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    Pre season results

    Pre Season
    Date VS Score Week ATS O/U
    Aug 11 awayTeamLogo NYG L 21-23 Pre- Week 1 W 3 O 34.5 DOG NYG s/u

    MIA 3 17 3 3 26
    TB 7 7 10 0 24
    ATS (Margin) O/U (Margin)
    1 (3) 32.5o (17.5)
    -1 32.5u DOG s/u won


    24
    New York Jets
    N.Y. Jets
    Philadelphia
    Philadelphia Eagles -1
    21


    ATL 109
    Atlanta
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    +5.5
    27
    Final
    23
    1 2 3 4 T Odds
    ATL 7 10 3 7 27
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    DET 7 10 3 3 23
    110 DET
    Detroit
    O/U MARGIN:
    O: 15.5


    10
    Tennessee Titans
    Tennessee
    107
    Baltimore
    108
    Baltimore Ravens
    23
    1 2 3 4 Total
    TEN 0 10 0 0 10
    BAL 7 7 3 6 23
    ATS (Margin) O/U (Margin)
    3.5 32o (1)
    -3.5 (9.5) 32u chalk romped


    24
    Cleveland Browns
    Cleveland
    111
    Jacksonville
    112
    Jacksonville Jaguars
    13
    1 2 3 4 Total
    CLE 0 14 10 0 24
    JAC 6 7 0 0 13
    ATS (Margin) O/U (Margin)
    1.5 (12.5) 36.5o (0.5)
    -1.5 36.5u DOGGIE Browns


    21
    Green Bay Packers
    Green Bay
    117
    San Francisco
    118
    San Francisco 49ers
    28
    1 2 3 4 Total
    GB 7 7 0 7 21
    SF 10 10 0 8 28
    ATS (Margin) O/U (Margin)
    2.5 35.5o (13.5)
    -2.5 (4.5) 35.5u Chalk 49ers W

    1 2 3 4 Total
    ARI 9 14 13 0 36
    CIN 0 9 0 14 23
    ATS (Margin) O/U (Margin)
    2 (15) 31o (28)
    -2 DOG Cards

    CAR 10 0 10 3 23
    WAS 0 6 0 15 21
    ATS (Margin) O/U (Margin)
    2.5 (4.5) 36o (8)
    -2.5 DOG Panthers

    1 2 3 4 Total
    KC 7 7 0 0 14
    CHI 0 0 16 3 19
    ATS (Margin) O/U (Margin)
    -1 38o
    1 (6) DOG BEARS BUT NOTE 1ST HALF K C SHUT EM OUT

    1 2 3 4 Total
    SEA 0 10 7 8 25
    PIT 14 3 8 7 32
    ATS (Margin) O/U (Margin)
    1 38.5o (18.5)
    -1 (6) CHALK STEEL

    1 2 3 4 Total
    IND 3 7 6 8 24
    BUF 0 7 3 17 27
    ATS (Margin) O/U (Margin)
    1 37.5o (13.5)
    -1 (2) CHALK BILLS

    1 2 3 4 Total
    NO 7 3 0 3 13
    HOU 3 7 0 7 17
    ATS (Margin) O/U (Margin)
    2.5 35o
    -2.5 (1.5) 35u (5) CHALK TEXANS

    1 2 3 4 Total
    MIA 3 17 3 3 26
    TB 7 7 10 0 24
    ATS (Margin) O/U (Margin)
    1 (3) 32.5o (17.5)
    -1 DOG PHINS

    1 2 3 4 Total
    LAR 0 14 8 7 29
    LAC 7 7 0 8 22
    ATS (Margin) O/U (Margin)
    3 (10) 32.5o (18.5)
    -3 DOG RAMS

    1 2 3 4 Total
    DAL 0 0 0 7 7
    DEN 0 17 0 0 17
    ATS (Margin) O/U (Margin)
    5 33.5o
    -5 (5) CHALK BRONCOS



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    lol, I had the UNDER on the Cinci game on Friday.


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    Pre season is absolute garbage.

    Hard to even watch it let alone put money on it

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    Anyone watch this you have to be an epic loser or follow it

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    I always laugh at the guys who have to watch what the bet or bet what they watch.

    So do the bookies.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    I always laugh at the guys who have to watch what the bet or bet what they watch.

    So do the bookies.

    Yeah, it's always best to bet blind. Wipe your ass with that logic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brock Landers View Post
    Yeah, it's always best to bet blind. Wipe your ass with that logic
    I would argue that by watching you are blinding yourself, merely looking at shadows on the wall of Plato's cave.

    Your eyes can easily be deceived and combine that with your emotions, you literally have no chance.

