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    Fanny pack or murse for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    reasons NOT to do the app

    1) possible w-2g showing taxable winnings if you win
    2) first bet on the app should be the $1250 risk-free bet... if you get the app and don't do this, you're essentially throwing away a one-time chance
    3) even if you're not staying at caesar's, there are tons of other books ON THE SAME STREET
    4) drink tickets
    5) pain in the ass to set up the app, and might have to wait a couple days to cash out at the cage, by then he might be gone

    but i'm sure you know all this

    by the way, i'm never answering another one of your emails... you could at least FUKKING SAY THANK YOU when someone spends their time trying to help you
    1) All wins are taxable, all losses are tax deductible. If that’s not true for someone they should probably fix the way they bet and how they do their accounting.

    2) Any promotion like that would be the exact reason to use a mobile account.

    3) Extremely difficult to earn profits without access to all of them. Scrolling through a phone is much easier than running around from casino to casino.

    4) Many places give them out with deposits. Don’t even have to make a bet.

    5) Payouts are immediate during business hours. They would be setting themselves up for a visit and possible fines from gaming control board if they held up payouts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Squares go to Sportsbooks other than to bet a off number max bet
    Better than sitting at home watching 1 TV

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    Im in for a few days for work. Wtf would I sit in my room and watch a game when I can watch em all, drink all day for free. I dont get it, if your going to Vegas enjoy it a little bit, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TommieGunshot View Post
    1) All wins are taxable, all losses are tax deductible. If that’s not true for someone they should probably fix the way they bet and how they do their accounting.

    2) Any promotion like that would be the exact reason to use a mobile account.

    3) Extremely difficult to earn profits without access to all of them. Scrolling through a phone is much easier than running around from casino to casino.

    4) Many places give them out with deposits. Don’t even have to make a bet.

    5) Payouts are immediate during business hours. They would be setting themselves up for a visit and possible fines from gaming control board if they held up payouts.
    for #1 that's only if you are a professional gambler, otherwise someone would have to itemize their deductions, which almost nobody does any more because of the $25,900 standard deduction

    and for #5 that's not true with apps, i had to wait almost 2 days for fanduel (after a 2-week suspension for KYC) and almost 2 days for barstool... on a fun trip to vegas, that would really be great, go on the app to bet and your account is suspended! or even just a 2-day wait when he is now gone, or wanted that money to bet with

    here it is right from caesar's website

    Your withdrawal request should be processed by Caesars within 72 hours, but usually will be complete within a day or two. Once approved, you will receive a notification that the funds have been sent to the payment processor of your choice.


    Payments - Welcome to Caesars Sportsbook

    https://caesars.com › sportsbook-and-casino › support › p...




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    Quote Originally Posted by Regul8er View Post
    Im in for a few days for work. Wtf would I sit in my room and watch a game when I can watch em all, drink all day for free. I dont get it, if your going to Vegas enjoy it a little bit, right?
    absolutely

    no idea why these weirdos want you to spend a vacation/work trip setting up apps and turning FUN into ADDITIONAL WORK

    these same guys probably don't sit by the pool ordering food/drinks because it's too expensive and they might be missing out on a $20 hedge lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    absolutely

    no idea why these weirdos want you to spend a vacation/work trip setting up apps and turning FUN into ADDITIONAL WORK

    these same guys probably don't sit by the pool ordering food/drinks because it's too expensive and they might be missing out on a $20 hedge lol
    Agreed. Have fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    and for #5 that's not true with apps, i had to wait almost 2 days for fanduel (after a 2-week suspension for KYC) and almost 2 days for barstool... on a fun trip to vegas, that would really be great, go on the app to bet and your account is suspended! or even just a 2-day wait when he is now gone, or wanted that money to bet with

    here it is right from caesar's website

    Your withdrawal request should be processed by Caesars within 72 hours, but usually will be complete within a day or two. Once approved, you will receive a notification that the funds have been sent to the payment processor of your choice.
    This is below even jjgold level trolling. The question was very clearly abou Vegas and you provided a link for what looks like Colorado rules. Click on Nevada and see what it says. I also made it clear any payout would be immediate from a ticket writer at the counter, talking about how electronic withdrawals in a different state is just silly. Even in the link you provided they said they would pay out right away in person:

