were is all the lebron better then jordan kids now

[Eddy Munny]

This is a horrible post. Wrong, wrong and more wrong on every point. I don't even know where to start on this baseless assertion but you are very wrong. There is not 1 thing truthful in your post. Please stop it.

Yeah, you don't know where to start...... and I noticed you didn't, so why bother commenting?

[raiders72001]

Jordan was on teams that allowed him to flourish because he had guys around him that were stalwarts and did the little things right that win basketball games.... defense, rebounding, timely buckets etc. Jordan really wasn't asked to guard the opponent's best player because that assignment was usually given to Scottie Pippen, who was one of the best, most versatile defenders ever.

Lebron doesn't have that luxury. If a guy on the other team proves unstoppable, Lebron inevitably draws that as his primary defensive responsibility. Oh and by the way, could you go out there and clean up the glass and drop 30 while you're at it? It's a lot to ask of one guy. Basketball is a TEAM sport. No matter how you spin it, one guy cannot go out and defeat five. Did anybody bother to chip in for the Heat besides Lebron? Bosh is far too finesse and Wade was an absolute nightmare this series. They have zero presence in the paint.

The Heat are not a good team. If you remove James, this hodgepodge roster of has-beens probably doesn't make the playoffs. They were good enough to get two rings when Wade and Chalmers actually had a pulse, but this team was exposed by a more talented, deeper, better coached Spurs squad. Does anybody really think Jordan in James's place would have yielded a different result? Nonsense.... Jordan would have been just jacking up shots while facing double and triple teams. And Jordan's presence would have done nothing to shore up the shitty defense that plagued the Heat all series.

2014 Heat = 2007 Cavs

Worst post of the thread. Jordan was always doubled. He just jumped over or faded away if necessary. His vertical was so good he would just go straight up and you couldn't block it.

[MoneyLineDawg]

Maybe if Lebron didn't run his mouth and make bold predictions, he wouldn't get so much shit.

It is no different than the wanna-be touts on here getting slapped around after their guaranteed plays lose.

He deserves the funny pictures of him crying and all of that....But when people actually start analyzing his game with a biased slant against him it just makes them look dumb

[Mac4Lyfe]

WTF? Bad team? The Heat made it to the finals 4 years in a row. They have the 3 best players in the NBA. How the hell can you say he had a bad team? Are you serious?

I don't blame Lebron for the loss because he was the best player on the Heat. He played his heart out. But don't spin this like the Heat suddenly became a garbage team. The Spurs just made them look that way. Spoelstra didn't have an answer and neither did the Big 3.

Because the Lebron haters don't want to admit that he had a bad team around him that couldn't stop a nosebleed on defense

Somehow they spin it as Lebron wasn't aggressive or some other garbage

[Mac4Lyfe]

Because that was a shitty post. It's not worth debating you on each point because it was really awful.

Yeah, you don't know where to start...... and I noticed you didn't, so why bother commenting?

[Eddy Munny]

LeBron isn't close to the defender as Jordan. Jordan was a defensive player of the year, lead the league in steals 3 years and is a better shot blocker.

But could Jordan guard a point guard all series, and then turn around and guard Karl Malone if asked to? Could he also be a leading rebounder and still have the wind to go out and score 30+? And would it even be enough if he didn't have competent teammates?

Stop it with this "Jordan was a better shot blocker" crap, it's a push. Is that really what you're going to hang your hat on? We've all seen James make many great blocks either in the paint, or to thwart a fast break. Don't try and sell me on Jordan's fractional sliver of an edge on the stat sheet. Use your eyes.

[MoneyLineDawg]

WTF? Bad team? The Heat made it to the finals 4 years in a row. They have the 3 best players in the NBA. How the hell can you say he had a bad team? Are you serious?

I don't blame Lebron for the loss because he was the best player on the Heat. He played his heart out. But don't spin this like the Heat suddenly became a garbage team. The Spurs just made them look that way. Spoelstra didn't have an answer and neither did the Big 3.

What are you talking about??? 3 best players in the NBA?? LOL, what??

Wade AT THIS POINT is an above-average player, nothing more

And the Heat making the finals 4 years in a row is because of Lebron primarily

[raiders72001]

Here's the jumper.

[MoneyLineDawg]

Because that was a shitty post. It's not worth debating you on each point because it was really awful.

Actually alot of the post was spot on.....Some of the Bulls stuff maybe not but his Lebron and Heat analysis was correct

[jtoler]

Jordan was on teams that allowed him to flourish because he had guys around him that were stalwarts and did the little things right that win basketball games.... defense, rebounding, timely buckets etc. Jordan really wasn't asked to guard the opponent's best player because that assignment was usually given to Scottie Pippen, who was one of the best, most versatile defenders ever.

