Ever meet a guy from UK who was not a drunk?
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So by the same token you should be infinitely grateful to the French for helping us out when gaining independence?Comment -
Originally posted by donjuan
I certainly wouldn't boo during a French national anthem.Comment -
This seems to have been ignored. But whilst I don't agree with booing the US anthem, there are a lot of misconceptions in this thread.Originally posted by Jamie_UK
With the Australians, I have been to Ashes matches in both societies, and there is a very good natured relationship. The Aussies sing, we sing, and everyone goes for a beer after the game.
The Americans don't have the same relationship with their sports. You'll hear singing at just about every sport in England, and several in Australia. I've been to see football and baseball games in the US, and I found the atmosphere totally lacking at both, compared to what I experienced at White Hart Lane on a weekly basis.
Frankly, a large part of the reason a lot of people here go to matches is for the atmosphere, and to sing, cheer and support their team. Most of them aren't drunk. I couldn't see myself going to any US Sport more than once in a blue moon.Comment -
This may be true of professional sports but college sports certainly fill that void here. While I haven't been to any soccer matches in the UK, I have been to a Lions test match in Auckland sitting in the middle of all the British and Irish singing Fields of Athenry and Swing Low and the atmosphere was very good. However, most college football and basketball games will be a similar experience, particularly in the student sections.This seems to have been ignored. But whilst I don't agree with booing the US anthem, there are a lot of misconceptions in this thread.
With the Australians, I have been to Ashes matches in both societies, and there is a very good natured relationship. The Aussies sing, we sing, and everyone goes for a beer after the game.
The Americans don't have the same relationship with their sports. You'll hear singing at just about every sport in England, and several in Australia. I've been to see football and baseball games in the US, and I found the atmosphere totally lacking at both, compared to what I experienced at White Hart Lane on a weekly basis.
Frankly, a large part of the reason a lot of people here go to matches is for the atmosphere, and to sing, cheer and support their team. Most of them aren't drunk. I couldn't see myself going to any US Sport more than once in a blue moon.Comment -
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And your point is what? That English fans can sing and chant?Comment -
No, just to point out the atmosphere in those stadiums (well the last one was a bar, but it was a fond memory as I was there
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If you watch a Premier League game on TV you can hear the opposing fans creating an atmosphere, I've watched quite a few college games even and seen nothing similar.Comment -
Probably because there aren't as many away fans generally. However if you watch rivalry games, you'll definitely hear and see this. Also, distances between cities/colleges are much greater in the US than in England. Look at University of Colorado, for example. The closest school in CU's conference is Nebraska, located 510 miles away. To get from Plymouth to Newcastle, it's not even 450 miles.Comment -
Yup that's a fair point. Another is there simply isn't the long history. Spurs are celebrating their 125th anniversary this year. Our rivalry with Arsenal goes back to 1887.Originally posted by donjuan
I don't know for sure how far back the oldest rivalry in US sports goes, but I'd expect much less than that.Comment -
Your point stands for US professional sports (baseball excepted) but not for college ones. Cal-Stanford goes back to 1892 and supposedly it's the 10th longest rivalry in college football. This history (and the atmosphere at the games) is part of why many Americans prefer college sports to professional ones, despite the games being of a lower quality (although often more exciting).Comment -
Not sure how the original topic got to this, but yes, European fans are in general more vocal. However, does that necessarily make them better fans? Does the fact signing is more prevalent in European football matches than it is in the states mean European fans are more passionate? You can't tell me that the atmosphere for a Yankees/Red Sox game doesn't rival that of, say, Man U v. Chelsea. They probably differ, but both are great in their own way.Comment -
I've been to Angels/Dodgers but not Yankees/Red Sox, so I can't say really.
I like Baseball and US Football, and can quite happily watch both on TV, but I would go and watch a soccer match at any level in England, or Denmark, or most European countries for that matter (and regularly do when I travel around) because it's an enjoyable evening/afternoon by virtue of the atmosphere, but I've never got the same feeling at a US Sports stadium.Comment -
Santo,
Go to a Michigan-Ohio State football game. You might change your mind. Same goes for Duke-North Carolina basketball, although from my experience Poms seem to hate basketball.Comment -
Btw, Angels-Dodgers is a joke with no history. And LA fans are known for being the worst in the country.Comment -
What I find amazing when I watch American sports is people wandering around clutching stacks of hot dogs and other hand held foods, its like an excuse to eat rather than support your team.
Americans lack passion when it comes to sports, they dont have the mind set to understand why people act like the Hatton supporters .
Here are some typical Yank fans. Embarrassing really.
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and in contrast some real fans
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Bumpety bump for BB as I'm sure he wants to discuss the yanks booing the canadian anthem in the NHL playoffs.Originally posted by BigBollocksVery disappointing behavior by the Brits at the Mayweather-Hatton fight. They booed throughout the entire US anthem, and were completely classless after Hatton went down for the count. Even Hatton himself couldn't have been a bigger jerk after the fight. While Mayweather was praising Hatton and his UK contingent post-fight, Hatton spent the whole press conference talking about how Mayweather just got lucky, played tickle wars on the inside, and wasn't really that strong of a puncher. I heard the Brits raised hell and committed a bunch of assaults in Vegas last night also. Completely disappointing, classless, and lowlife thug behavior from the British contingency for this big occasion...
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There are drunk asshole fans at every sporting event. That night it just so happened that the overwhelming majority were Brits disrespecting our national anthem, presumably just being drunk assholes and not actually otherwise scumbags. However to suggest that doing such is a display of passion is just crazy, it's a display of stupidity and too much alcohol.Comment -
Jamie I was unable to find a thing about any NHL fans in Colorado disrespecting Canada's anthem in any way. I think you made that one up.
Here's one that's not made up and will make a lot of people on here proud, however. Montreal (which is where I spent some time growing up) is a French speaking city that booed the US anthem unbelievably loud twice over the course of a weekend (so much so that it got press on all the US news stations). The next week they went to Boston (generally perceived to be one of the ruder US cities mind you), and the crowd stood up and cheered throughout the entire song in response. Even the CBC announcers made special mention of the class shown. Here's the YouTube link below...
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Hopefully you're learning how to win and be a class act on here, and hopefully this will free up this issue so that you can now disclose your educational background in my other thread....
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Can anyone imagine the state this thread would be in if Bateman was around.
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yes, vile behaviour from USA fans , probably where the Hatton fans learned it from in the first place, just goes to show if you (USA) disrespect others anthems, somebody bigger and nastier will do the same to youOriginally posted by SantoComment
