were is all the lebron better then jordan kids now

[Kermit]

I grew up in the 90s and MJ was unreal

Lebron is an amazing player in his own right though

They don't even have similar styles so why do we always have to compare them?

Their drama level.

[MoneyLineDawg]

dummy- Get it through your head. LeBron is a front runner. There isn't any toughness. He should be the greatest player of all time because of his physical abilities but is mentally weak.

Fine he's mentally weak.....And he's still one of the best ever at 29

Next?

[Kermit]

Reggie Miller

[Walulu]

It's useless. Their is truly no objectivity when hate is involved.

[MoneyLineDawg]

LeBron isn't close to top 5. Watch some tape of Wilt, Kareem, Jordan, Bird, Magic.

You are obviously just a blind Lebron hater...Just a waste of time to argue someone as clueless as you

Lebron not even in Larry Bird's class.....Bookies must love you

Goodnight

[raiders72001]

You are obviously just a blind Lebron hater...Just a waste of time to argue someone as clueless as you

Lebron not even in Larry Bird's class.....Bookies must love you

Goodnight

Dummy- Look at the stats at 29. Bird is better.

[Mac4Lyfe]

I enjoy watching great players play. I enjoy watching Lebron play but remember Lebron himself created the hype machine proclaiming himself King before he had a crown. He even had "Chosen 1" tattooed on his arm. The media has tried to spin this into an argument that can't be won either way but draws hits on their websites.

Young kids throw out Lebron's name as the greatest because he's all they know. Old school folks get pissed off because they remember the other greats. Young guys didn't see Jordan or Wilt or Elgin Baylor or Bill Russell or Magic or Bird. Young guys don't know how Magic and Bird saved the NBA, they don't remember how Jordan took the game internationally, they definitely don't know how half the entire world have owned a pair of Air Jordan's.

Although I didn't see Baylor, Russell or Wilt, I can appreciate them all.

Lebron is great
MJ was great

lets stop acting like thick idiots and enjoy the nba

no fukk cares who is better

[raiders72001]

At 29 years of age Bird had more Rebounds, Assists and Steals per game than LeBron at 29. Pts scored was 25.8 to 27.1

[MoneyLineDawg]

I enjoy watching great players play. I enjoy watching Lebron play but remember Lebron himself created the hype machine proclaiming himself King before he had a crown. He even had "Chosen 1" tattooed on his arm. The media has tried to spin this into an argument that can't be won either way but draws hits on their websites.

Young kids throw out Lebron's name as the greatest because he's all they know. Old school folks get pissed off because they remember the other greats. Young guys didn't see Jordan or Wilt or Elgin Baylor or Bill Russell or Magic or Bird. Young guys don't know how Magic and Bird saved the NBA, they don't remember how Jordan took the game internationally, they definitely don't know how half the entire world have owned a pair of Air Jordan's.

Although I didn't see Baylor, Russell or Wilt, I can appreciate them all.

All that hype stuff means nothing if you're talking strictly basketball and trying to compare talents

All of those guys are some of the best ever but the Lebron haters will try to act like he doesn't even belong in the same breath....I think the Lebron fans are more rational than the haters

I'm not even a big fan of the guy but he absolutely belongs in the discussion as one of the best ever

[MoneyLineDawg]

At 29 years of age Bird had more Rebounds, Assists and Steals per game than LeBron at 29. Pts scored was 25.8 to 27.1

Larry Legend is amazing so is Lebron

We get it

[Mac4Lyfe]

One thing that separates Jordan from all the rest is how he use to go up and over guys in traffic. Outside of Shaq and Wilt, I've never seen a guy that could just get in the paint and power over guys. Look at this video snippet. I've never seen Lebron do half of these dunks in the game. He usually has to be wide open. Very rarely does he go over guys (except on alley oops). Jordan would go over you and stuff the ball while you were guarding him. It was much more contact back in those days but he would just play through it.

[raiders72001]

Larry Legend is amazing so is Lebron

We get it

dummy- There are a lot more players that are better than LeBron. It's not that people are LeBron haters. It's just that most never watched guys prior to LeBron. We all know LeBron is great but not close to top 5 all time.

[UntilTheNDofTimE]

Lebron Fans: Why is it that Lebron never has talent around him? What does he need? Carmelo, Love, and Dirk? How much talent do you need to give this guy to win. If you Replaced Wade Bosh and James with Duncan Parker Ginobli and Leonard, you guys would probably be telling me that that lebron doesn't have enough players around him.

[The Giant]

Mac4Lyfe, who is in your avatar?

[MoneyLineDawg]

Lebron Fans: Why is it that Lebron never has talent around him? What does he need? Carmelo, Love, and Dirk? How much talent do you need to give this guy to win. If you Replaced Wade Bosh and James with Duncan Parker Ginobli and Leonard, you guys would probably be telling me that that lebron doesn't have enough players around him.