Lebron doesn't have that luxury. If a guy on the other team proves unstoppable, Lebron inevitably draws that as his primary defensive responsibility. Oh and by the way, could you go out there and clean up the glass and drop 30 while you're at it? It's a lot to ask of one guy. Basketball is a TEAM sport. No matter how you spin it, one guy cannot go out and defeat five. Did anybody bother to chip in for the Heat besides Lebron? Bosh is far too finesse and Wade was an absolute nightmare this series. They have zero presence in the paint.

The Heat are not a good team. If you remove James, this hodgepodge roster of has-beens probably doesn't make the playoffs. They were good enough to get two rings when Wade and Chalmers actually had a pulse, but this team was exposed by a more talented, deeper, better coached Spurs squad. Does anybody really think Jordan in James's place would have yielded a different result? Nonsense.... Jordan would have been just jacking up shots while facing double and triple teams. And Jordan's presence would have done nothing to shore up the shitty defense that plagued the Heat all series.

2014 Heat = 2007 Cavs

Jordan 9 time All Defensive First Team, 1 Time Defensive Player Of The Year. First player in NBA history to record 200 steals and 100 blocks in a season. .

[Eddy Munny]

Because that was a shitty post. It's not worth debating you on each point because it was really awful.

Well that's kinda what we do here on message boards. So if it's not worth your time, go load the dishwasher.

[raiders72001]

Actually alot of the post was spot on.....Some of the Bulls stuff maybe not but his Lebron and Heat analysis was correct

Everything was wrong on the Bulls.

[Eddy Munny]

Mac4Lyfe, you can't be serious with the "3 best players" in the NBA comment.

Wade looked like D-leaguer this series.

I'll give you Wade for Pippen, Bosh for Rodman, Chalmers for Armstrong, and Rashard for any one of Jordan's centers.... and you see how basketball games are won. This Heat team is soft, soft, soft, Charmin quilted soft.

[jtoler]

But could Jordan guard a point guard all series, and then turn around and guard Karl Malone if asked to? Could he also be a leading rebounder and still have the wind to go out and score 30+? And would it even be enough if he didn't have competent teammates?

Stop it with this "Jordan was a better shot blocker" crap, it's a push. Is that really what you're going to hang your hat on? We've all seen James make many great blocks either in the paint, or to thwart a fast break. Don't try and sell me on Jordan's fractional sliver of an edge on the stat sheet. Use your eyes.

You do realize the guy Bron was primarily guarding won the Finals MVP dont you?

[raiders72001]

You do realize the guy Bron was primarily guarding won the Finals MVP dont you?

Leonard chewed up LeBron.

[Eddy Munny]

You do realize the guy Bron was primarily guarding won the Finals MVP dont you?

I realize Leonard got most of his points against other defenders. You notice Tony Parker was quiet tonight right? Guess why?

Do you remember Lebron's defensive prowess against Derrick Rose in the 2011 ECF?

Again, the Spurs just had far too many effective moving parts that work together like a well oiled machine. Nothing one man can do.

[raiders72001]

But could Jordan guard a point guard all series, and then turn around and guard Karl Malone if asked to? Could he also be a leading rebounder and still have the wind to go out and score 30+? And would it even be enough if he didn't have competent teammates?

Stop it with this "Jordan was a better shot blocker" crap, it's a push. Is that really what you're going to hang your hat on? We've all seen James make many great blocks either in the paint, or to thwart a fast break. Don't try and sell me on Jordan's fractional sliver of an edge on the stat sheet. Use your eyes.

If you watched the game you would realize that Jordan was the better shot blocker. Even in college he knocked his head off the backboard with a block.

[Eddy Munny]

Leonard chewed up LeBron.

Haters gonna hate. It would help if you actually understood the game you Cheetos munching, beer guzzling, armchair point guard.

[Eddy Munny]

Ok, so Jordan hit his head on the backboard in college, therefore he's a better shot blocker than James. You win...

[jtoler]

I realize Leonard got most of his points against other defenders. You notice Tony Parker was quiet tonight right? Guess why?

Do you remember Lebron's defensive prowess against Derrick Rose in the 2011 ECF?

Again, the Spurs just had far too many effective moving parts that work together like a well oiled machine. Nothing one man can do.

Man Cmon, Bron has what 7 or 8 inches on Parker not to mention arm length, Parker got many open looks was just missing until late when he was driving and scoring.

[Fidel_CashFlow]

Again, the Spurs just had far too many effective moving parts that work together like a well oiled machine. Nothing one man can do.

