1. #1
    ChuckyTheGoat
    ChuckyTheGoat's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 04-04-11
    Posts: 31,511
    Betpoints: 24869

    NFL week 13 - Contrarian Angles

    NFL week 13- Contrarian Angles

    I'd lay out the parameters as such:
    1) Limit of one pick per week for a given poster.
    2) Totals are fair game.
    3) Quote a current price (vs -110 line or better). Can't just say "Team A".
    4) List a reason WHY you are Fading a team...and why you LIKE the team you're backing. Have to state why you think the play is counter-intuitive and therefore likely to represent value.
    5) Goal of the thread is to identify sides which the public likes. If the public is too high on said side, then contrarian side should have line value.

    That's how I'd describe it. In addition to fading a certain team, the side we're backing often feels like it's a tough bet to make.

  2. #2
    ChuckyTheGoat
    ChuckyTheGoat's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 04-04-11
    Posts: 31,511
    Betpoints: 24869

    wk01: 5-2 ATS
    wk02: 10-0 ATS
    wk03: 10-1 ATS.
    wk04: 10-8 ATS
    wk05: 7-6 ATS
    wk06: 8-4 ATS
    wk07: 7-8 ATS

    wk08: 9-8 ATS
    wk09: 1-5 ATS (one push)
    wk10: 7-5 ATS
    wk 11: 4-6ATS
    wk 12: 4-5 ATS
    YTD: 82-58 ATS (.586)

    Been a struggle in the 2nd half of the year. Lines are tight, you need a little luck to hit these games.

    Thx to all for contributing. Would be awesome to hit 60%+ for the year-end mark. Easier said than done.
    Nomination(s):
    This post was nominated 1 time . To view the nominated thread please click here. People who nominated: stake1

  3. #3
    agendaman
    agendaman's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 12-01-11
    Posts: 3,660
    Betpoints: 13998

    really tough time for cappers now.sharp lines teams eyeing the playoffs bad weather etc.we need the gambling gods to smile on us now and then.

  4. #4
    ChuckyTheGoat
    ChuckyTheGoat's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 04-04-11
    Posts: 31,511
    Betpoints: 24869

    Quote Originally Posted by agendaman View Post
    really tough time for cappers now.sharp lines teams eyeing the playoffs bad weather etc.we need the gambling gods to smile on us now and then.
    Very tough, Agenda. Need a little luck to get by.

  5. #5
    pologq
    When you are SBR you are SBR 4 Life
    pologq's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 10-07-12
    Posts: 19,849
    Betpoints: 5971

    very tough as weeks go on. leaning bucs on monday night. don't like -3.5 though.
    Nomination(s):
    This post was nominated 1 time . To view the nominated thread please click here. People who nominated: ChuckyTheGoat

  6. #6
    ChuckyTheGoat
    ChuckyTheGoat's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 04-04-11
    Posts: 31,511
    Betpoints: 24869

    Quote Originally Posted by pologq View Post
    very tough as weeks go on. leaning bucs on monday night. don't like -3.5 though.
    Ya, Polo. My plan is to continue this thru Week 17.

    Plan to skip week 18, just b/c so many of those games are "dead rubbers." Yes, these games are very tough to read.

  7. #7
    ChuckyTheGoat
    ChuckyTheGoat's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 04-04-11
    Posts: 31,511
    Betpoints: 24869

    THUR: Bills at Patriots.

    Good Luck this week, boys.

  8. #8
    agendaman
    agendaman's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 12-01-11
    Posts: 3,660
    Betpoints: 13998

    i am so tire of dealing with bad weather conditions esp. as we get later in the season.there are 10 stadiums with domes.my weekly pick and personal bets will come from those games.p.s some key injuries at present guys.

  9. #9
    pologq
    When you are SBR you are SBR 4 Life
    pologq's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 10-07-12
    Posts: 19,849
    Betpoints: 5971

    i will go official on the bucs -3.5 at -110. i feel the line should be -5 even with the bucs struggles.

  10. #10
    ChuckyTheGoat
    ChuckyTheGoat's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 04-04-11
    Posts: 31,511
    Betpoints: 24869

    Quote Originally Posted by pologq View Post
    i will go official on the bucs -3.5 at -110. i feel the line should be -5 even with the bucs struggles.
    Thank you, Polo! I'll mark you down on the Bucs. Good Luck.

  11. #11
    calamity sue
    calamity sue's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 10-28-21
    Posts: 13
    Betpoints: 1116

    Looks like I'm going with the Steelers again even though they are no longer at +1' but a pick now.

    Watts might not play so I'm withdrawing the Steelers.
    Last edited by calamity sue; 12-03-22 at 08:42 AM.

