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  • SCRAGGS
    SBR MVP
    • 05-21-09
    • 1969

    #36
    listen kid this is how the real world works, beacuse it is not legal you don't get post up players
    only credit players. Locals want credit players, they drop more cash betting on credit then they would posting up.

    They make so much money on people over extending themselves the a few stiffs in the bunch makes no difference.
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    • fightingwarrior
      Restricted User
      • 05-06-10
      • 7818

      #37
      Have your dream poker house and run a book maker room .you dont have to worry about the police breaking in you have to worry about yourself with the skeet masks.it happens all day and night in miami


      did you not read the post where biggie said 9 mm to his head for 130.00 and whatever else was on the table.its easy money and people who think they can run a poker room cant.stick to online gambling son that is as far as poker house youll get.
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      • fightingwarrior
        Restricted User
        • 05-06-10
        • 7818

        #38
        Bookmaker is to much problems if you lose you pay up i like gambling if i win i get paid by dsi or mr greeek.poker is different i play in some poker houses small buy ins 30.00 max and stuff but there tournys not cash games

        house cash games is to much heat i did it one time and you see some tweaker looking at the window every 5 minutes saying there coming.
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        • SCRAGGS
          SBR MVP
          • 05-21-09
          • 1969

          #39
          Originally posted by LostBankroll
          Who says my dream poker house would be my ACUTAL house? And by post up I dont mean "give me $200 if you want to start playing" I mean if you want Saints -5 then you pay me up front, if Saints cover you come back and get the money you bet PLUS the winnings. Makes things much more simpler. Plus once in the Poker house they would gamble their winnings at my tables as I rake in more money. You guys gotta think outside the fukin box. Just because you did this doesnt mean there arent Newer Better ideas out there.

          Your lack of experience shows pal, gamblers in general put in a lot action
          on Sat and Sun During foots, its just the way we are. I myself had about
          3 dimes in total action over the weekend. I am not going to post up to a local
          for that acton, NO WAY. He extends me credit I bet over my head and win I lose
          I will pay him much more they I would have if I had posted up.
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          • thebestthereis
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 03-01-09
            • 11459

            #40
            i robbed a bank once, 100% profit
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            • LostBankroll
              Restricted User
              • 02-10-10
              • 4538

              #41
              NO, if you dont have any money then you shouldnt be gambling to begin with. So nobody should be betting on credit. This is dumb IMO. If the player on credit wins then im out more cash because he didnt put up shit to begin with plus he gets say $500 in credit, and if he loses then i get a bigger score $500 BUT what are the chances he will pay? Sure I will have my henchmen but is $500 really worth all the hassel that the player will put me through? He might pay up, but stil Id rather have him place a bet,pay and collect afterwards if he wins. Makes perfect sence to me. Plus this will be in a poker environment so they will be sure to have money to wager with. If I was a bar bookie then I could see how this could be a problem but being in MY spot with MY rules means that this is the way shit flies around here and if you think my rules are unfair then try your luck on MY poker tables where you have an even smaller chance of winning.
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              • LostBankroll
                Restricted User
                • 02-10-10
                • 4538

                #42
                Originally posted by SCRAGGS
                Your lack of experience shows pal, gamblers in general put in a lot action
                on Sat and Sun During foots, its just the way we are. I myself had about
                3 dimes in total action over the weekend. I am not going to post up to a local
                for that acton, NO WAY. He extends me credit I bet over my head and win I lose
                I will pay him much more they I would have if I had posted up.

                But not everybody is like you, not everybody betting on credit will pay up or might but it will be a pain in the ass if they decide to take thier time. Ofcourse I will have to show some type of force, but doing this the way I said would save everybody drama.
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                • Killer_Demo
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 06-15-08
                  • 8409

                  #43
                  if you got a thing for violence go for it
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                  • SCRAGGS
                    SBR MVP
                    • 05-21-09
                    • 1969

                    #44
                    you are a kid, you will learn. this is how it is done pal. If a player deals with a local he
                    is a credit player, post up players go to vegas or have a sportsbook.

                    anyone on this board EVER posted up to a local?

                    I see you have big dreams, missguided as they may be, you will never make a nickle
                    being a local and requiring players to post up.

                    jj help this fukin kid out will ya
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                    • ngates815
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 12-01-09
                      • 13845

                      #45
                      Originally posted by SCRAGGS
                      you are a kid, you will learn. this is how it is done pal. If a player deals with a local he
                      is a credit player, post up players go to vegas or have a sportsbook.

                      anyone on this board EVER posted up to a local?

