ARTICLE: Credit Cards Still Accepted For Online Gambling

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  • bigboydan
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 08-10-05
    • 55420

    #1
    ARTICLE: Credit Cards Still Accepted For Online Gambling
    It's this type of reporting that doesn't help matters for us gamblers.


    Credit Cards Still Accepted For Online Gambling

    (CBS4) DENVER Lawmakers have gone to great lengths to try to stop gambling on the Internet. One of the most effective methods has been banning the use of American issued credit cards, but Internet casinos based outside the U.S. are getting around those laws. A CBS4 investigation reveals how gamblers are still able to place their bets.

    CBS4's Rick Sallinger started by going to an online gambling Web site. It may look like a game, but it's serious business.

    CBS4 went into the site called "Full Tilt Poker." $42,000 was on just one table Sallinger viewed. Online gambling was a $15 billion a year business until Congress put a major dent in it. It created new laws and enforced existing ones to make it illegal to use U.S. credit cards to gamble online.

    One Colorado player CBS4 spoke with asked that we not use his name since gambling online is illegal. Despite the credit card ban, he has been able to use his **** card to place bets on "Full Tilt Poker." What he discovered is the bets have been showing up on his Washington Mutual **** bill under the names of different businesses.

    He told CBS4, "I had made several deposits on several different days to the poker room, but none of them were listed as 'Full Tilt Poker.' They were listed as different companies I had never heard of."

    The charges appear under a variety of obscure names on his monthly credit card bill disguised by a middle man so as not to reflect that they involved Internet gambling.

    When asked if it appears they are trying to circumvent the law, IRS criminal division special agent John Harrison replayed, "They are, in a number of ways." He said this looks like laundering of credit card charges, something they've seen before.

    In Salt Lake City seven people and four companies are under indictment accused of setting up a scheme to misclassify credit card transactions in order to fool banks into processing internet gambling charges.

    "These charges do carry heavy penalties, they are serious crimes," said assistant U.S. Attorney Loren Washburn.

    The gambling sites are based outside of the U.S. They also have other ways to get around the U.S. credit card ban. One is by encouraging players to obtain Canadian or other non-American issued credit cards.

    CBS4 also found a website informing gamblers they can beat the ban by betting with prepaid phone cards from an Australian company.

    CBS4 asked IRS special agent Harrison, "Would it be illegal to buy a phone card and use that phone card to bet?"

    Harrison replied, "I think it would be."

    When the poker player from Colorado we observed tried to cash in his chips with "Full Tilt Poker" he was informed of delays.

    The player told CBS4, "They actually appeared to be asking for sympathy on my part in the delay because it was so hard to get around American law."

    Full Tilt Poker did not respond to our questions submitted by email.

    As loopholes are being closed, it appears more are being opened. Shutting down Internet gambling may a difficult hand to beat.
  • SBR Lou
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 08-02-07
    • 37863

    #2
    Full Tilt Poker did not respond to our questions submitted by email.
    Join the club. Might hear back in around 10 business days.
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    • tblues2005
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 07-30-06
      • 9235

      #3
      I knew that places would get around this law and sooner or later they will have to regulate it somehow and get tax revenue on this. It is just a matter of time but it will be after Bush gets out of office though.
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      • jon13009
        SBR MVP
        • 09-22-07
        • 1258

        #4
        If the US govt regulated, licensed and taxed on-line gambling from Vegas, they would rake in millions (perhaps billions) of dollars that are flowing overseas. Vegas wants it, Vegas is ready for it.

        A reliable, stable and competitive Vegas on-line book may even generate US dollars from overseas interests, and I would drop my offshore account in an instant if there was a book hosted by one of the better Vegas books.

        It still amazes me that The US government is telling its own citizens that it cannot participate in an activity that is, for the most part, internationally accepted and licensed and taxed in Great Britain.

        States use gambling to fund its budgets through the use of lotteries, slot machines, and horse racing. Bingo halls are in every corner of the US. Jai-alai and dog racing are still bet on in Florida (I think), Casinos operate in Vegas, AC, on various riverboats and numerous Indian properties. A variety of card rooms are available in various locations in California. The US allows sportsbooks to operate in Vegas. Thus, gambling is a part of the fabric of the United States, regardless of how evil Kyl and Frist portrays it to be.

        Reducing drug use, lowering murder rates, eliminating gang proliferation, stopping international terrorism, reducing taxes, ending the war in Iraq, and rounding up organized crime are some of the more important things the US Government should be determined to do, not trying to stop its citizens from placing a few bets (on behalf of the NFL, NBA and MLB) on the internet.

        I don't think England is going to shut down the Premiership or FIFA has suffered in its production of the UEFA leagues due to the proliferation of international on-line gambling.

        The problem in the US lies in the ability of lobbyists (fueled by the hundreds of million dollars provided by the NFL, NBA and MLB) to affect the legislation of idiotic laws because those politicians are looking out for their own best interests, regardless of their political affiliation, and are looking to pocket a few bucks down the line.
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        • robzilla
          SBR MVP
          • 10-25-07
          • 3556

          #5
          The US government is really dropping the ball on this one. The rest of the world is already viewing these fools in the US as old foolish idiots.

          Get ready for some hard times americans as businesses leave due to your failures. I love to look at those full American car dealerships around here... absolutely no one is buying anything american! Honda rules in Ontario.
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          • jjgold
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 07-20-05
            • 388179

            #6
            A few sites still take them
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            • louisvillekid
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 08-14-07
              • 9263

              #7
              Originally posted by robzilla
              Get ready for some hard times americans as businesses leave due to your failures. I love to look at those full American car dealerships around here... absolutely no one is buying anything american! Honda rules in Ontario.
              thats odd, cause Ford and General Motors keep posting profits from sales from overseas, its just here in the states that their profits are down.


              i agree with you jon13009, but it dosen't look good for the future right now.


              i like this from the article....
              He told CBS4, "I had made several deposits on several different days to the poker room, but none of them were listed as 'Full Tilt Poker.' They were listed as different companies I had never heard of."

              The charges appear under a variety of obscure names on his monthly credit card bill disguised by a middle man so as not to reflect that they involved Internet gambling.
              well Duh!!!
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              • paul Mordeeb
                SBR High Roller
                • 05-12-07
                • 220

                #8
                Is it me or is that artical written to put the worst light possible on Gambling online.

                I play at FullTilt and never thought of myself as using my " **** card to place bets on "Full Tilt Poker." Shouldn't you say use his **** to play cards at Fulltilt??? Placing bets sounds more illegal.
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