  12. #12
    TheLock
    TheLock's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 04-06-08
    Posts: 14,429
    Betpoints: 7931

    I can’t decide between Jets or Washington

  13. #13
    ChuckyTheGoat
    ChuckyTheGoat's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 04-04-11
    Posts: 31,511
    Betpoints: 24869

    Playing: 453 Denver Broncos +8.5

  14. #14
    ChuckyTheGoat
    ChuckyTheGoat's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 04-04-11
    Posts: 31,511
    Betpoints: 24869

    I was ready to bet +8. # bumped up a tick to +8.5, which feels like a bonus to me.

    Broncos are 1/10 to the UNDER this year. This screams how one-sided the Broncos are. Tough defense, but awful offense.

    *Broncos are ranked 32nd in Scoring Offense (14ppg). So, Fantasy FB players can't back Denver.

    *Tough defense that has been there all year. Bronco DEF keeps the team in the game.

    +8.5 pt Dog with a Total of 38.5. So, Side is > 20% of the Total.

    View this as a game where Broncos can hang the #. Ravens' biggest problem has been holding leads. So, I feel like the backdoor is wide-open here.

    Ravens off another gut-punch loss, coughing up the lead to Jaguars last week. Still can't secure those late leads.

    Trigger for me is that the media has been taking pot-shots at Wilson this week. FWIW, Hackett and one of the offensive linemen came to Wilson's defense. At least on the surface, looks like guys rowing the boat in the same direction.

    Lastly, Jackson picked up a hamstring knock in practice. I fully expect him to play. But there's at least a chance he misses.

  15. #15
    ChuckyTheGoat
    ChuckyTheGoat's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 04-04-11
    Posts: 31,511
    Betpoints: 24869

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity sue View Post
    Looks like I'm going with the Steelers again even though they are no longer at +1' but a pick now.
    Sue, to your point, I've been frustrated w/ line-moves almost every week. Boy, you gotta be prepared early in the week to get down at the peak #.

  16. #16
    Tomatero
    Tomatero's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 05-06-17
    Posts: 340
    Betpoints: 1911

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLock View Post
    I can’t decide between Jets or Washington
    NY Jets

  17. #17
    jackpot269
    jackpot269's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 09-24-07
    Posts: 11,493
    Betpoints: 8353

    Fading the chargers taking the Raiders +2

    This is 3rd week with raiders, going to ride them tell they screw me or throw me!

    GL chucky thank you for this great thread

    I go thru the thread At least 5 or 6 times every week and make sure I didn't miss anything!

  18. #18
    agendaman
    agendaman's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 12-01-11
    Posts: 3,660
    Betpoints: 13998

    raiders-chargers over total of 51 at -105.these 2 teams have weapons to muster pts. eckler keenan allen dav. adams.a combined total near 70 woud not surprise me.we just gotta keep grindin lads. gl to us all.

  19. #19
    edawg
    edawg's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 07-09-11
    Posts: 2,818
    Betpoints: 5030

    San Fransicko -4
    Points Awarded:

    stake1 gave edawg 7 Betpoint(s) for this post.


  20. #20
    TheLock
    TheLock's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 04-06-08
    Posts: 14,429
    Betpoints: 7931

    Quote Originally Posted by Tomatero View Post
    NY Jets
    Alright let’s do it, pally.

    Jets +3 is my selection

  21. #21
    jackpot269
    jackpot269's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 09-24-07
    Posts: 11,493
    Betpoints: 8353

    Quote Originally Posted by pologq View Post
    i will go official on the bucs -3.5 at -110. i feel the line should be -5 even with the bucs struggles.
    I was thinking same on spread!

  22. #22
    ChuckyTheGoat
    ChuckyTheGoat's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 04-04-11
    Posts: 31,511
    Betpoints: 24869

    Quote Originally Posted by jackpot269 View Post
    Fading the chargers taking the Raiders +2

    This is 3rd week with raiders, going to ride them tell they screw me or throw me!

    GL chucky thank you for this great thread

    I go thru the thread At least 5 or 6 times every week and make sure I didn't miss anything!
    Salud, Jack. Ya, good info in here. Hope we turn it into a +$ week.

  23. #23
    ChuckyTheGoat
    ChuckyTheGoat's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 04-04-11
    Posts: 31,511
    Betpoints: 24869

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLock View Post
    Alright let’s do it, pally.

    Jets +3 is my selection
    Lock, there's a weather report coming out of Jets camp. Looks like we might see White Lightning on Sunday. GL.