                      I see you have big dreams, missguided as they may be, you will never make a nickle
                      being a local and requiring players to post up.

                      jj help this fukin kid out will ya


                      When I first started with my Local, I asked him if he wanted 500 for good faith, he said no.
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                      • SCRAGGS
                        SBR MVP
                        • 05-21-09
                        • 1969

                        #46
                        Originally posted by ngates815
                        When I first started with my Local, I asked him if he wanted 500 for good faith, he said no.



                        Yes, and why does he not want your money? cause he will get more over the long
                        run by extending you credit
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                        • Masu485
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 08-14-08
                          • 7700

                          #47
                          the only reason it's illegal is because you will make tons of money from it.
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                          • LostBankroll
                            Restricted User
                            • 02-10-10
                            • 4538

                            #48
                            Not every gambler can go to vegas for say a $100 wager, not every gambler has an offshore account. To those who do then my services wouldnt be right for them. Plus Poker would be my main money getter. Sports would just be another branch in my business. My business model isnt flawwed. The only thing that you seem to be stuck on is that player would like my method. You guys wouldnt do business with me but you tell me if getting your money the same or next day is a problem for you? getting a bet in whenever you want. Decent odds i wouldnt fuk the customer... Think outside the box.
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                            • LostBankroll
                              Restricted User
                              • 02-10-10
                              • 4538

                              #49
                              More money is made by credit I understand that, but I would be exposed for more money in a short time if I extend credit. Maybe credit wouldnt be a bad idea to the players I can trust, but as a startup, i like the business model. I will have my own Poker Spot by Christmas of this year... I extend everyone the invitation if you ever want to play some cards and place a bet if you ever happen to find youself in DC.
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                              • opie1988
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 09-12-10
                                • 23429

                                #50
                                Lost Bankroll-

                                Your idea seems good....its just not going to be as smooth as you hope. You have to network to get a decent game going, and this is the only way to be successful. The problems really start once your joint becomes successful. Like anything else, people get jealous of others success, and they will start bitching. To the cops, sheriff dept, local judge, whatever. Then one of these gets a hard-on to take an "illegal gambling ring" down, no matter how small it may be. While gambling may be a minor pinch, you get caught holding people's money...you're guaranteed to have extortion, money laundering, or worst case...loan sharking added on your case. One of those gets in the indictment, and the IRS will definitely join in the fun to make sure you get it cleanly broken off in you. Trust me....its not as glamorous as it seems. From the look of your spelling....you need to focus on continuing your education, and not get in way over your head entrepreneur wise!

                                Best-

                                Opie1988
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                                • SCRAGGS
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 05-21-09
                                  • 1969

                                  #51


                                  I am going to guess under you business model you will have 3 post up players.
                                  your brother, your friend and some guy who wants to suck you cok.

                                  jj get this kid in under you wing in a hurry.
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                                  • brxbmbers42
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 07-26-10
                                    • 4312

                                    #52
                                    i booked bets for three months about 6 yrs ago. i had one customer. former div 3 hockey player. guy only bet nhl. cleaned me the fukk out. won like 85 percent of his plays for three months.
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                                    • SCRAGGS
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 05-21-09
                                      • 1969

                                      #53
                                      was it on the totals?
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                                      • THE PROFIT
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 11-27-09
                                        • 17701

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by SCRAGGS
                                        you are a kid, you will learn. this is how it is done pal. If a player deals with a local he
                                        is a credit player, post up players go to vegas or have a sportsbook.

                                        anyone on this board EVER posted up to a local?

                                        I see you have big dreams, missguided as they may be, you will never make a nickle
                                        being a local and requiring players to post up.

                                        jj help this fukin kid out will ya
                                        LostBank just doesnt understand how bookmaking works. Hes talkin more about running a poker room it sounds like. He just doesnt get it & thats fine, but you dont post up to a local. Everything you have said is exactly right. Once a local gets in your pocket a few times so what if you stiff him, he has made money, you are done, & will never bet with another local within 500 miles, its a fraternity! now if you stiff him for a large amount, theres ways of getting his money, and I got very creative. I had very few even attempt to try & stiff me, but most wont even think about it, thats why you get to know them a little.
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                                        • THE PROFIT
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 11-27-09
                                          • 17701

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by brxbmbers42
                                          i booked bets for three months about 6 yrs ago. i had one customer. former div 3 hockey player. guy only bet nhl. cleaned me the fukk out. won like 85 percent of his plays for three months.
                                          thats not called booking bets, thats called gambling with a professional hockey player
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                                          • LostBankroll
                                            Restricted User
                                            • 02-10-10
                                            • 4538

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by brxbmbers42
                                            i booked bets for three months about 6 yrs ago. i had one customer. former div 3 hockey player. guy only bet nhl. cleaned me the fukk out. won like 85 percent of his plays for three months.

