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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    Did Donald Brashear ever talk about a racial issue in hockey? Did Anson Carter every talk about a racial issue in hockey? These dudes played on an ALL WHITE TEAM. It just goes to show.... the media... and "SELECT" groups brings up racism in the world. Where exactly is the racial issue at??? Clearly they would of told you if there was one.

    Just one sad ridiculous world we live in now... totally fed up with this horse sh## everyday. They say we live in a free world... it doesn't look free to me. Biased bullsh##. It's always "some group" saying something isn't EQUAL.... well... it looks fine to me.
    Its a tiny minority that cries and these corporations are scared of the backlash. I think if they call out the bullshit race baiting they will do even better business wise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    I was responding specifically to the use of "problem" and where it seems to come from.

    What did the NHL do?

    All they did was run a self identifying study with not even all employees and are producing a statistic based on it.

    That's what they did.

    Now if Kim Davis wants to set some kind of hiring quota then I hope it comes with investments in black neighborhoods for ice hockey access. That way kids can play then become coaches and fathers with kids who play. That will create qualified candidates for sure. It will take more than a generation if they started now.

    But somehow I don't see an ice rink and a hockey league popping up and getting poplular in south bama anytime soon.

    I would abosolutely, however, not rule out that qualified black people were denied an NHL job because of their color.

    It literally happens everywhere with just about everything, even if the incidents are not many, and there is more than enough legitimate data to back that up.

    The NHL is just trying to see if that's what they are guilty of and we all know somewhere along the way somebody probably was. It's just the law of averages. But that's likely a minority...again in line with data.
    That is itself is racist.

    Affirmative action is racist.

    Stop talking about race is my point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    I came from a hockey family... and most of these answers are going around the true bread and butter of the REAL ANSWER.

    1. Most black people simply can't skate (no coordination on ice.)

    2. They also hate COLD WEATHER.

    Yes, hockey is an expensive sport... but it's not the real reason. I'm not being racist... I'm simply being honest. Its hilarious that the NHL is leaning towards minorities. Bettman knows this... he's acting like he doesn't.... he doesn't want heat from this.

    If the NHL tries to fix this... good luck... it's impossible.
    its getting more ridiculous.

    Blacks can run fast. No studies as to why more Whites are running in the 100 meters at the Olympics.

    the NBA hello?

    Unreal how pussified some people have become.

    I played hockey growing up in Canada. We would play at 8-Rinks at 11pm or even 12:30 am many times. Sometimes no goalies would show up (they play for free) but we just turned the nets around or we played posts. No one cared if anyone was Black. Well maybe someone did I guess, but I never noticed. We just went out to have fun and when you hear the Zamboni stop, you just wanna get out there and play. Those first few strides on a brand new sheet of ice. The sound of the blades carving into the ice. Man I miss it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post
    That is itself is racist.

    Affirmative action is racist.

    Stop talking about race is my point.
    No, creating equal opportunity is not necessarily racist. Neither is Affirmative action.

    I think you mean discriminatory. I think you are talking about discrimination, not racism.

    I agree, many policies are discriminitory and many parts of the country have moved on from a race discussion, but many parts haven't.

    Racism and discrimination exist and not talking about it won't help.

    But creating investment for equal opportunity does not have to be racist or discriminatory. Sadly, it often becomes that, but don't mistake one race benefitting more from an Ice Rink than another simply because of the hood it's in.

    That's not racism, that's not discriminatory.

    But if you don't change the demographic you market to, you aren't changing anything for real.

    Again, just optics if all they are worried about are the percentages of new hires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post
    its getting more ridiculous.

    Blacks can run fast. No studies as to why more Whites are running in the 100 meters at the Olympics.

    the NBA hello?

    Unreal how pussified some people have become.

