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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    Futures are sucker bets. Your money is locked up for 7 months.
    Which is why you play them with a credit account.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunShard View Post
    If the regular season haven't started then sportsbooks should refund bets if a player retires or dies.
    My thoughts exactly. Is there a difference between abruptly retiring and abruptly dying when it comes to futures bets??

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    If the books are requiring that the player is active in week 1 for action, then they should refund after week 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seaborneq View Post
    My thoughts exactly. Is there a difference between abruptly retiring and abruptly dying when it comes to futures bets??
    But whatís the difference in abruptly tearing your acl? Obviously easier on your family than the dying, but for gambling purposes it effectively the same thing. Iím glad he got money back but still donít feel as if everyone roasting the book when it appeared they might not refund was fair, donít think they should be obligated in this instance unless it stated in rules ďa player must play week 1Ē..,

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    futures mainly for squares

    Why tie up money??
    Whatever coach.Guess my L city 5000-1 bet was dumb huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyivan24 View Post
    Bodog/Bovada are informing that Andrew Luck futures such as to win MVP are “season wagers and must wait till the end of the series to be settled.”
    This sounds stupid to me; it should be no action.What are other sports books doing? Void or holding my money until end of season?

    Just curious. Bodog seems silly for making me hold a ticket entire season, sounds like a negative freeroll for me.

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    Actually it should be a loss. Future bets have action, retirements do not change that. Now SOME books are refunding wagers as a goodwill gesture, but those that are doing so are refunding immediately. Fact that Bodog is keeping bet open indicates it has action and will therefore be a loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    Actually it should be a loss. Future bets have action, retirements do not change that. Now SOME books are refunding wagers as a goodwill gesture, but those that are doing so are refunding immediately. Fact that Bodog is keeping bet open indicates it has action and will therefore be a loss.
    Finally someone in here talking sense besides banker!! You missed it tho, believe they refunded it for him. After all kinds of mean post talking as if they were somehow cheating op.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    Finally someone in here talking sense besides banker!! You missed it tho, believe they refunded it for him. After all kinds of mean post talking as if they were somehow cheating op.
    Right, I did not read the whole thread and did not realize that Bovada joined the Goodwill Parade, so the OP was very fortunate. I guess my main point though is that wager is technically a loss and books are not obligated to give refunds.

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    With or without Luck, Colts wasnít beating KC or the patriots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    Right, I did not read the whole thread and did not realize that Bovada joined the Goodwill Parade, so the OP was very fortunate. I guess my main point though is that wager is technically a loss and books are not obligated to give refunds.
    Totally agree. I woulda went all 5d tony on them!! acting like they were being cheated until getting a refund. Iíve seen what I consider far more unfair rulings on things than grading this play a loss which it was. I donít want anyone to lose but not sure I thought they deserved good will refund after way they talked about book before the charity case desicion.

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    It's not Goodwill. The rule should never have existed. It's a sham. Legit operation should have never adopted such a fuk you player attitude in the first place. Principle don't play, principle can't win. If word came down that MVP winner was rigged via cheating voters, Sports book would have no problem voiding action wager. Get the fuk out of here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The General View Post
    It's not Goodwill. The rule should never have existed. It's a sham. Legit operation should have never adopted such a fuk you player attitude in the first place. Principle don't play, principle can't win. If word came down that MVP winner was rigged via cheating voters, Sports book would have no problem voiding action wager. Get the fuk out of here.
    Nonsense. You take a guy in preseason that hasnít practiced all year then think when he doesnít play you should get a refund. Mystery injury caused him to not participate in any off season drills or one preseason practice but that had no influence on his odds? You bet a mvp future part way thru the preseason you obviously made a conscious decision to forgo injury risk cause you felt you were getting a favorable number.. should lamar Miller mvp futures be refunded? How about Jimmy g after he inevitably leaves early in week 1? If Zeke holdout continues???

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    Quote Originally Posted by The General View Post
    It's not Goodwill. The rule should never have existed. It's a sham. Legit operation should have never adopted such a fuk you player attitude in the first place. Principle don't play, principle can't win. If word came down that MVP winner was rigged via cheating voters, Sports book would have no problem voiding action wager. Get the fuk out of here.
    This is no different than betting a Kentucky Derby future months in advance and losing because the horse does not run, or losing a player to a torn ACL during preseason. Unless a book has a stipulation such as a player must be active for Week 1 or something like that, all future wagers have Action, it is as simple as that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    This is no different than betting a Kentucky Derby future months in advance and losing because the horse does not run, or losing a player to a torn ACL during preseason. Unless a book has a stipulation such as a player must be active for Week 1 or something like that, all future wagers have Action, it is as simple as that.
    Are they gonna give back Zeke futures if this goes into the season? Of course not. Did anyone get a refund on Bell last year? Not likely. Letís call it like it is, charity to appease crying degenerates who will find another way to lose it anyways., this actually a situation where i miss guy like 5d Tony, he woulda put that bs to rest!! Lol

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    Bodog did the right thing... Done and done

    lock thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    Bodog did the rightcourteous thing... Done and done

    lock thread
    Fixed,

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    Yes, online gambling sports books have a huge history of being courteous. They did the right thing because they knew it was the right thing. They aren't known to be charitable. It was never in doubt they would settle fairly. The doubt comes from having the rule in the first place. If not for communication technology such as the internet they'd be counting the money from such sham.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    Finally someone in here talking sense besides banker
    i guess you missed my post

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    i guess you missed my post
    https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...l#post28854124

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    i guess you missed my post
    Kinda got lost in with kvb chastising you for I couldnít figure out why? Lol.

    Anyways, i stand corrected. Rudy made sense 1st!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The General View Post
    Yes, online gambling sports books have a huge history of being courteous. They did the right thing because they knew it was the right thing. They aren't known to be charitable. It was never in doubt they would settle fairly. The doubt comes from having the rule in the first place. If not for communication technology such as the internet they'd be counting the money from such sham.
    Not sure what you are saying here. Futures markets are supposed to be "All-in". i.e., all bets have action unless there is some qualifying stipulation and the vast majority of books have no such clause for MVP wagers. Thus, bets on Luck are rightfully a LOSS, that is not even an arguable point. So yes, books giving refunds are indeed being courteous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    Kinda got lost in with kvb chastising you for I couldn’t figure out why? Lol.

    Anyways, i stand corrected. Rudy made sense 1st!
    he does it once a week

    people consider him sharp which is mind boggling since he is always wrong when arguing with me

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    he does it once a week

    people consider him sharp which is mind boggling since he is always wrong when arguing with me
    I enjoy talking gambling/sports w kvb a great deal. He one my favorite posters honestly,

    that 1st one those exchanges Iíve noticed w you 2. I have no idea where he was going w that? I dunno if he misunderstood you or something was way over my head?

    I didnít take your post to be any kind of comment on the bet so when he started carrying on I didnít even get the point. Happens to the best of us, he might have been high, buzzed, overzealous to take shot at you, misunderstood your post. hell I dunno. I just let it slide as not one his better moments, I have them sometimes. lol.

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