Ding! Ding! Ding!

[raiders72001]

Ok, so Jordan hit his head on the backboard in college, therefore he's a better shot blocker than James. You win...

Look at the stats at every age. Jordan is the better shot blocker. He gets up higher.

[Eddy Munny]

Look at the stats at every age. Jordan is the better shot blocker. He gets up higher.

You kinda sound like you're 12.

"He jumps higher... He does, I seen it. Jordan once hit his head on the backboard. He's a better shot blocker and stuff!"

[Kermit]

Lebron took 8 shots in the first quarter and 13 the rest of the game. He took over the game as soon as it started and should have kept with it.

[Eddy Munny]

Man Cmon, Bron has what 7 or 8 inches on Parker not to mention arm length, Parker got many open looks was just missing until late when he was driving and scoring.

The point is, it doesn't matter who Lebron guards because another guy will get the hot hand. He can't guard the whole freaking Spurs squad. Jordan was surrounded by competent defenders at the very least, and in some cases, Hall of Fame defenders.

Lebron could have gone out and scored, and scored, and scored again...... and the Heat still would have lost, because the Spurs were putting on an offensive clinic just about every possession.

[raiders72001]

Lebron took 8 shots in the first quarter and 13 the rest of the game. He took over the game as soon as it started and should have kept with it.

good post

[LearningTree]

LeBron hand picked his team. When they win LeBron, gets the credit. If they lose, it's his teammates.

Exactly. Listening to all the little pussies defending LeBron like he's their cult leader...ugh. It's so penetrating pathetic.

[jtoler]

The point is, it doesn't matter who Lebron guards because another guy will get the hot hand. He can't guard the whole freaking Spurs squad. Jordan was surrounded by competent defenders at the very least, and in some cases, Hall of Fame defenders.

Lebron could have gone out and scored, and scored, and scored again...... and the Heat still would have lost, because the Spurs were putting on an offensive clinic just about every possession.

No doubt, one guy wasnt gonna stop that offense, must admit though, what Bron was doing in 1st quarters some games, MJ was doing that the entire game.

[eidolon]

Lebron shot 57% and averaged 28 points a game (27 during the season)
Rest of the team shot 42%......
I don't really think Lebron was stopped

[oldscho0led]

Lebron looked great in this series because of stat padding when its garbage time. Not doing anything when it matters most (see Game 3&4). Too passive the whole series. Jordan, Bird, Kobe will do anything to keep this game close/win the game (shot more). Lebron just defers to his teammates and live and die whether his teammates will make the shot or not. Hell, if Lebron played just a lick of defense on Kawhi, it wouldn't be this bad. You just see Kawhi blowing by on Lebron, even guys like Mills and Green.

Lebron is a great player, no doubt, but nowhere near the player Jordan, Bird, Duncan, Kobe is...

[THam12]

Where*

[bigtymer56]

Lebron looked great in this series because of stat padding when its garbage time. Not doing anything when it matters most (see Game 3&4). Too passive the whole series. Jordan, Bird, Kobe will do anything to keep this game close/win the game (shot more). Lebron just defers to his teammates and live and die whether his teammates will make the shot or not. Hell, if Lebron played just a lick of defense on Kawhi, it wouldn't be this bad. You just see Kawhi blowing by on Lebron, even guys like Mills and Green.

Lebron is a great player, no doubt, but nowhere near the player Jordan, Bird, Duncan, Kobe is...

Kobe on this team would be great entertainment. Probably wouldve made Bosh cry, got in a fight with Wade and Chamlers, bad mouthed Spolestra, took 40 shots in game 4, then 10 in game 5.

[MoneyLineDawg]

"Nowhere near the player Kobe is...."

I don't care how much you hate Lebron but comments like this are a fukkin joke

Just be fair is all I ask the haters

[MoneyLineDawg]

Lebron looked great in this series because of stat padding when its garbage time. Not doing anything when it matters most (see Game 3&4). Too passive the whole series. Jordan, Bird, Kobe will do anything to keep this game close/win the game (shot more). Lebron just defers to his teammates and live and die whether his teammates will make the shot or not. Hell, if Lebron played just a lick of defense on Kawhi, it wouldn't be this bad. You just see Kawhi blowing by on Lebron, even guys like Mills and Green.

Lebron is a great player, no doubt, but nowhere near the player Jordan, Bird, Duncan, Kobe is...

They lost by 15+ points 4 times....An aggressive Lebron makes up for this?

It was Lebron vs 10 deep...No one on the Heat bothered to show up

[ChalkyDog]

LeBron will never be on Jordan's level at any point in his career.

The comparisons are a slight to Thee GOAT.