[ABEHONEST]

for several months.
Big challenge and big question?

What NFL player is considered to be the GOAT?
* No cheating by studying NFL stats.

I want your opinion, right from the gut!

*Prove to me, this is not just another "Cult following website?"

Give me your #1, #2, and #3 choices, and see how close you come?

[chargers4222]

You're one to talk about cults.

[tony_come]

White QBs should run more rather than throwing the ball

[jtoler]

question is kind of silly man, would be one thing if you said by position.

[ABEHONEST]

Still waiting for inquiring minds?
Question?

Possible answer...a Cult member?

[ikid2groove415]

1.Montana 2.Brady 3.LT (Giants)

[RudyRuetigger]

i dont know that we have any master sports debaters

i do know half of the forum are master-baters though

[ABEHONEST]

1.Montana 2.Brady 3.LT (Giants)

Very good, but no, is the answer for #1. Even though I agree, Montana was the greatest QB. #2 is right on and LT is the best ever for the Giants.
This is what a survey of experts are saying.

[Venom72]

Because its football, its hard to have one overall "goat"

[TeddyB]

I've only been watching since the mid 90's so this is just an opinion with very little strength behind it. 1. Brady 2. Elway (the guy won back to back Super Bowls to end career) 3. Ray Lewis and 4. Randy Moss

My overall best for one game all or nothing is Farve.

[ABEHONEST]

I've only been watching since the mid 90's so this is just an opinion with very little strength behind it. 1. Brady 2. Elway (the guy won back to back Super Bowls to end career) 3. Ray Lewis and 4. Randy Moss

My overall best for one game all or nothing is Farve.

Elway is considered the best Denver Bronc, but's that's it.
One I firmly disagree on is for the Dolphin's greatest. No way for Marino. No SB's

[ikid2groove415]

Very good, but no, is the answer for #1. Even though I agree, Montana was the greatest QB. #2 is right on and LT is the best ever for the Giants.
This is what a survey of experts are saying.

Who’s better then joe cool? 4-0 in the super bowl 127.8 qb rating - never threw a INT in 122 attempts - sorry I did cheat too back up my man joe

[jtoler]

a qb who only throws isnt gonna be a the greatest imo especially since this is a contact sport sorry abraham too many different positions that do different things youre not gonna get a correct answer

[ikid2groove415]

Elway is considered the best Denver Bronc, but's that's it.
One I firmly disagree on is for the Dolphin's greatest. No way for Marino. No SB's

Child please - Montana crush elway 55-10 in the super bowl - elway did not win till the great Terrell Davis came too Denver

[ABEHONEST]

Opps

[ABEHONEST]

a qb who only throws isnt gonna be a the greatest imo especially since this is a contact sport sorry abraham too many different positions that do different things youre not gonna get a correct answer

Hmm, forever the rebel.
PICK your choice, screw the experts. The GOAT, just as you would pick the most influential basketball, baseball?

[jtoler]

Hmm, forever the rebel.
PICK your choice, screw the experts. The GOAT, just as you would pick the most influential basketball, baseball?

players typically do the same thing in those sports at least offensively except pitchers, football too many positions that do different things. why cant the goat be a beast O-lineman or defensive end, just saying. qb, only guy on team that does the specific thing that he does, thats kinda discriminatory so just think by position makes more sense.

[ABEHONEST]

Super Bowl tidbit.
The only undefeated Super Bowl winners:
4 - Terry Brandshaw, Joe Montana
3 - Troy Aikman
2 - Bart Starr, Jim Plunkett, Ben Roethlisberger (bah)

[Venom72]

players typically do the same thing in those sports at least offensively except pitchers, football too many positions that do different things. why cant the goat be a beast O-lineman or defensive end, just saying. qb, only guy on team that does the specific thing that he does, thats kinda discriminatory so just think by position makes more sense.

This^^

[MadTiger]

Old era: Jim Brown
Modern era: Jerry Rice (but you could put out five other names and I wouldn't argue)

[THam12]

Stfu

[cincinnatikid513]

i can tell you if your rating worst posters your in my top 3 abe

[Hman]

1. Tom Brady - no-brainer

2. Barry Sanders - Would be NFL's all-time rusher if he hadn't retired. We've yet to see a player as exciting or who single-handedly made defenses look foolish. The Michael Jordan of RB's.

3. Tossup between guys like Joe Montana, Walter Payton, Jerry Rice, and others.

[RudyRuetigger]

i can tell you if your rating worst posters your in my top 3 abe

exactly

this thread has NOTHING to do with sports betting

[Mr KLC]

Peyton Manning. Never saw a player do more with less talent, player or coaching wise. It can be debatable that we might have never held Tom Brady or Joe Montana in the esteem we do now without them having Bill Belichick and Bill Walsh respectively. Manning was consistent, no matter who the coach, or the talent around him was. Manning's importance showed in the era between him and Andrew Luck. The Colts had no leadership on the field, or true direction.

The fact that Peyton was able to come back from a serious injury, and become the only starting quarterback to win a Super Bowl with two different teams shows his perseverance and true competitiveness. How many times did you NOT see him looking at overhead photos of formations on the sideline while the defense was on the field? The man was always locked in. He was a better coach on the field than the head coach on the sidelines.

[THam12]

Give us a winner, guy.

[ikid2groove415]

Peyton Manning. Never saw a player do more with less talent, player or coaching wise. It can be debatable that we might have never held Tom Brady or Joe Montana in the esteem we do now without them having Bill Belichick and Bill Walsh respectively. Manning was consistent, no matter who the coach, or the talent around him was. Manning's importance showed in the era between him and Andrew Luck. The Colts had no leadership on the field, or true direction.

The fact that Peyton was able to come back from a serious injury, and become the only starting quarterback to win a Super Bowl with two different teams shows his perseverance and true competitiveness. How many times did you NOT see him looking at overhead photos of formations on the sideline while the defense was on the field? The man was always locked in. He was a better coach on the field than the head coach on the sidelines.

Peyton lost too many big games - Montana Super Bowl stats is flawless fella

[SsgKen]

A question on a vote? I am sorry we will not have Senator Franken and Jill Stein running for president/vice on the Franken-Stein ticket.

Hello all. New poster.

[ABEHONEST]

exactly

this thread has NOTHING to do with sports betting

Please don't make me degrade you as a whiner?
I mean, look around, Fido.

[Hman]

A question on a vote? I am sorry we will not have Senator Franken and Jill Stein running for president/vice on the Franken-Stein ticket.

Hello all. New poster.

Welcome aboard Ken

[cincinnatikid513]

saloon this garbage,


guy tries to manipulate the title of thread to pretend to talk about sports

[ABEHONEST]

Stfu

Cultest?

[ABEHONEST]

saloon this garbage,


guy tries to manipulate the title of thread to pretend to talk about sports

Don't have me degrade your status down to a whiner? Look around and see if you can find some more saloon type sht? And when you do, get right down to doing what you do best. Thanks anyway for nothing, though.
Another rebel.

[ABEHONEST]

Old era: Jim Brown
Modern era: Jerry Rice (but you could put out five other names and I wouldn't argue)

You're right there. Totally your opinion?

[Harry N. Lloyd]

What's next--A Lebron versus Jordan discussion?