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    Trump is going to lay his hands on ObamaCare and Rs are going to love it. They will wind up fighting for it when it begins to collapse and the Dems offer Medicare For All.

    If Trump keeps the ban on pre-existing conditions and does not have a mandate and penalty, the insurance companies will go bankrupt and their stock prices will plummet. Insurance premiums will skyrocket.

    He's going to have to get rid of pre-existing conditions and then lose the 2020 election or put poor people on govt healthcare. The healthcare system was coming apart when ObamaCare got implemented and it is going to unravel immediately once the mandate goes away.

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    This how how repeal of ObamaCare is going to work. It is going to be changed and everybody is going to celebrate.

    Then the next year, they are going to get their insurance and it is going to cost 20% more with a higher deductible. And they are going to say; "What the fukk is this???"

    Then the next year is going to be another 20% higher and a higher deductible and they are going to say: "What the FUKK IS THIS????"

    Then the next year it will be another 20% higher and they will say: "WHAT THE FUKK????"

    Then another 20% and then they are just going to be pissed and vote for anybody that will offer anything different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Electrons View Post
    He is a centrist.

    Trump is not going to be the nut he was on campaign.
    WTF Electrons

    Trump says you have to be rich to be great. Well not going to happen with a broke dik like you buddy. Way to Welch on bets.

    He also said your word is everything. I guess we won't see your grand donation as promised.

    GTFO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Electrons View Post
    He is a centrist.

    Trump is not going to be the nut he was on campaign.
    Your a welcher and broke dik.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Trump will do nothing m
    He might get some shit done Lakey. Democrats already said they will try to work with him. Good ole Mitch Mcconnel the leader of the Republicans on day one, when Obama was elected, said the number one goal was to get Obama out of office. This is why it is stunning that these shitbags get 1 vote let alone half but we are a nation of jackasses. To have a leader of your party say fuk the country and the people and lets just try to get back in power and to have a nation of nitwits buy into it, is flat out stunning. Now all these shitbags for eight years said the first thing they need to do is get rid of Obama care and lo and behold they are going back on the word once again of course. Heck Trump did say he could open up fire on his cult followers and they were still stupid enuf to vote for him. Geeez i thought he was joking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalo Nickle View Post
    This how how repeal of ObamaCare is going to work. It is going to be changed and everybody is going to celebrate.

    Then the next year, they are going to get their insurance and it is going to cost 20% more with a higher deductible. And they are going to say; "What the fukk is this???"

    Then the next year is going to be another 20% higher and a higher deductible and they are going to say: "What the FUKK IS THIS????"

    Then the next year it will be another 20% higher and they will say: "WHAT THE FUKK????"

    Then another 20% and then they are just going to be pissed and vote for anybody that will offer anything different.
    dude no way this happens. It could go up 100 percent in six months and these guys will be okay with it because Trump will tell these dip shits it is an amazing plan. One of the most terrific plans a president has ever dropped on the people. His cult is second to none. I hope his grad plan is to get these fuks following him like the pigeons that they are and walks them right off the cliff. Or maybe make them a special batch of koolaid. Trump did say he loves the uneducated. Some of these assholes think that since they go to college they are what is described as an educated voter. The bag lady down the corner who knows the issues is more educated than a college student studying for one goal and it sure the hell isn't politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itchypickle View Post
    He and his advisors have stated this already.

    Preexisting conditions clause stays

    Medicaid stays

    Employer mandate goes away

    Crossing state lines to compare prices goes in

    Tax penalty goes away

    Health savings and tax benefits are in
    That is reasonable. I would add that the government regulate more closely on what doctors and hospitals can charge and step in and take the risk out of the claims like they do with prescription drug plans (Part D) for people on medicare.

    The main complaint from America now is they do not want the premiums to go up so much each year. Well, we cannot expect the insurance companies to take a loss and we cannot expect the providers to go in the red because they cannot collect their bill. But, we can expect there to be fairness in how much they charge and how much their margin is.
    Last edited by BuckyOne; 11-17-16 at 10:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    Explain
    doctors convince patients they need treatment for stuff that they really don't need. doctors need customers. people actually believe you have to follow doctors orders. pretty much a scam. as far as the penalty for not buying health insurance is not enforceable unless you have a tax return due you. just pay in less so you don't get a tax return. comparing paying health insurance premiums to social security is ludicrous. personally never spent .01 on health insurance and never will.

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    The ass backwards rethuglicans will kill the part that actually pays for the program, which is the mandate and penalty. The fuckwads are really bad at math. That is why a majority of the national debt is the result of their unpaid for programs. i.e. Medicare Part D, tax cuts for the rich and 2 wars under their hero GWB.