No one is saying that at all.....The way the Spurs played, nobody was beating them

You can replace Lebron with anyone in history and the result is the same

Again....Lebron played very well in the finals and his team got crushed.....What does that tell you? He has no heart for some people

[Mac4Lyfe]

Use to be my sister but I had to make her my wife...

Mac4Lyfe, who is in your avatar?

[The Giant]

[raiders72001]

No one is saying that at all.....The way the Spurs played, nobody was beating them

You can replace Lebron with anyone in history and the result is the same

Again....Lebron played very well in the finals and his team got crushed.....What does that tell you? He has no heart for some people

When he played well, the Heat were winning big. Then he decided to stop shooting.

[MoneyLineDawg]

dummy- There are a lot more players that are better than LeBron. It's not that people are LeBron haters. It's just that most never watched guys prior to LeBron. We all know LeBron is great but not close to top 5 all time.

Where would you rank Lebron all time.....Give me a rough estimate

[MoneyLineDawg]

When he played well, the Heat were winning big. Then he decided to stop shooting.

So if Lebron shot more they would have won the series? What are you even saying?

[bigtymer56]

One thing that separates Jordan from all the rest is how he use to go up and over guys in traffic. Outside of Shaq and Wilt, I've never seen a guy that could just get in the paint and power over guys. Look at this video snippet. I've never seen Lebron do half of these dunks in the game. He usually has to be wide open. Very rarely does he go over guys (except on alley oops). Jordan would go over you and stuff the ball while you were guarding him. It was much more contact back in those days but he would just play through it.

You should watch videos of him in the post....guy was amazing down there.

[raiders72001]

Mia was up 29-22 after the first quarter and then LeBron stopped playing.

[raiders72001]

So if Lebron shot more they would have won the series? What are you even saying?

Yes, they would have won if he shot more and stayed aggressive. He got passive.

[Eddy Munny]

Jordan was on teams that allowed him to flourish because he had guys around him that were stalwarts and did the little things right that win basketball games.... defense, rebounding, timely buckets etc. Jordan really wasn't asked to guard the opponent's best player because that assignment was usually given to Scottie Pippen, who was one of the best, most versatile defenders ever.

Lebron doesn't have that luxury. If a guy on the other team proves unstoppable, Lebron inevitably draws that as his primary defensive responsibility. Oh and by the way, could you go out there and clean up the glass and drop 30 while you're at it? It's a lot to ask of one guy. Basketball is a TEAM sport. No matter how you spin it, one guy cannot go out and defeat five. Did anybody bother to chip in for the Heat besides Lebron? Bosh is far too finesse and Wade was an absolute nightmare this series. They have zero presence in the paint.

The Heat are not a good team. If you remove James, this hodgepodge roster of has-beens probably doesn't make the playoffs. They were good enough to get two rings when Wade and Chalmers actually had a pulse, but this team was exposed by a more talented, deeper, better coached Spurs squad. Does anybody really think Jordan in James's place would have yielded a different result? Nonsense.... Jordan would have been just jacking up shots while facing double and triple teams. And Jordan's presence would have done nothing to shore up the shitty defense that plagued the Heat all series.

2014 Heat = 2007 Cavs

[raiders72001]

LeBron's talent is there. He just isn't wired like the greats.

[raiders72001]

Jordan was on teams that allowed him to flourish because he had guys around him that were stalwarts and did the little things right that win basketball games.... defense, rebounding, timely buckets etc. Jordan really wasn't asked to guard the opponent's best player because that assignment was usually given to Scottie Pippen, who was one of the best, most versatile defenders ever.

Lebron doesn't have that luxury. If a guy on the other team proves unstoppable, Lebron inevitably draws that as his primary defensive responsibility. Oh and by the way, could you go out there and clean up the glass and drop 30 while you're at it? It's a lot to ask of one guy. Basketball is a TEAM sport. No matter how you spin it, one guy cannot go out and defeat five. Did anybody bother to chip in for the Heat besides Lebron? Bosh is far too finesse and Wade was an absolute nightmare this series. They have zero presence in the paint.

The Heat are not a good team. If you remove James, this hodgepodge roster of has-beens probably doesn't make the playoffs. They were good enough to get two rings when Wade and Chalmers actually had a pulse, but this team was exposed by a more talented, deeper, better coached Spurs squad. Does anybody really think Jordan in James's place would have yielded a different result? Nonsense.... Jordan would have been just jacking up shots while facing double and triple teams. And Jordan's presence would have done nothing to shore up the shitty defense that plagued the Heat all series.