    Should we do a poll and ask SBR if Brock has a chance at succeeding at sportsbetting?

    Here, this allows posters to understand what happens in the eyes of some professional bettors and preseason football.

    A glimpse into successful approaches to preseason betting...

    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    Here's some of the tried a true ideas for the pre season...

    https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...ituations.html

    And an example of it in action last year...

    https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...l#post27970297

    Should see some more examples this year as well, we always do...

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    I would argue that by watching you are blinding yourself, merely looking at shadows on the wall of Plato's cave.

    Your eyes can easily be deceived and combine that with your emotions, you literally have no chance.

    Should we do a poll and ask SBR if Brock has a chance at succeeding at sportsbetting?

    Here, this allows posters to understand what happens in the eyes of some professional bettors and preseason football.

    A glimpse into successful approaches to preseason betting...
    KVB, you're a sharp guy. But if your saying there's one true way to wager of handicap or whatever you want to call it, you're full of shit.

    Also, preseason is 3 games now and almost all starters are sitting entire games, these are absolutely pointless exercises.

    You can win money, but it's nowhere near what you're trying to make it out to be

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    Here's another post to review...

    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    There are plenty of preseason angles to attack with out there. There really are.

    It takes the right matchups of teams that are working on specific areas of their game. The first step is to go team by team and see what the teams will be working on during the preseason. And what they won't need to work on until it gets closer to opening kickoff.

    Understand things like poor defenses in the season before will get worked on during the preseason and depending on which aspect was poor, it could make a difference when they face certain teams looking to improve certain areas of offense.

    The same things is true for areas of the game that won't be worked on during the preaseason.

    Major cahnges, newplayers, etc. will get more work in the early preseason and as it gets closer to opening day, it becomes more about refining.

    Harbaugh and Carroll actually want to win these games when it comes down to it.

    Know that a coach isn't likely to try out a new offensive line or schemes while his star QB is under center, especially against a team working on the defensive line performance.

    The gameplans unfortunately don't usually last the whole game and shit can fall apart toward the end, spoiling spread bets. But that can happen in the regular season too.

    Be careful with the units in preseason, it's less a test of stats and edge and more a test of the ability to process a subjective side. It can also help prepare for the regular season.

    I could go on, position by position and what the patterns are for most of how those positions or groups of positions get worked, or not worked, on in the preseason. It also gets a better looking at the coaches as well.

    Betting preseason can be rewarding but patience is necessary to get the right matchup and defining value has to be done in a relative market way. How to determine that value is not something I think I've gone i over in the Forum, but I have done quite a bit on preseason analysis here....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brock Landers View Post
    KVB, you're a sharp guy. But if your saying there's one true way to wager of handicap or whatever you want to call it, you're full of shit.

    Also, preseason is 3 games now and almost all starters are sitting entire games, these are absolutely pointless exercises.

    You can win money, but it's nowhere near what you're trying to make it out to be
    I didn't make it out to be anything.

    I don't think you're really even paying attention here, Brock.

    I'm teaching you something you did not know.

    I am not selling it nor am I over selling it, I'm showing you how to approach it. At least one way.

    It's ok, successful betting and it's approaches are not for everyone. It takes work that many, like you, may not want to apply.

    I've posted this before but virtually every poster, virtually, would rather claim it's impossible to win than put in the work to show it's a false claim. I guess it's just easier for them, and must make them feel better.

    For SBR as a whole, and Player's Talk, it's amazing how many posters who don't bet meaningfully bet seem to know so much about those who do and how they do it....

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    You're not teaching me or telling me anything I don't know pal

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    KVB owned again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brock Landers View Post
    You're not teaching me or telling me anything I don't know pal
    Quote Originally Posted by Brock Landers View Post
    Why are you talking about starters? Why are you talking about capping 2nd and 3rd stringers? Why are you talking about trends?

    Of course I didn't teach you anything you don't know, because you didn't pay attention. You didn't read a single thing.

    Unreal.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    KVB owned again
    Yes of course, owned by Brock Landers. The gus is worried about starters and 3rd stringers for preseason games.



    Here Gold, let me give you a tip that is more for you guys, trends. You guys like trends.

    But I'll do you one better and add my advice to your trend.

    If you have a road dog getting 2.5 or 3 points, follow my advice linked above to determine whether or not you should make a moneyline bet on the underdog. Don't worry about value on the moneyline, the market will take care of that for you with the spread.

    I wouldn't do it against Pete Carrol, John Harbaugh, or John Gruden though, you should treat those guiys differently, if you do find a line that low against them.


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    Gold, please link one post at all of SBR that shows Brock Landers has ever bet professionally or meaningfully on sports.