    You can make a cash withdrawal from one of our retail locations. Just present your valid photo ID at one of the sports book windows and one of our ticket writers will locate your digital account. To verify the transaction, the ticket writer will send a message with the withdrawal amount and passcode to your mobile phone. The ticket agent will validate the code and pay out your withdrawal in cash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjsuax13 View Post
    Totally agree and live here. Good for futures and an occasional spot. Thats it. They are so stuck. Books filled with drunk visitors, parlay card guys and old guys beating the table over their 10th straight loss on the horses.
    If they ever legalize the apps there, not sure they will, but if so, those sportsbooks will all go out of business. I can guarantee it. People want options nowadays. It's like they're still only selling model ts when the rest of the world has moved on. If I'm gonna go into the nino to place a wager, I even want more than i can find online. Why leave my couch at 6 pm, get a cab, place a bet, have to wait around for the outcome, then get paid? Wouldn't mind though if they did things other online books don't, which let's face it, is not much.

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    There are two issues for bigger players these days, the way I see it. And when I say bigger, I mean the guys who (I could theoretically be in this class) are top earners in real life and like to bet on games, but don't have the million dollar money where they either don't care about the money that much (it's more social media and ego than most) and/or have highly paid accountants or other really stupid write offs. Why would I want to be tracked on an app (even for the ease, that's the cost) in the surveillance state? Now the IRS is going to be looking at low to mid six figure earners? I'll take my chances with the paperwork BS the other brick and mortars, not an indelible online verification that I bet X and won Y. What's the second issue? Not only taking out cash from a bank, but putting it back in. You get hundreds of questions on both ends. It's like we live in communist state, which we sorta do, the Constitution doesn't mean anything. They accuse you of indirectly being a criminal, not actually accuse you of committing a crime. Ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StackinGreen View Post
    There are two issues for bigger players these days, the way I see it. And when I say bigger, I mean the guys who (I could theoretically be in this class) are top earners in real life and like to bet on games, but don't have the million dollar money where they either don't care about the money that much (it's more social media and ego than most) and/or have highly paid accountants or other really stupid write offs. Why would I want to be tracked on an app (even for the ease, that's the cost) in the surveillance state? Now the IRS is going to be looking at low to mid six figure earners? I'll take my chances with the paperwork BS the other brick and mortars, not an indelible online verification that I bet X and won Y. What's the second issue? Not only taking out cash from a bank, but putting it back in. You get hundreds of questions on both ends. It's like we live in communist state, which we sorta do, the Constitution doesn't mean anything. They accuse you of indirectly being a criminal, not actually accuse you of committing a crime. Ridiculous.
    Guys who are making 200 grand a year gambling sports are already paying taxes. They aren't hiding that. If you win big at a casino you are paying taxes too. All that shit is getting sent to the IRS. If you win 10 grand on fanduel, most ppl won't even pay the taxes on that, they'll say f it, let the irs come after me. That's mickey mouse money. If you really just are worried about no taxes you'd just go old school or play with a local.

    If you get a check from Bovada for 10 grand, what's the difference about putting it in your bank? You'll have to cash the check at a shady liquor store, give up a couple hundred bucks, then keep the cash in your house.

    Lots of different things obviously. But on Fanduel, you can parlay shit for 20 bucks that can win you 200 grand. You can't do that on Bovada, or in Vegas, or anywhere. and a big company like that will actually pay if you hit that lotto ticket. And if you do, what's 30% in taxes? F it.

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    6-0 in college today. Oregon St about to hit the dust, but 6-1 will be just fine with me. Turning into a very profitable trip with plenty of drinks to go around. Lfg

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    Well fellers, what the hell can I say. Oregon St does the unthinkable, and erases a 16 point half time deficit to cover by half a point. About a 4k day……one I wont soon forgot!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Regul8er View Post
    Well fellers, what the hell can I say. Oregon St does the unthinkable, and erases a 16 point half time deficit to cover by half a point. About a 4k day……one I wont soon forgot!
    holy smokes, nice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Regul8er View Post
    Well fellers, what the hell can I say. Oregon St does the unthinkable, and erases a 16 point half time deficit to cover by half a point. About a 4k day……one I wont soon forgot!
    I'm glad you got to the window in time. Nice picks! Any plans for the $$$?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goat Milk View Post
    Guys who are making 200 grand a year gambling sports are already paying taxes. They aren't hiding that. If you win big at a casino you are paying taxes too. All that shit is getting sent to the IRS. If you win 10 grand on fanduel, most ppl won't even pay the taxes on that, they'll say f it, let the irs come after me. That's mickey mouse money. If you really just are worried about no taxes you'd just go old school or play with a local.