2014 Heat = 2007 Cavs

The best opponent given to Pippen is a lie that keeps getting repeated. It was fairly even and depended upon the opponent. If it was the last play, it also went to Jordan. In one year Pippen only played 44 games and they were 62-20.

[jsmithj88]

i dont know how any1 can blame lebron for them getting destroyed
hes the only one to show up
does he have a good team, sure he does, but NOBODY SHOWED UP

how exactly does wade get a pass?
hes been resting all season for moments like these and he did jack shit
if lebron had dropped 50 points and grabbed 20 rebs, they still would have lost

[MoneyLineDawg]

Jordan was on teams that allowed him to flourish because he had guys around him that were stalwarts and did the little things right that win basketball games.... defense, rebounding, timely buckets etc. Jordan really wasn't asked to guard the opponent's best player because that assignment was usually given to Scottie Pippen, who was one of the best, most versatile defenders ever.

Lebron doesn't have that luxury. If a guy on the other team proves unstoppable, Lebron inevitably draws that as his primary defensive responsibility. Oh and by the way, could you go out there and clean up the glass and drop 30 while you're at it? It's a lot to ask of one guy. Basketball is a TEAM sport. No matter how you spin it, one guy cannot go out and defeat five. Did anybody bother to chip in for the Heat besides Lebron? Bosh is far too finesse and Wade was an absolute nightmare this series. They have zero presence in the paint.

The Heat are not a good team. If you remove James, this hodgepodge roster of has-beens probably doesn't make the playoffs. They were good enough to get two rings when Wade and Chalmers actually had a pulse, but this team was exposed by a more talented, deeper, better coached Spurs squad. Does anybody really think Jordan in James's place would have yielded a different result? Nonsense.... Jordan would have been just jacking up shots while facing double and triple teams. And Jordan's presence would have done nothing to shore up the shitty defense that plagued the Heat all series.

2014 Heat = 2007 Cavs

Good post

It's not even an excuse at all....Lebron did a great job throughout the playoffs but the Spurs as a team were just that much better than the Heat

Lebron could have scored 50 a game and they still probably lose the series

[Seaweed]

Why do Heat fans say James has washed up players when Spurs are the older team??????????

[MoneyLineDawg]

i dont know how any1 can blame lebron for them getting destroyed
hes the only one to show up
does he have a good team, sure he does, but NOBODY SHOWED UP

how exactly does wade get a pass?
hes been resting all season for moments like these and he did jack shit

Because the Lebron haters don't want to admit that he had a bad team around him that couldn't stop a nosebleed on defense

Somehow they spin it as Lebron wasn't aggressive or some other garbage

[raiders72001]

LeBron isn't close to the defender as Jordan. Jordan was a defensive player of the year, lead the league in steals 3 years and is a better shot blocker.

[MoneyLineDawg]

Why do Heat fans say James has washed up players when Spurs are the older team??????????

Washed up does not = age

[Mac4Lyfe]

This is a horrible post. Wrong, wrong and more wrong on every point. I don't even know where to start on this baseless assertion but you are very wrong. There is not 1 thing truthful in your post. Please stop it.

Jordan was on teams that allowed him to flourish because he had guys around him that were stalwarts and did the little things right that win basketball games.... defense, rebounding, timely buckets etc. Jordan really wasn't asked to guard the opponent's best player because that assignment was usually given to Scottie Pippen, who was one of the best, most versatile defenders ever.

Lebron doesn't have that luxury. If a guy on the other team proves unstoppable, Lebron inevitably draws that as his primary defensive responsibility. Oh and by the way, could you go out there and clean up the glass and drop 30 while you're at it? It's a lot to ask of one guy. Basketball is a TEAM sport. No matter how you spin it, one guy cannot go out and defeat five. Did anybody bother to chip in for the Heat besides Lebron? Bosh is far too finesse and Wade was an absolute nightmare this series. They have zero presence in the paint.

The Heat are not a good team. If you remove James, this hodgepodge roster of has-beens probably doesn't make the playoffs. They were good enough to get two rings when Wade and Chalmers actually had a pulse, but this team was exposed by a more talented, deeper, better coached Spurs squad. Does anybody really think Jordan in James's place would have yielded a different result? Nonsense.... Jordan would have been just jacking up shots while facing double and triple teams. And Jordan's presence would have done nothing to shore up the shitty defense that plagued the Heat all series.

2014 Heat = 2007 Cavs

[raiders72001]

LeBron hand picked his team. When they win LeBron, gets the credit. If they lose, it's his teammates.

[Kermit]

Maybe if Lebron didn't run his mouth and make bold predictions, he wouldn't get so much shit.

It is no different than the wanna-be touts on here getting slapped around after their guaranteed plays lose.