    Just one post. It can be math, advice, a post about sportsbooks, anything.

    Show me one post. While I've seen plenty implying he doesn't, I've never seen one implying he does. This is not an attack on Brock, it's a challenge to find a post.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    Why are you talking about starters? Why are you talking about capping 2nd and 3rd stringers? Why are you talking about trends?

    Of course I didn't teach you anything you don't know, because you didn't pay attention. You didn't read a single thing.

    Unreal.

    Record a voice message and tell me what I'm doing wrong pal, you like to talk in code and avoid answering questions directly

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    Brock, you're not even in the conversation.

    You're worried about starters and 2nd stringers, you aren't even paying attention, literally changing the topic of capping pre season.

    You might not realize it because you never even read the posts relating to the topic.

    So either pay attention and get caught up or go waste time elsewhere.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    Brock, you're not even in the conversation.

    You're worried about starters and 2nd stringers, you aren't even paying attention, literally changing the topic of capping pre season.

    You might not realize it because you never even read the posts relating to the topic.

    So either pay attention and get caught up or go waste time elsewhere.

    Nope, you tell me where I'm wrong and/or what point I'm missing.

    No more double talk pal

    Put it in a voice message, easy to understand, ya folla?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brock Landers View Post
    Nope, you tell me where I'm wrong and/or what point I'm missing.

    No more double talk pal

    Put it in a voice message, easy to understand, ya folla?

    For one, it's not about capping the players.

    For two, you aren't even trying to learn anything.

    For three, it's not about capping the players.

    For four, it's not about capping the players.

    For five it's not about capping the players.

    For six, your thinking is stuck in a box.

    For seven, you didn't even read what I linked.

    For eight, if you did read it, why are an idiot still talking about capping players?

    Is that clear enough for you?

    I'm not even going to listen to whatever audio you put in post 20.

    Here, for double talk let me post it all again...

    For one, it's not about capping the players.

    For two, you aren't even trying to learn anything.

    For three, it's not about capping the players.

    For four, it's not about capping the players.

    For five it's not about capping the players.

    For six, your thinking is stuck in a box.

    For seven, you didn't even read what I linked.

    For eight, if you did read it, why are an idiot still talking about capping players?

    Is that clear enough for you?

    I'm not even going to listen to whatever audio you put in post 20.

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    I agree with with KVB about the coaches...I remember back in the day when Don Shula didn't give a crap about winning in the pre season...it was all about player development and other things.

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    I'm starting to see why the entire Forum thinks your an idiot Brock, something I never subscribed to or understood.

    You must have gone out of your way to earn their disrespect.

    Geeez.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    For one, it's not about capping the players.

    For two, you aren't even trying to learn anything.

    For three, it's not about capping the players.

    For four, it's not about capping the players.

    For five it's not about capping the players.

    For six, your thinking is stuck in a box.

    For seven, you didn't even read what I linked.

    For eight, if you did read it, why are an idiot still talking about capping players?

    Is that clear enough for you?

    I'm not even going to listen to whatever audio you put in post 20.

    Here, for double talk let me post it all again...

    For one, it's not about capping the players.

    For two, you aren't even trying to learn anything.

    For three, it's not about capping the players.

    For four, it's not about capping the players.

    For five it's not about capping the players.

    For six, your thinking is stuck in a box.

    For seven, you didn't even read what I linked.

    For eight, if you did read it, why are an idiot still talking about capping players?

    Is that clear enough for you?

    I'm not even going to listen to whatever audio you put in post 20.
    Bullshit

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    Quote Originally Posted by CappinTerp View Post
    I agree with with KVB about the coaches...I remember back in the day when Don Shula didn't give a crap about winning in the pre season...it was all about player development and other things.
    Yes.

    That's what preseason is for. If watch the preseason with a certain perspective, in time you will be able to "cap" it and make what should be decent bets.

    It's not automatic, but understanding the motiviation matters.

    Worrying about how long the starters and backups play in week 1 and 2 of preseason is absolutely the wrong approach.

    So to say preseason betting is impossible or not approachable on the basis of not being able to cap that, is also wrong.


    It's about the bettor's angle and perspective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    Yes.

    That's what preseason is for. If watch the preseason with a certain perspective, in time you will be able to "cap" it and make what should be decent bets.

    It's not automatic, but understanding the motiviation matters.

    Worrying about how long the starters and backups play in week 1 and 2 of preseason is absolutely the wrong approach.

    So to say preseason betting is impossible or not approachable on the basis of not being able to cap that, is also wrong.


    It's about the bettor's angle and perspective.
    The 4th quarter usually decides all these games and with that comes players you never would ever want your money dependant on. That's a fact

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