  24. #24
    jackpot269
    jackpot269's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 09-24-07
    Posts: 11,493
    Betpoints: 8353

    Quote Originally Posted by jackpot269 View Post
    Fading the chargers taking the Raiders +2

    This is 3rd week with raiders, going to ride them tell they screw me or throw me!

    GL chucky thank you for this great thread

    I go thru the thread At least 5 or 6 times every week and make sure I didn't miss anything!
    Chucky I saw this one at +2-110
    And +1-103 so I posted the -110 didn't put price in original post sorry about that

  25. #25
    ChuckyTheGoat
    ChuckyTheGoat's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 04-04-11
    Posts: 31,511
    Betpoints: 24869

    Summary of picks:

    451 NY Jets +3
    453 Denver +8.5
    470 SAN FRAN -4
    472 LAS VEGAS +2
    472 Charg/Raid OVER 51

    478 TAMPA BAY -3.5

    Thanks to Jackpot, Agenda, Edawg, and Lock. Marking you down. Sue/Tomatero, confirm by quoting a price...and I'll make you down.

    Good Luck, everyone. And thanks for posting.
    Points Awarded:

    stake1 gave ChuckyTheGoat 3 Betpoint(s) for this post.


  26. #26
    ChuckyTheGoat
    ChuckyTheGoat's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 04-04-11
    Posts: 31,511
    Betpoints: 24869

    Quote Originally Posted by jackpot269 View Post
    Chucky I saw this one at +2-110
    And +1-103 so I posted the -110 didn't put price in original post sorry about that
    What was the price when you posted? I'm happy to change it to whatever you think is fair.

  27. #27
    jackpot269
    jackpot269's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 09-24-07
    Posts: 11,493
    Betpoints: 8353

    I took the 2 points it was at two different books

  28. #28
    ChuckyTheGoat
    ChuckyTheGoat's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 04-04-11
    Posts: 31,511
    Betpoints: 24869

    Quote Originally Posted by jackpot269 View Post
    I took the 2 points it was at two different books
    OK, let's leave it. If the +2 was available at time of post, that's good. Thx for the honesty, Jack...and GL.

  29. #29
    cincinnatikid513
    contra spem spero
    cincinnatikid513's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 11-23-17
    Posts: 45,358
    Betpoints: 93

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckyTheGoat View Post
    What was the price when you posted? I'm happy to change it to whatever you think is fair.
    almost all books by 632 pm today had raiders as -1 fav do not see any with raiders +2 at that time, of course doesn't matter because raiders are mushed with sean picking the raiders so good lucks raider backers

  30. #30
    Nate rasta
    Update your status
    Nate rasta's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 05-30-22
    Posts: 2,940
    Betpoints: 2782

    Going back to the well

    New York football Giants +2.5
    Line should be flipped New York should be -3

  31. #31
    ChuckyTheGoat
    ChuckyTheGoat's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 04-04-11
    Posts: 31,511
    Betpoints: 24869

    Quote Originally Posted by Nate rasta View Post
    Going back to the well

    New York football Giants +2.5
    Line should be flipped New York should be -3
    Summary of picks:

    451 NY Jets +3
    453 Denver +8.5
    462 NY GIANTS +2.5
    470 SAN FRAN -4
    472 LAS VEGAS +2


    472 Charg/Raid OVER 51
    478 TAMPA BAY -3.5

    Thank you, Nate! Good Luck on the Giants.

  32. #32
    StackinGreen
    Can't stop Won't stop
    StackinGreen's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 10-09-10
    Posts: 12,141
    Betpoints: 4514

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckyTheGoat View Post
    Summary of picks:

    451 NY Jets +3
    453 Denver +8.5
    462 NY GIANTS +2.5
    470 SAN FRAN -4
    472 LAS VEGAS +2


    472 Charg/Raid OVER 51
    478 TAMPA BAY -3.5

    Thank you, Nate! Good Luck on the Giants.
    Good luck this weekend

  33. #33
    pologq
    When you are SBR you are SBR 4 Life
    pologq's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 10-07-12
    Posts: 19,849
    Betpoints: 5971

    broncos definitely feels like a lot of points. their defense is still playing great. i could see a 17-10 game.

  34. #34
    OldBill
    OldBill's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 11-02-21
    Posts: 6,020
    Betpoints: 5240

    using my ats charts fadeing the vikings because of the huge DD crossover from -35.5 to plus 4.5 is huge 40 points in one game

    taking the JETS +3 team is tough now mike white lit up last foe

  35. #35
    Tomatero
    Tomatero's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 05-06-17
    Posts: 340
    Betpoints: 1911

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLock View Post
    Alright let’s do it, pally.

    Jets +3 is my selection
    Good luck amigo 🍀 🏈

12 Last
Top