card: .555 x .5 x .428 x .33 = .0395 x 1 = .040 = 4%
        1 beer card: .444 x .625 x .571 x .5 = .0792 x 4 = .32 = 32%
        2 beer cards: .444 x .375 x .714 x .666 = .0784 x 6 = .47 = 47%
        3 beer cards: .444 x .375 x .286 x .833 = .039 x 4 = .16 = 16%
        4 beer cards: .444 x .375 x .285 x .166 = .0079 x 1 = .008 = 0.8 %
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        • THEGREAT30
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          • 10-04-08
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          #5
          5 points huh
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          • Ganchrow
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            • 08-28-05
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            #6
            Originally posted by Lazyboy311
            I'll take it:

            All conditional probability, individual chance % listed in yes/yes/...no format. Multiplied by number of possible sequences within each outcome. All numbers rounded and results in a .2% rounding error.

            0 beer card: .555 x .5 x .428 x .33 = .0395 x 1 = .040 = 4%
            1 beer card: .444 x .625 x .571 x .5 = .0792 x 4 = .32 = 32%
            2 beer cards: .444 x .375 x .714 x .666 = .0784 x 6 = .47 = 47%
            3 beer cards: .444 x .375 x .286 x .833 = .039 x 4 = .16 = 16%
            4 beer cards: .444 x .375 x .285 x .166 = .0079 x 1 = .008 = 0.8 %
            Yep. Well done.

            For those still a bit quizzical as to how such an answer might be quickly obtained in general:

            Underlying this problem is the Hypergeometric distribution. In Excel this is represented by the =HYPGEOMDIST() function.
            0 cards => =HYPGEOMDIST(0,4,4,9) = 5 126 ≈ 3.97%
            1 cards => =HYPGEOMDIST(1,4,4,9) = 40 126 ≈ 31.75%
            2 cards => =HYPGEOMDIST(2,4,4,9) = 60 126 ≈ 47.62%
            3 cards => =HYPGEOMDIST(3,4,4,9) = 20 126 ≈ 15.87%
            4 cards => =HYPGEOMDIST(4,4,4,9) = 1 126 ≈ 0.79%

            In general, the probability of selecting exactly w winners out of n draws without replacement given an N sized population consisting of W winning draws (where 0≤w≤W≤N and 0≤w≤n≤N) is Excel given in Excel by:
            = HYPGEOMDIST(w,n,W,N)

            Using combinatorials this may be equivalently expressed as:
            = combin(W, w) * combin(N-W, n-w) / combin(N,n)
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