    I played hockey growing up in Canada. We would play at 8-Rinks at 11pm or even 12:30 am many times. Sometimes no goalies would show up (they play for free) but we just turned the nets around or we played posts. No one cared if anyone was Black. Well maybe someone did I guess, but I never noticed. We just went out to have fun and when you hear the Zamboni stop, you just wanna get out there and play. Those first few strides on a brand new sheet of ice. The sound of the blades carving into the ice. Man I miss it.
    That's exactly it... you all went out to play the great game of hockey.... and you didn't care who showed up. Everyone was welcome. It's how it should be.

    If there's anyone who still talks about the world NOT BEING EQUAL... it's our great friend LeBron James. Hey LeBron... you are so amazing at basketball. And you throw things around how you'd like to play football at 37... I have an idea my man... let's see if you can skate bro?? Put a pair on... and I'll see you at the hockey rink guy.

    It's unfortunate that this world is so divided. Hockey is just a simple sport that involves a lot of coordination on ice... quick decision making... and athleticism... some ethnic backgrounds could careless to learn how to skate.... has nothing to do with not allowing minorities in the NHL. They simply KNOW NOTHING ABOUT HOCKEY. It's not discriminating when they elected NOT TO LEARN IT or PLAY IT.

    How the hell do you hire anyone who's a minority in the NHL in which their knowledge of the game isn't up to par? Maybe we could hire them as an Equipment Manager??? Perhaps to carry a puck bag??? I don't know????

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    Racism and discrimination exist and not talking about it won't help.
    I have to disagree with this. It might of been an issue 40-50 years ago. It's not even on the same level as today. The MEDIA makes it ALIVE. When you don't talk about something... it just fades. When you constantly talk about something... it's in front of you every day.

    When DWIGHT mentioned meet up with your friends at the hockey rink.... and play... did you ever have beef with someone?? We all did. Sh## I can think of every dude I battled with 20+ years ago. They were all white. What I'm trying to get at... who doesn't have an issue with someone? We're the same RACE and we had an issue with each other. I have never ran into any Mexican... black... whatever color they were and looked for trouble. In fact... out of every minority I ran into... we always got along. I also don't have any WHITE friends... who conclusively said... I HATE BLACK PEOPLE. So again... when you hear DIVIDE... that's the MEDIA saying that. For whatever reason.... they do it.

    Regardless... it's natural for people to be competitive... and compete against each other... it could be WHITE VS WHITE.... BLACK VS BLACK. What I don't understand is.... someone always has to pull the RACIST CARD... and it's really annoying. This is what causes the tension.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    No, creating equal opportunity is not necessarily racist. Neither is Affirmative action.

    I think you mean discriminatory. I think you are talking about discrimination, not racism.

    I agree, many policies are discriminitory and many parts of the country have moved on from a race discussion, but many parts haven't.

    Racism and discrimination exist and not talking about it won't help.

    But creating investment for equal opportunity does not have to be racist or discriminatory. Sadly, it often becomes that, but don't mistake one race benefitting more from an Ice Rink than another simply because of the hood it's in.

    That's not racism, that's not discriminatory.

    But if you don't change the demographic you market to, you aren't changing anything for real.

    Again, just optics if all they are worried about are the percentages of new hires.
    The Left isn't talking about equality anymore have you noticed? Instead, its equity. Huge difference. I believe everyone has the right to stand at the starting line with anyone else who wished to compete. That's equality. I don't believe that everyone should finish at the same spot. That equity. Some people just work harder than others and should be rewarded for it. No participation trophies.

    I hear that the average NFL salary is 2 mil a year now. Apparently almost half the starting QB's are Black now I heard. I never thought of it so I went through the teams and yup almost half are. I didn't care and I still don't care. If anything, I am surprised its not higher. Some people care about these kind of thing apparently.

    The only people I have ever heard say that they hate Black people are Black people. And that's only a couple I can recall.

    Yes Racism and discrimination do exist and anyone that is outright racist and discriminates won't survive long in this world no more. We have come a long way in that department. But it's gotten to the point where its ok to be racist against Whites now. There are places in universities where White people cannot go because they trigger Blacks. Companies will hire a less qualified person of color over a White person because of a quota they want to fill. There are Black only colleges. That is the definition of racism.