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                                            • SCRAGGS
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 05-21-09
                                              • 1969

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by THE PROFIT
                                              LostBank just doesnt understand how bookmaking works. Hes talkin more about running a poker room it sounds like. He just doesnt get it & thats fine, but you dont post up to a local. Everything you have said is exactly right. Once a local gets in your pocket a few times so what if you stiff him, he has made money, you are done, & will never bet with another local within 500 miles, its a fraternity! now if you stiff him for a large amount, theres ways of getting his money, and I got very creative. I had very few even attempt to try & stiff me, but most wont even think about it, thats why you get to know them a little.


                                              Lostbank can learn a lot from the profit.
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                                              • itchypickle
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 11-05-09
                                                • 21452

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by jjgold
                                                Most get caught
                                                Secondly hard to collect off losers

                                                Pass
                                                Be smart and start and escrow account...that way the money is there ahead of time..otherwise...no action! No use in dealing with deadbeats anyhow. But I digress....I'll stick to more profitable ventures.
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                                                • LostBankroll
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 02-10-10
                                                  • 4538

                                                  #59
                                                  Profit, when you began what was your credit line? Im thinking $500 a week would be a decent place to start for me if I were to accept crdit players?
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                                                  • brxbmbers42
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 07-26-10
                                                    • 4312

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by SCRAGGS
                                                    was it on the totals?
                                                    no totals. he was playing sides.
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                                                    • opie1988
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 09-12-10
                                                      • 23429

                                                      #61
                                                      ....and as far as you having your "henchmen" to show some force, get serious. This is the real world...not an episode of Sopranos. If you think you can go around bustin' kneecaps to collect the $50.00 some jerkoff owes you....you're living in a fantasy. Your business model isn't only flawed, its completely broken. You need to focus on service, What can you do for the customer to make them feel good about spending their money? This is the only way you can run any successful business.
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                                                      • SCRAGGS
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 05-21-09
                                                        • 1969

                                                        #62
                                                        a dime at least, anyone can come up with a dime if they had too
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                                                        • SCRAGGS
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 05-21-09
                                                          • 1969

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by opie1988
                                                          ....and as far as you having your "henchmen" to show some force, get serious. This is the real world...not an episode of Sopranos. If you think you can go around bustin' kneecaps to collect the $50.00 some jerkoff owes you....you're living in a fantasy. Your business model isn't only flawed, its completely broken. You need to focus on service, What can you do for the customer to make them feel good about spending their money? This is the only way you can run any successful business.


                                                          Bingo we have a Bingo.
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                                                          • LostBankroll
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 02-10-10
                                                            • 4538

                                                            #64
                                                            Read my post you idiot, I clearly state that me doing something to them over $500 would be a WASTE. so why come in here spreading bullshit about $50??? COme on get real. And $1000 would be a nice score in a week if he losses it all i guess. What do you think on limits? $100-$200???
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                                                            • iceminers26
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 10-13-08
                                                              • 15600

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by LostBankroll
                                                              Profit, when you began what was your credit line? Im thinking $500 a week would be a decent place to start for me if I were to accept crdit players?
                                                              Usually start out with a $200/$2k per week and work your way up after the trust builds to say $500/$5k and up to $1000/$10k, that's the highest account I have ever gone.
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                                                              • LostBankroll
                                                                Restricted User
                                                                • 02-10-10
                                                                • 4538

                                                                #66
                                                                Apreciate all the info in here. I gues a credit line to players wouldnt be the end of the world. Hopefully I can get this money together by Christmas so I can begin being a book instead of losing to him.
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                                                                • biggie12
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 12-30-05
                                                                  • 13794

                                                                  #67
                                                                  who is that in ur avatar that pciture is making me sick. lol
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                                                                  • SCRAGGS
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 05-21-09
                                                                    • 1969

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by biggie12
                                                                    who is that in ur avatar that pciture is making me sick. lol

                                                                    how about mine
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                                                                    • biggie12
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 12-30-05
                                                                      • 13794

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by SCRAGGS
                                                                      how about mine
                                                                      much more appealing.
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                                                                      • SCRAGGS
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 05-21-09
                                                                        • 1969

                                                                        #70
                                                                        biggie is no faaaaaag
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