    If you get a check from Bovada for 10 grand, what's the difference about putting it in your bank? You'll have to cash the check at a shady liquor store, give up a couple hundred bucks, then keep the cash in your house.

    Lots of different things obviously. But on Fanduel, you can parlay shit for 20 bucks that can win you 200 grand. You can't do that on Bovada, or in Vegas, or anywhere. and a big company like that will actually pay if you hit that lotto ticket. And if you do, what's 30% in taxes? F it.
    I pay taxes and don't want to pay more or report more, especially cash. I don't see how you answered any of my questions. If I'm online they send a form to the IRS if I cash a lot for the whole year. If I'm brick and mortar, they send nothing. Do they keep track, sure, on pieces of paper and nothing gets sent to the IRS. That's a pretty big deal if I win 20k or more in a year.

    As for fan duel, good point, but no relevant to me. The parlay is hard enough to hit already, then you're giving back 30% (remember, it's not like it's a guarantee that you ever hit one in your whole life)? That seems silly. One of the reasons I don't play the supercontests is precisely that. I've gotta pay 30% more (they better have no fees, at least circa doesn't now so westgate had to follow) if I beat one of the lucky pickers that you who hit 69%? Whew, seems stupid since all that means is ego for me at that point, and guys already won a lot like Fezzik back in the day who can say "been there done that".

    I'd rather play against other guys in office pool like environments to win 5-15k and have a real shot at beating them, since I am good at what I do and the numbers game can't beat me with pure luck (1000s of contestants for the supercontests).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Regul8er View Post
    Well fellers, what the hell can I say. Oregon St does the unthinkable, and erases a 16 point half time deficit to cover by half a point. About a 4k day……one I wont soon forgot!
    Great job! It's amazing when the one game you need actually hits in a weird fashion. Mostly we all know it works the other way. Good stuff, bro

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    lets not confuse the issue, Caesars sports is William Hill. Everyone should know by now that William Hill has more Nevada Gaming Board complaints than all other Nevada Licensee's combined. William Hill is notorious for limiting bettors and withholding payouts. Every property that had their own independent race and sports that was replaced by William Hill has had their seating eliminated and reduced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StackinGreen View Post
    I pay taxes and don't want to pay more or report more, especially cash. I don't see how you answered any of my questions. If I'm online they send a form to the IRS if I cash a lot for the whole year. If I'm brick and mortar, they send nothing. Do they keep track, sure, on pieces of paper and nothing gets sent to the IRS. That's a pretty big deal if I win 20k or more in a year.

    As for fan duel, good point, but no relevant to me. The parlay is hard enough to hit already, then you're giving back 30% (remember, it's not like it's a guarantee that you ever hit one in your whole life)? That seems silly. One of the reasons I don't play the supercontests is precisely that. I've gotta pay 30% more (they better have no fees, at least circa doesn't now so westgate had to follow) if I beat one of the lucky pickers that you who hit 69%? Whew, seems stupid since all that means is ego for me at that point, and guys already won a lot like Fezzik back in the day who can say "been there done that".

    I'd rather play against other guys in office pool like environments to win 5-15k and have a real shot at beating them, since I am good at what I do and the numbers game can't beat me with pure luck (1000s of contestants for the supercontests).
    I mean I know guys that have hit for 250k on 25 dollar bets, so yeah it's obviously hard but it's not impossible for someone like you who knows sports. You can't win that kind of money just betting spreads and totals in a parlay, I don't care how much you know. If you combined a couple spreads, with some player props, maybe a tie at half and full game winner, you can easily get lucky. Point is, if you do hit, that's money you would never see betting in vegas.