    I am sure you seen this before, but in case you haven't or its been awhile, he says it perfectly in my humble opinion.

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    need more urban owners and GMs too and a commissioner for the people and an africa-nadian president
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    Quote Originally Posted by manny24 View Post
    need more urban owners and GMs too and a commissioner for the people and an africa-nadian president

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    Make an African league like the NBA has

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    we are under attack! if you aren't finding your local proud boys chapter and training, there is something wrong with ya, and I can't help ya
    Lol this really got guys riled up. Good forbid the NHL try to hire some more non white male office workers. This isn't even about the players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigtymer56 View Post
    Lol this really got guys riled up. Good forbid the NHL try to hire some more non white male office workers. This isn't even about the players.
    how about just hiring the best people for the job and leaving the color of their skin out of it?

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    Minorities don't care about hockey anyway.
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    Blacks by and large are just not interested in hockey. That's just how it is. Not a surprise that they don't have many working in it, or playing it, nor should it be. The euro countries with the most interest have very tiny African population and Canada doesn't have a large one either. It's as much about demographics as it is about economics IMO. The places where hockey is more popular just doesn't have a large population of blacks.

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    Chess is also racist, because white pieces get the first move.

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    We need more black chess grandmasters and asian male pornstars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post
    They take the civilization around them with all technological developments for granted.

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    When the world turns beige what will we complain about then???

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    Quote Originally Posted by thetrinity View Post
    Blacks by and large are just not interested in hockey. That's just how it is. Not a surprise that they don't have many working in it, or playing it, nor should it be. The euro countries with the most interest have very tiny African population and Canada doesn't have a large one either. It's as much about demographics as it is about economics IMO. The places where hockey is more popular just doesn't have a large population of blacks.
    That was true years ago but not now.
    You should visit Canada, whites are minorities in major cities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    I'd join the black girl hockey club if they'd let in a little skinny white guy that looks like David Spade.

    That shit sounds fun.

    Real Talk.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post
    how about just hiring the best people for the job and leaving the color of their skin out of it?
    That ship has sailed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigtymer56 View Post
    Lol this really got guys riled up. Good forbid the NHL try to hire some more non white male office workers. This isn't even about the players.
    No one got riled up. I'm laughing at how ridiculously stupid the world is. If the NHL wants to look more ridiculous and unorthodox... like THEY MUST FIT IN with the NBA MLB and NFL.... kind of impossible when HOCKEY was embedded with the WHITE FOLK.

    All the BLACK FOLK had to do was pick up a stick and shoot a puck. Sh## shoot a rock towards a net. They didn't want to... they rather bounce a ball and shoot it in a basket. Did WHITE PEOPLE say... hey!! That's not fair! It's racist! No... we minded our own business and didn't cry like little bitches everyday like most of you uneven a$$holes do. When Aikman said...stop wearing the dresses. Some of you still do!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    No one got riled up. I'm laughing at how ridiculously stupid the world is. If the NHL wants to look more ridiculous and unorthodox... like THEY MUST FIT IN with the NBA MLB and NFL.... kind of impossible when HOCKEY was embedded with the WHITE FOLK.

    All the BLACK FOLK had to do was pick up a stick and shoot a puck. Sh## shoot a rock towards a net. They didn't want to... they rather bounce a ball and shoot it in a basket. Did WHITE PEOPLE say... hey!! That's not fair! It's racist! No... we minded our own business and didn't cry like little bitches everyday like most of you uneven a$$holes do. When Aikman said...stop wearing the dresses. Some of you still do!
    ohh the fake outrage.

    None for this but you just know if Trump said this about someone, the Left would lose their minds and their heads would actually exposed if he was gay ...


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    I do believe in treating people fairly and with respect.
    Hockey is a fun game and because some people decide they don't want to play, don't force them.
    From Mars Attacks, "Can't we all just get along?"

    Day by day the world seems to be getting worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gauchojake View Post
    When the world turns beige what will we complain about then???
    cross that bridge when we get there Jaker

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