[jjgold]

William Hill already has contract

Betfair in NJ already

[BriGuy]

Offshore will still be king. Go to Vegas and compare every bet you make with the big boys (Bookmaker, Heritage, 5Dimes) and you will make 90%+ of your bets offshore. Better lines, less juice, more sports to bet, more props.

What exactly does "better lines" even mean? The line is the line. Sometimes I can squeeze an half a point using one book over another, but that doesn't make their line "better."

[Darkside Magick]

What exactly does "better lines" even mean? The line is the line. Sometimes I can squeeze an half a point using one book over another, but that doesn't make their line "better."

Their is a BIG difference if one line is -110 and I get the same line at -104

[jjgold]

Massive difference
-110 bettor has no shot vs -104 bettor

Their is a BIG difference if one line is -110 and I get the same line at -104

[El Nino]

What exactly does "better lines" even mean? The line is the line. Sometimes I can squeeze an half a point using one book over another, but that doesn't make their line "better."

So, you like the fav in a certain college football game. One book is offering -7 one is offering -6.5 same juice. Which line is better for your wager?

20 cent MLB & NHL lines vs. 10 cent lines
-115 juice on live betting vs. -110
-105 juice on spreads vs. -110
Vegas Futures odds vs. Offshore

Vegas gets consistently crushed by offshore in the examples above. Your state's casino/racebook will be something to reference but it will not be competitive with offshore nor will it create a more efficient market. If btc gets clamped down on, then I could see bettors getting quick cash and sacrificing juice vs. waiting for a dodgy Canadian check in the mail. Squares will get roped in during NFL season, sharps will still bet offshore.

[Plaza23]

Which is fine. How do more options and more competition hurt anyone?

I would argue that because of pure convenience it'll require offshore or locals to make their product that much more enticing. WIN WIN WIN for us

When US players have a viable US option, then offshores will treat US players way better than they have previously.

[BriGuy]

Their is a BIG difference if one line is -110 and I get the same line at -104

I don't consider that a line, that's juice.

[BriGuy]

So, you like the fav in a certain college football game. One book is offering -7 one is offering -6.5 same juice. Which line is better for your wager?

Yes I get it but that doesn't make sense to the statement made.

The statement was made that "offshore books have better lines." A sportsbook with the better line on Game A might have the worse line on Game B.

I play on Bookmaker.eu and their lines and juice are no different than any Vegas casino I've been to (and I've been to most of 'em). I don't know where people are saying BM.eu has less juice.... they charge you -110 on a typical play just like everyone else.

Yes, offshore books tend to have more options, but mostly on stuff I don't care about anyway. I am not a big prop bettor. Give me side, total, and the occasional 2nd half line.

[jjgold]

Overall Offshore 10x better than Vegas

Any serious player in Vegas has offshore accounts

[StackinGreen]

Massive difference
-110 bettor has no shot vs -104 bettor

Yup, 52.38% vs 50.98% to break even, long term that's a big difference indeed.

[TheMoneyShot]

Offshore is the king so far.

Only difference is... people like cash in hand... and the thrill of winning in person. Only reason to wager in Vegas etc.