    But I respect the taxes thing. If ur cool with keeping cash, since you can't really deposit it into your bank if you win 50 60 grand gambling in a year, then that's cool. Maybe just throw it in a safety deposit box I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    I'm glad you got to the window in time. Nice picks! Any plans for the $$$?
    Gotta get through the trip, but probably just add it to my college bankroll this year. Bad weeks will be happen, and need money to support those. But enjoying this trip for sure.

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    A light hearted, fun thread is turning into a sh!t show. Some of yall need to chill and just live for the day. Put the brain on pause for a few minutes or it will pass you by really quick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Regul8er View Post
    A light hearted, fun thread is turning into a sh!t show. Some of yall need to chill and just live for the day. Put the brain on pause for a few minutes or it will pass you by really quick.
    i definitely did that when i was confusing caesars app in illinois with will hill app in nevada

    yeah i screwed that up, sorry, but either way the apps are OK for promos if you're gonna goof around at home in your spare time, on a trip to vegas who cares!

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    Question guys. I have a ticket from Tropicana last night that they couldnt cash this morning because the William Hill system was down. I understand I can cash this at any William Hill book. I plan on hanging at Westgate after work until my flight. Is there a William Hill close? Ill be coming to Westgate from Henderson. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Regul8er View Post
    Question guys. I have a ticket from Tropicana last night that they couldnt cash this morning because the William Hill system was down. I understand I can cash this at any William Hill book. I plan on hanging at Westgate after work until my flight. Is there a William Hill close? Ill be coming to Westgate from Henderson. Thanks!
    i think there's one in sahara and stratosphere, that's an easy walk/drive

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goat Milk View Post
    I mean I know guys that have hit for 250k on 25 dollar bets, so yeah it's obviously hard but it's not impossible for someone like you who knows sports. You can't win that kind of money just betting spreads and totals in a parlay, I don't care how much you know. If you combined a couple spreads, with some player props, maybe a tie at half and full game winner, you can easily get lucky. Point is, if you do hit, that's money you would never see betting in vegas.

    But I respect the taxes thing. If ur cool with keeping cash, since you can't really deposit it into your bank if you win 50 60 grand gambling in a year, then that's cool. Maybe just throw it in a safety deposit box I guess.
    Thanks for the post. Your points are duly noted, good stuff.

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    Yes, I know some people who are playing same game parlay with odds (like home runs, runs, hits, etc) or in NFL games touchdown scorers with other props, right? How many do you all parlay usually, 4 or 5? Or like 7 to get the huge parlay odds?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Regul8er View Post
    Im in for a few days for work. Wtf would I sit in my room and watch a game when I can watch em all, drink all day for free. I dont get it, if your going to Vegas enjoy it a little bit, right?
    Forget all that other stuff, what's your plays bro?

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    Should have Will Hill at CASINO ROYALE

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    Quote Originally Posted by StackinGreen View Post
    Yes, I know some people who are playing same game parlay with odds (like home runs, runs, hits, etc) or in NFL games touchdown scorers with other props, right? How many do you all parlay usually, 4 or 5? Or like 7 to get the huge parlay odds?
    Sometimes I'll parlay like 4-5 of em for like 25 to win 5 grand. I usually don't go for teh massive ones some people do. So for example, last week I put mixon 100+ yards in all my parlays, I think that was +490 by itself. Then I took Justin Jefferson to score 2 tds, which almost hit but didn't, that was like +650 I think. I took Tyreke to get a td, I took Henry to get 2tds, I took Devante Adams to get 100+ yards. All in all I missed 2 different parlays by 1 thing, which would have yielded me about 12 grand. I missed 1 by that JJ drop in the endzone for 2, and I missed another by something else. But I've hit these before plenty of times.

    Usually I look for big star players that have underperformed and have a great matchup ahead of them, then I take their alternate props, either alternate yards over, or if they're due for a couple td day, I take that. The odds start to get really crazy and add up.
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    Sorry fellas. At airport now. Went 3-2 today with a gross loss on Wright St +4.5. That one made me sick. But Im leaving town with $3200 more then I arrived with. Successful trip for sure.
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    Which CZR properties do you find the best to stay at in Vegas? I've stayed at most, just wondering what your thoughts are.

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