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    Who were the idiots that are currently mad that he wants to change Obamacare?
    Obamacare was a disaster for the working class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor4140 View Post
    dude no way this happens. It could go up 100 percent in six months and these guys will be okay with it because Trump OBAMA will tell these dip shits it is an amazing plan. One of the most terrific plans a president has ever dropped on the people. His cult is second to none. I hope his grad plan is to get these fuks following him like the pigeons that they are and walks them right off the cliff. Or maybe make them a special batch of koolaid. Trump did say he loves the uneducated. Some of these assholes think that since they go to college they are what is described as an educated voter. The bag lady down the corner who knows the issues is more educated than a college student studying for one goal and it sure the hell isn't politics.
    This is exactly the description of some of the current Obama-nut-huggers
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    Quote Originally Posted by eidolon View Post
    Who were the idiots that are currently mad that he wants to change Obamacare?
    Obamacare was a disaster for the working class.
    Explain to us how this was a disaster and the old program was so special. U hear this shit 24 7 on right wing radio and Fox News doesn't mean u have to be so stupid to believe their bullshit they are spreading. u fuks will believe everything as long as the right con artist gets your ear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shafted69 View Post
    The ass backwards rethuglicans will kill the part that actually pays for the program, which is the mandate and penalty. The fuckwads are really bad at math. That is why a majority of the national debt is the result of their unpaid for programs. i.e. Medicare Part D, tax cuts for the rich and 2 wars under their hero GWB.
    stop it with the tax cuts for the rich bullshittt. You don't even know the tax laws, hell you probably don't even know what tax bracket you're in! The debt grows partially because the illegal alien population grows. Entitlements like welfare and housing (hud) to name a couple. Thats not counting 150 billion handed over to Iran and billions to other countries as well. Then there is the thieves in DC. 110 million people in the US are getting some kind of government assistance excluding veteran's. Thats out of a population of 300 million. How long do you think that can continue? Instead you are pathetically still buying that richest one percent line. You're a brainwashed knucklehead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor4140 View Post
    Explain to us how this was a disaster and the old program was so special. U hear this shit 24 7 on right wing radio and Fox News doesn't mean u have to be so stupid to believe their bullshit they are spreading. u fuks will believe everything as long as the right con artist gets your ear.
    1.) you can keep your doctor was a lie. 2.) companies started to cut employees hours to 30 or less to avoid having to pay higher premiums for insurance. 3.) It was to stop the stampede to emergency rooms by illegals which it does not. 4.) fining young people who make a nominal salary if they choose not to have healtcare. The rise in premiums is insane also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    That was pretty much an act, of course he'll be OK, plus there's this checks and balances thing, everybody needs to relax.
    Republicans are in control of Congress. He can virtually rubber-stamp through whatever he'd like.

    Unfortunately for the suckers looking for the true change he's promised, that means a lot of the traditional Republican bullshit from the traditional Republican bullshitters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irish1 View Post
    1.) you can keep your doctor was a lie. 2.) companies started to cut employees hours to 30 or less to avoid having to pay higher premiums for insurance. 3.) It was to stop the stampede to emergency rooms by illegals which it does not. 4.) fining young people who make a nominal salary if they choose not to have healtcare. The rise in premiums is insane also.
    There are actually people who still defend this absolute disaster of a program.
    Laughable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    Republicans are in control of Congress. He can virtually rubber-stamp through whatever he'd like.

    Unfortunately for the suckers looking for the true change he's promised, that means a lot of the traditional Republican bullshit from the traditional Republican bullshitters.
    Hey all I wanted was Hillary and her 100,000 syrian refugee friends to take a hike and they did. Now conservative supreme court justices, repeal obamacare, bring back jobs, control immigration and rebuild the infrastructure will be an added bonus. Obama is letting thousands of syrian's come over here as we speak. That obama trash days are running out and good riddens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor4140 View Post
    dude no way this happens. It could go up 100 percent in six months and these guys will be okay with it because Trump will tell these dip shits it is an amazing plan. One of the most terrific plans a president has ever dropped on the people. His cult is second to none. I hope his grad plan is to get these fuks following him like the pigeons that they are and walks them right off the cliff. Or maybe make them a special batch of koolaid. Trump did say he loves the uneducated. Some of these assholes think that since they go to college they are what is described as an educated voter. The bag lady down the corner who knows the issues is more educated than a college student studying for one goal and it sure the hell isn't politics.
    Jackoffs like you are so pissed that Trump won, and this is what makes it so great for us. The angrier you get and the more you melt down the more it makes me laugh.

    Make America Great Again!!!!

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    Maga

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    It'll be easy to "make america great" since it already is great. We just got to hope that america will still be great after trump. 50/50.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pilebuck13 View Post
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